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Oldschool said:
I didnt give you permission to pass on my pm did I? You need to realize that YOU are the reason the whole leg breaking bullshit is public you punk. It's absolutely hilarious that you continue to post in TGI'S thread when YOU are the reason its burnt to the fucking ground. I've said it many times this bullshit isnt Titaniums fault. It's his fucking ankle biters that fucked this all up for him. He cant defend himself because he is protecting all of you because you are his customers you idiot. Funny thing is I've never been a customer of his. I got nothing to win or lose. I did what I thought was right because of the circumstances,,,which you knew jack shit about. Go back to that thread you destroyed lil boy.
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Good thing I didn’t pass it on to anyone?

Not sure how you posting private emails back and forth makes me responsible for it, but whatever world you live in where Rats are the good guys, have at it

You’ll make a great bride to @balco
 
mp46 said:
Someone want to hire me, I’ve got too much free time lately.

There seems to be two different things happening here. TGI breaking legs and the narco claims involving Stanny and Millard. So you’ve got an unrelated leg breaking. Coupled with an attack on the TGI thread that BB69 couldn’t say why; only that he’ll dox people, he’s in with the meso mafia, there’s going to be a reset but nothing else. The SP emails come to light and TGI figures they’re related and Millard has to know what’s going on and therefore at least aware if not asking for profits and that’s why BB69 was sent in. TGI then needs to make an exit.


I already addressed part of the leg breaking, but let’s put it all here. it was a foolish thing to say and without details it’s hard to know what actually happened. If someone just said it in response to finding out a disgruntled, banned member was trying to send LE on you, you’d be pissed too and probably say the same thing. Now did TGI actually go out of his way and get on the dark web to hire a hit man? I doubt it. He’d have to know where the guy lives, assuming any packs he may have sent were the guys actual address and he’d have to be able to ID the guy which again who uses their real name on a pack?


Obviously someone else had to be involved because there’s no way a disgruntled banned member is giving out any info to the source he’s trying to extort. If I’m reading all these posts correctly in the 2 threads than that person was/is oldskool. It seems TGI and oldschool had side conversations and oldschool found out about the extortion threats (maybe they were posted publicly in the thread, I don’t remember) and reached out to Morefyah to gather info and go back to TGI, all of which he could have done without TGI knowing. All oldschool needs to know is who is trying to extort someone.


So in order for this to be looked at as anything other than “I’m pissed some guys trying to send LE after me, wish I could break his legs” there has to be opportunity, TGI isn’t sending a hitman to a random address to bust the kneecap of the first person to open the door, there was someone involved in trying to Dox morefyah and it seems that person was oldschool. Again, and again, and let me say it again, without seeing the communications there’s no way to know how much thought went into it from either TGI or Oldschool. Unless oldschool was working to dox morefyah at the behest of TGI then this really is going nowhere, it looks like it was just a stupid move for TGI to be mentioning his frustrations.


Moving on


For the sp/Millard/ryno drug ring. Somehow someone got access to emails from ryno, whether he was arrested or simply hacked is irrelevant at this juncture, the point is ??Kai?? Got ahold of them and rumors started spreading. Looking at the emails it’s still fuzzy, but just like TGI breaking legs we don’t know exactly what was said outside of those communications or if those are all of them.


What we do know is the two of them talked about buying and selling narcotics, SP mentioned getting narcotic raws. Whether the two of them conspired to actually do it is anyone’s guess. But it’s clear Stanny didn’t shut the conversation down like he probably should have knowing rynos history, but that’s what happens when “friends” make awkward comments, sometimes you just roll with it. Stanny certainly didn’t help the situation by making the raws comment.


Take what you will from that; that Ryno had a source for Mexican narcotics and Stanny had potential buyers so they conspired to start moving product. Or, it was a conversation between close people that got awkward and out of hand. Ryno brought up something trying to phish info and see if he could get Stanny to start buying narcotics from him (I’m positive this was his intent) but Stanny didn’t quite know how to shut the conversation down politely and didn’t want to be rash. That’s the end of the Stanny/ryno narcotics ring.


Where does TGI and Millard come it to the narco stuff? Right here with the help of our buddy BB69:


After discussion of starting the narcotics ring they execute on the plan, it was shown in the emails that ryno had fallen off of it again and a lot of people were owed a lot of money. What better way than to get in on the narcotics cash cow they both admitted existed. In order for it to work they needed a place to acquire more clients and that was from their already existing AAS operation where people are constantly asking to get them on the side. SP is already an established source with great customer service, though private it doesn’t take much to get with word from the right person. Hell, look at his intro, the guy literally skipped the “meso vetting” based on the word of veterans in here.


