This is personal i know but for me I need to eat tons of food for tren to work it's magic. I need tons of carbs and I can only get it in with junk food. Pizza or burgers and fries most night evenings. My body type just eats that up. Having said that I have had better success with lower test 300mg and higher tren e 800mg. Way less sides,People make it sound like it is lol.