results (w/pics) from first cycle

[DieYoungStrong]

Nice post pc. There was this old mr o who said " everybody wants to get big but nobody wants to lift no heavy ass weights"

Lift big, eat big, sleep big, fuck lots, and grow motherfucker grow!

Nobody got huge doing sets of 15 curls. Jay cutler does all volume work in his last video, but he used to squat 700 when he was younger and moving up.

Squat, bench, dead and press 5x5 and then do "bodybuilding" assistance work. I like to do the 5x5 on those lifts and after the last set strip the bar down and rep out rest pause style. Do everything with intensity 100%.

That's why I love the 70s guys. You know they loved to train.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Nice post pc. There was this old mr o who said " everybody wants to get big but nobody wants to lift no heavy ass weights"

Ronnie do it though.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwJr9ZduG6Y]Ronnie Coleman Everybody want to be a bodybuilder - YouTube[/ame]

Also, great progress on your cycle OP.

 

[attic]

thanks for all your feeback you guys. Im definately happy with my gains although ultimately i ended up with 12#, which is fine.
@pericles, i totally agree that another 20lbs would be perfect. you are also right about eating more, at 3200 cals i'm fking miserable, but i was growing!! I already have my cycle inbound and its a real bitch to smuggle it into my house without the wife seeing it so no EQ this time, more test with some dbol this time, 500/wk for 14 weeks with 30 days of DBol. man, im wishing i had some EQ though- anything to help with appetite.

Also can anyone guide me to a reliable source of HCG that isnt going to be 100 bucks after shipping, etc???

 

[Pericles]

thanks for all your feeback you guys. Im definately happy with my gains although ultimately i ended up with 12#, which is fine.
@pericles, i totally agree that another 20lbs would be perfect. you are also right about eating more, at 3200 cals i'm fking miserable, but i was growing!! I already have my cycle inbound and its a real bitch to smuggle it into my house without the wife seeing it so no EQ this time, more test with some dbol this time, 500/wk for 14 weeks with 30 days of DBol. man, im wishing i had some EQ though- anything to help with appetite.

Also can anyone guide me to a reliable source of HCG that isnt going to be 100 bucks after shipping, etc???

I have 3 sources not counting the script I have from my trt doc, and none of them have HCG. I have a guy right now who has been on test for over a year, and has even quit working out. He was referred to me by my business mentor, and I need to get him some HCG to transition to a proper pct (I have everything else he needs....but a year on, needs HCG). Normally I would ask for a deposit up front, but he has been ripped off another guy, and thus I do not want to ask him to front me money. My script is for 50K Iu's, I will be getting some for myself in a few weeks and then get him started. For now he is doing trt levels of test.

Also, and this is very important: You are NOT going to fool your wife. You need to tell her (at least tell her that your test is low, and you are on replacement) but in reality she will find out everything!"

You will then be, not only a steroid user, but a liar. Trust me, as I posted on the Stretch/ girl has MO issue for a full discussion as to why women are much better than men at "finding" things. My wife cleans my closet (we have 2 walk ins, one hers, one mine) and goes through EVERYTHING. She WILL find out bro. be honest.

Also, she is going to notice that you are getting much bigger/stronger, and now want to fuck 5 times a day. Even if you are already banging her everyday, she will notice. That is why it is so important to marry the right girl, and keep her in love w/ you. If she loves you, you will be fine. I have injected w/ my wife right next to me.

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

R U FUCKING KIDDING ME??? THIS JOKE IS BACK?? THIS GUY PERICLE THREATEND TO KILL SOMEONE ON HERE AND WAS BANNED AND NOW THIS DEATH THREATENER CRAZY GUY IS BACK ON HERE???!!

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON??? WOW I DIDNT KNOW YOU CAN JUST SAY UR GUNNA KILL PEOPLE, THREATEN THEM AND THEN STILL BE PART OF THIS FORUM...WOW I AM VERY UNIMPRESSED

Hey buddy, you are looking good. I have no problem eating more than 4K calories a day, in fact my last contest (pic in avatar) calories were between 3k and 4 k. In any event, I would like to see you eat more, 5k min and at least 260 grams of protein a day. Again, not nit picking, just want to help you take it too another level.

Include EQ in your next cycle to increase appetite, stack it w/ test 500 and 400 EQ. Also, are you doing protein shakes? If you can eat 3 squares and 3 protein powder bases meals. Make sure you get one immediately after training...some say I am crazy, but I usually have ice cream in my post recovery shake. Cut it out, and that is all I change in my diet for cutting, I just do cardio 6 days a week (cut) instead of 3 times a week(bulk)

I may need to re-read your posts, but are you doing cardio? Cardio is important for an old guy like me for health reasons. However, for a young guy looking to put on size (like yourself, don't get me wrong, you have made some nice progress, but you need another 20 lbs of muscle) I recommend temporarily stopping cardio and just focusing on size and strength.