Around that time TGI begins getting settled into meso and building a large client base due to his customer service, prices and turn around. Then comes WM and TGI starts sending everything off for testing, acquiring even more clients. Then pristine disappears for a month and Stanny still being private leaves only TGI as the main domestic source. All of this isn’t helped by the fact that the TGI is the general bullshit thread where everyone goes to talk so it drives traffic and sales. This is bad because SP and Ryno are trying to bring in customers to eventually inquire about narco sales.


This upsets the whole operation and everyone getting a cut, to include Millard, it’s his forum how does he not know what’s going on when this stuff starts. Bigger Ben comes out of nowhere calling people shills and trying to rip the TGI thread apart, stemming from some sexual remarks? But in his “investigation” he finds that everyone is just a shill and being paid off. Bb69 threatens to Dox people, claims to be in cohorts with Millard and the whole team of Meso Overlords.


What makes the situation even worse is that more people jump in it and bash any supporter of TGI, but no one stopped him, instead Millard stepped in and laughed it off. You have a guy threatening to reveal identities, and claiming to be in charge and Millard dismisses it as sarcasm? If anyone else did that they’d be banned in a moment. And actually a person was banned for abusive language in a political thread against a “moderator.”


Sorry but Scally posts medical stuff in the medical section he moderates but you step foot and constantly post shit all over the political discourse section you’re not a moderator, you’re an average member stating an opinion. Meanwhile you have bigger Ben threats and claims to be in contact with Millard and running the show but he’s given a pass? Shit talking in a political thread full of shit is banned but threatening to dox and claiming to be involved with the meso mafia is written off as sarcasm?


There’s something bigger going on here, Ben is attacking the source and his credibility as well as individual members. Why? Everyone is losing out on business of AAS and the side business that brings because TGI is blowing up. Why else would someone just blow up on a source and members like that. Ben was asked multiple times to articulate what is actual problem with TGI and the members was and he never answered it, never. It wasn’t until this thread here where we find out it was supposed to be because of all the shit talking and clogging of a source thread. Really? In all those days of talk, bb69 or Brutus and anyone else leading the charge couldn’t just say that? Again, that wasn’t the actual reason and there’s more going on.


So after that failed attempt everyone regroups; meso mafia figuring out how to get rid of TGI. And TGI finding out about the emails starts connecting dots. SP went forward with the plans and the TGI thread is pulling business from SP people are losing money and boom all f a sudden his thread is attacked. Now TGI is trying to figure out how to get out, so he’ll start his own source board (where did that even come from, did someone pull that from their ass?) First of all a source starting a source board is weird, do you allow other sources and let your profits get cut or charge rent to make up for it? That’s a lot of planning, not impossible but a lot of planning.


So you’ve got an unrelated leg breaking. Coupled with an attack on the TGI thread that BB69 couldn’t say why, only that he’ll dox people, he’s in with the meso mafia, there’s going to be a reset but nothing else. The SP emails come to light and TGI figures they’re related and Millard has to know what’s going on and therefore at least aware if not asking for profits and that’s why BB69 was sent in. TGI then needs to make an exit.
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Everything here is just speculation with still no proof. Connecting a bunch of dots with wishful intent. Now, i don't know anything about the doxxing, bb69 stuff or anything that really doesn't relate to me, but this is what i know.

A Source comes out with claims against customer and takes a jab at another source (me). That would be the kai post. Taking in to consideration the emails that come later it divulges the relationship between me and ryno which i already talked about vaguely. In order for ryno to have burned kai and kai to have rynos emails there must have been a pretty good relationship there as well.

Kai was asked to back up his claims. I don't even know who kai is other tha. Ryno recommended him to me once for ancillaries which i never followed through on.

Crickets...


Another source (tgi) makes claims against me saying i was working to have him ousted and that i sell narcotics. Says he's leaving tue board and never heard from since. I read that email and within a hour or so of it being posted i pm tgi letting him know I'm not part of any conspiracy to have him ousted and that i think he's a valuable asset to the board and the heck with the haters and that he should stay. The members deserve and need him. Paraphrasing here.


Within hours i have 3 or 4 people pm'ing and email me about conversations they've had with tgi and none of which were friendly to me. A lot of bad mouthing about me. I'm thinking "what the heck did i do". I was also made aware that an exodus was planned and that there was a new board being opened up by the same source that started rumors about me. My own speculation was that, what better way to have people follow you than to create a bunch of negative drama on the existing board and make it look like the best thing to do would be for members to leave. I notice a few memebers suggesting that this new board is coming. The talk of a new board is not speculation. It's been verified.


Then the emails between me and ryno come out. It shows everything I've already stated and nothing new. Me indulging in a conversation about norcos that went nowhere. I've stated before hand that there have been people that have brought up buying and some selling norcos, but I never followed through on. Never planned to, just indulged the conversation. Actually, everything that the emails showed i alluded to, but didn't have the freedom to be too informative on.

That has been my extent of involvement. Like I've said before, how does this tie me to millard and bb69? I've never talked to either of those guys to the best of my knowledge. I mean, unless they have aliases and are emailing me without my knowledge. Shoot, for that matter i could have been talking to kai in those emails. How would i know. Evidently kai hacked rynos emails.


As far as me being a part of ousting tgi, tgi has been here for quite some time. Now all of a sudden, afyer being here well over a year i want him gone?


None of your speculation has any legs. I'm not even seeing how your connecting the dots between me and tgi and the good ole boy club. This is like making a bunch of accusations and taking a few facts that may allude to something and saying the bigger picture you painted must be true. I have a russian living down the street and there's a russian at my work. I must be colluding with the russians, lol.
 
I don’t think MP was stating any of it as fact. Rather how the dots connect if one were to do so. He isn’t accusing you.
StanfordPharma said:
Everything here is just speculation with still no proof. Connecting a bunch of dots with wishful intent. Now, i don't know anything about the doxxing, bb69 stuff or anything that really doesn't relate to me, but this is what i know.

A Source comes out with claims against customer and takes a jab at another source (me). That would be the kai post. Taking in to consideration the emails that come later it divulges the relationship between me and ryno which i already talked about vaguely. In order for ryno to have burned kai and kai to have rynos emails there must have been a pretty good relationship there as well.

Kai was asked to back up his claims. I don't even know who kai is other tha. Ryno recommended him to me once for ancillaries which i never followed through on.

Crickets...


Another source (tgi) makes claims against me saying i was working to have him ousted and that i sell narcotics. Says he's leaving tue board and never heard from since. I read that email and within a hour or so of it being posted i pm tgi letting him know I'm not part of any conspiracy to have him ousted and that i think he's a valuable asset to the board and the heck with the haters and that he should stay. The members deserve and need him. Paraphrasing here.


Within hours i have 3 or 4 people pm'ing and email me about conversations they've had with tgi and none of which were friendly to me. A lot of bad mouthing about me. I'm thinking "what the heck did i do". I was also made aware that an exodus was planned and that there was a new board being opened up by the same source that started rumors about me. My own speculation was that, what better way to have people follow you than to create a bunch of negative drama on the existing board and make it look like the best thing to do would be for members to leave. I notice a few memebers suggesting that this new board is coming. The talk of a new board is not speculation. It's been verified.


Then the emails between me and ryno come out. It shows everything I've already stated and nothing new. Me indulging in a conversation about norcos that went nowhere. I've stated before hand that there have been people that have brought up buying and some selling norcos, but I never followed through on. Never planned to, just indulged the conversation. Actually, everything that the emails showed i alluded to, but didn't have the freedom to be too informative on.

That has been my extent of involvement. Like I've said before, how does this tie me to millard and bb69? I've never talked to either of those guys to the best of my knowledge. I mean, unless they have aliases and are emailing me without my knowledge. Shoot, for that matter i could have been talking to kai in those emails. How would i know. Evidently kai hacked rynos emails.


As far as me being a part of ousting tgi, tgi has been here for quite some time. Now all of a sudden, afyer being here well over a year i want him gone?


None of your speculation has any legs. I'm not even seeing how your connecting the dots between me and tgi and the good ole boy club. This is like making a bunch of accusations and taking a few facts that may allude to something and saying the bigger picture you painted must be true. I have a russian living down the street and there's a russian at my work. I must be colluding with the russians, lol.
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Mac11wildcat said:
I don’t think MP was stating any of it as fact. Rather how the dots connect if one were to do so. He isn’t accusing you.
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That isn't how it reads. Connect the dots? Only if one were to connect it from a certain point of view. This is my issue with posts like that. It isn't fact and it isn't necessary. And, quite frankly, it displays bias. That whole diatribe was completely unnecessary and served no purpose but to inflame the issue.
 
Cityofgrit said:
Why again are you explaining someone else's post? You didn't post it and MP is a big boy that can speak for himself..and he does incessantly.
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Lol. Fuck it. Let this shit go on forever. I don’t give a fuck anymore. Information is where it needs to be for now. Keep posting back and forth until your fingers bleed.