Finally, do a power-bodybuilding routine. That means heavy sets of 5 reps on basic exercises like dead lifts, squats, and bench. Squats and deads will put on waaaay more muscle than bench. Never, ever do a light workout, If you are in the gym, you are busting your ass 100%. Look into Dorian Yates program. It is a modification of Mike Mentzers philosophy.

When do we grow, is it during training? No, training is the stimulus for growth, but actual growth occurs when one eats/rests/sleeps. Mentzers' philosophy was that after a complete warm up, we should go absolutely 100% on one exercise, that doing more sets cuts into your recovery. Yates modified Mentzers' approach to 2 all out sets, and that is how I train. Intensity is the key, and training really hard and 99% of most people in most gyms fall way short of the required intensity, do too many sets, and thus their bodies never change.

Gear will aid that process, but its most important use is to increase growth from high intensity workouts.

Running test 500, EQ 400, and some d-bol will put you close to a gram of gear a week, the absolute max for where you are right now and will only work 100% if you do Yates bsed training. There is absolutely no need for tren at this point.

 

[thrombus]

R U FUCKING KIDDING ME??? THIS JOKE IS BACK?? THIS GUY PERICLE THREATEND TO KILL SOMEONE ON HERE AND WAS BANNED AND NOW THIS DEATH THREATENER CRAZY GUY IS BACK ON HERE???!!

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON??? WOW I DIDNT KNOW YOU CAN JUST SAY UR GUNNA KILL PEOPLE, THREATEN THEM AND THEN STILL BE PART OF THIS FORUM...WOW I AM VERY UNIMPRESSED

Well, I think you have to agree that he offered some great advice.


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[skofan]

i gotta agree with pericles, don't lie to your wife, dont lie to your closest friends either, for the rest of the world, well if they don't ask, you don't need to tell them anything.
lying about being on roids doesn't just get you started on a vicious circle of lies towards your wife and friends, it also implies to your subconsciousness that there is something wrong with being on roids other than the legality. on top of that you risk ending up feeling like you have to live in secrecy, and as a consequence of that feeling alone in the world. feeling alone while slightly down on your mood is, i suspect the most direct route to post cycle depression.

 

[attic]

well, you guys ARE right about telling her or not. last time i said i was taking orals, she knows nothing about how/what to take what it does etc. its mainly the whole injection part that i think she would freak out about. we used to inject crankcokeheroinoxy....etc mixed with river water, soda, apple juice and occaisionally clean water back in the day. Now this was years ago, but to her the needle is not a tool. so maybe i'll tell her and maybe ill tell her its only orals again. I absolutely do not think that there is anything wrong with using them, its fucking stupid that they are illegal and the propaganda surrounding its use is idiotic.

 

[Pericles]

well, you guys ARE right about telling her or not. last time i said i was taking orals, she knows nothing about how/what to take what it does etc. its mainly the whole injection part that i think she would freak out about. we used to inject crankcokeheroinoxy....etc mixed with river water, soda, apple juice and occaisionally clean water back in the day. Now this was years ago, but to her the needle is not a tool. so maybe i'll tell her and maybe ill tell her its only orals again. I absolutely do not think that there is anything wrong with using them, its fucking stupid that they are illegal and the propaganda surrounding its use is idiotic.

I would recommend not giving her too much info (orals vs injectables etc.) Just be honest w/ her that you are on gear. Inject when she is not around. She will eventually run across you needles. Last "closet clean" my wife took all my needles and gear and put them all in one drawer.

Again, just give her the general/honest truth: "Sweetie, yes I am on a cycle." Explain to her, that gear can be used responsibly w/ minimal health risks, in fact your are probably much healthier than most people.. When she finds your needles, explain to her that injectables are actually much safer than orals.

I am assuming that your marriage is solid? Have you ever laid a hand on your wife? No need to answer (although in my case, never). A womans' first reaction will be over the media hype about rages. As I argued in another thread, always be a gentleman, never lose control of you emotions or actions. That will make her feel safe.

 

[Pericles]

R U FUCKING KIDDING ME??? THIS JOKE IS BACK?? THIS GUY PERICLE THREATEND TO KILL SOMEONE ON HERE AND WAS BANNED AND NOW THIS DEATH THREATENER CRAZY GUY IS BACK ON HERE???!!

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON??? WOW I DIDNT KNOW YOU CAN JUST SAY UR GUNNA KILL PEOPLE, THREATEN THEM AND THEN STILL BE PART OF THIS FORUM...WOW I AM VERY UNIMPRESSED

Easy now Flounder, I love you too. I never said I was going to kill anyone, just choke them a little bit. In fact I was very specific about letting to of the choke before anyone came close to death. W/ say, a deeply sunk rear naked, the person will lose consciousness, and then poop their pants. As soon as you smell poop, let go of the choke. You would have to choke them for at least 5 more seconds to kill them.

BTW, I see that you are still yelling, all in caps. Still peddling recs too, yes? The point is that you are much more likely to get someone killed.

 

[Pericles]

Ronnie do it though.

Ronnie Coleman Everybody want to be a bodybuilder - YouTube

Also, great progress on your cycle OP.

Love that clip, They say that Dorian was even stronger.

 

[attic]

yeah, ill definately let her know im cycling, no way to not do that! all the other stuff yo mentioned is exactly what i planned on telling her. definately have a solid marriage, and never smacked her, not even on cycle!

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

Easy now Flounder, I love you too. I never said I was going to kill anyone, just choke them a little bit. In fact I was very specific about letting to of the choke before anyone came close to death. W/ say, a deeply sunk rear naked, the person will lose consciousness, and then poop their pants. As soon as you smell poop, let go of the choke. You would have to choke them for at least 5 more seconds to kill them.

YOU HAVE PROVED YOURSELF TO BE UNHONEST, UNRELIABLE AND A PSYCHOPATHY OVER AND OVER AGAIN ..I THOUGH THEY BANNED YOU FOR THE DEATH THREATS YOU MADE, BUT I GUESS IF ANYONE WANTS TO LISTEN TO YOU THEY ARE JUST AS PATHETIC AS YOURSELF [)]

 

[Stretch]

YOU HAVE PROVED YOURSELF TO BE UNHONEST, UNRELIABLE AND A PSYCHOPATHY OVER AND OVER AGAIN ..I THOUGH THEY BANNED YOU FOR THE DEATH THREATS YOU MADE, BUT I GUESS IF ANYONE WANTS TO LISTEN TO YOU THEY ARE JUST AS PATHETIC AS YOURSELF [)]

I always make it a point not to hang out with unhonest, pyschopathy types.

 

[Stretch]

thanks for all your feeback you guys. Im definately happy with my gains although ultimately i ended up with 12#, which is fine.
@pericles, i totally agree that another 20lbs would be perfect. you are also right about eating more, at 3200 cals i'm fking miserable, but i was growing!! I already have my cycle inbound and its a real bitch to smuggle it into my house without the wife seeing it so no EQ this time, more test with some dbol this time, 500/wk for 14 weeks with 30 days of DBol. man, im wishing i had some EQ though- anything to help with appetite.

Also can anyone guide me to a reliable source of HCG that isnt going to be 100 bucks after shipping, etc???

Bro....I also have an issue putting down enough calories. I just don't enjoy food that much. I get full quick, I even looked into tricks of competitive eaters, and I will tell you this, killing two glasses of water at the end of every meal WILL stretch your stomach allowing you finest more within a few weeks.

The easier route? IV GHRP-6 you'll be ravenous in: 3-2-1...I don't care if you just finished thanksgiving dinner. Pick some up for your next cycle the shit works.

Could always go IM (there's no need to go IV, just a lil more effect...but you already know that don't you) as it will also stimulate appetite very well.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Bro....I also have an issue putting down enough calories. I just don't enjoy food that much. I get full quick, I even looked into tricks of competitive eaters, and I will tell you this, killing two glasses of water at the end of every meal WILL stretch your stomach allowing you finest more within a few weeks.

The easier route? IV GHRP-6 you'll be ravenous in: 3-2-1...I don't care if you just finished thanksgiving dinner. Pick some up for your next cycle the shit works.

Could always go IM (there's no need to go IV, just a lil more effect...but you already know that don't you) as it will also stimulate appetite very well.

I have read studies claiming the same regarding GHRP-6 as well as personal reports such as yours. So, why do people think GHRP-6 will help one lose weight!

 

[Stretch]

I have read studies claiming the same regarding GHRP-6 as well as personal reports such as yours. So, why do people think GHRP-6 will help one lose weight!

Individuals are usually remotely intelligent.

People are retarded.

I would imagine the reasons for this error would be tied into G-6's stimulation of the anterior pituitary, leading to increased GH secretion, which would hypothetically yield a reduction in BF%.

 

[Dr JIM]

PLF
That's one thing we AGREE on! While you may enjoy the edges of life for the pure challenge and/or entertainment, PC is unequivocally psychotic and doesn't know the difference.

Hey PLF have you ever heard the comparative medical analogy of neurotics vs psychotics?

The simplified version!

While Neurotics build houses in the sky, Psychotics MOVE IN!

 

[Dr JIM]

Stretch considering the volume of peptides on the market, which ones are worthwhile and/or cost effective (if any) from an anabolic perspective, IYE?

Jim

 

[Stretch]

Stretch considering the volume of peptides on the market, which ones are worthwhile and/or cost effective (if any) from an anabolic perspective, IYE?

Jim

IME? None of them by a direct mechanism. (GHRP-6 could indirectly, as I stated)

The anabolic effects of peptides are next to nil for anyone who is not a high level BB IMO (which I am not). If you have not already pushed your body to the limit physically, the minor (if any) benefit added from a peptide would most likely go unnoticed. I think a lot of people waste good money on peptides, when they should just buy more/better food.

The anabolic effects of steroids are insanely higher than peptides. IME. A lot of guys like IGF...I didn't.