That was just an effort to keep another round of speculative bullshit from popping up. Clearly not appreciated.
 
Mac11wildcat said:
Lol. Fuck it. Let this shit go on forever. I don’t give a fuck anymore. Information is where it needs to be for now. Keep posting back and forth until your fingers bleed.

That was just an effort to keep another round of speculative bullshit from popping up. Clearly not appreciated.
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You clearly do, you respond to every fucking thing someone posts. Literally, every damn thing. You inserted yourself right into the middle of this bullshit. Why the fuck would you do that? You are perpetuating it, while claiming you want it to die.

Here's the story:

A bunch of hearsay and misinterpreted shit lead to a bunch of fucking drama queens speculating, with absolutely no context to anything, about emails which no one should have had in the first place. Which then ballooned into an absurd conspiracy theory.

The end.
 
Just a quick thought

Everyone needs to take a step back and look at ALL OF THIS as a whole. Not just these labs, Meso as a whole and your involvement.

With this situation let's be realistic. How much was really going to come of this? Do we think people were actually going to get rounded up by LE? And how important is this all to your real life.

This is a forum, and a good one, but if it affects your lives, moods, and attitudes to the extent it seems, you may need to take a break and evaluate things.
 
StanfordPharma said:
Well, i apologize then, MP. LoL. Hard to tell what's what, i guess.
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Sorry, I didn’t state that outright, but I’m not accusing anyone of anything unless I expressly stayed it somewhere. Everything was connecting dots with a bunch extrapolating.

Big Ben however was completely out of line in the TGI thread. It was like that incoherent rambling scene from billy Madison over and over if you haven’t read it. In my opinion he single handily connected all these odd occurrences into a conspiracy that drug you down with it. And his accusations against Mac, that he’s still going on about are crazier than this here thread. The guys been here nearly a year dishing out free, solid advice on diet, training, and using less drugs but it’s somehow a front to make a few hundred dollars a month coaching?

I digress. If I see any hard evidence I’ll revisit, until then it’s all conjecture.
 
Cityofgrit said:
Why again are you explaining someone else's post? You didn't post it and MP is a big boy that can speak for himself..and he does incessantly.
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Sorry, I was called to he principles office earlier. He probably interjected because he understood that I wasn’t trying to state it as fact and wanted to quell the pitch fork brigade before they lit their torches, kind of like SP did. Again sorry you misunderstood my consolidation of “the theory” as factual accusations Stanny. Didn’t mean for you to type all that out.
 
mp46 said:
Taking this comment on a tangent, can I get a link to those talks? seriously. First, what two informed consenting adults do on their own time is their business.

Secondly "violating" a woman is purely subjective. I had an ex that thought a finger or tongue too close to her asshole when playing with her pussy was a violation while other women encourage you to eat their ass for breakfast

Third having been in, and volunteered time to counseling for things like that you'd be surprised what is accepted and actually works in rehabilitation. There are actual published, peer reviewed studies that look at how fantasy rape, more accurately called consensual non-consent helps empower some rape victims and help them cope with the trauma they experienced. Don't believe me? Look it up yourself googling NIH and "rape fantasy" or "CNC" will retrieve some basic results to start. And I'm not even shitting you, I'll screen shot these time stamped messages, I just text the new girl friend and asked what her darkest sexual fantasy is and her response was to be raped. Some people just have dark desires.

I've had countless therapy and general everyday conversations where people just have deeper and darker desires than others. Are they fucked up in the head? compared to other people you may say that, but there is nothing wrong with them some just have a morbid curiosity while others had events shape their desires.

All this to say, you shouldn't take everything you read, especially on a testosterone filled, anonymous forum so harsh. If him pissing on a woman is the worst violation of human rights ever you should see some of the things I've seen and hear friends do for fun and what actual sexual violations and crimes are. As far as pissing I brought that up in a random social media discussion and multiple women outright said they've tried it and/or actually enjoy it, so get over yourself.


Also, you never addressed my comments from last night/early morning. I'm genuinely curious if you'll address them, especially the comments concerning Mac since with the points I made from my view, you're theory is vaporware.
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Its wonderful how psychotherapy and couples counseling has evolved to fit the times, etc....but he was working himself into an orgasmic fit in a source thread. We have a board with probably 5 other subforums where that kind of x rated fictitious story telling would be better suited.

He has no experience and and if he tried to keep his posts even remotely relevant to the forum and thread he's posting in when he's in tgi's thread we wouldn't know he was even logged in. He has nothing to offer and is better suited to cross swords at reddit.

But his buddies are in the tgi thread so we're gonna hear nonsense from a kid who hasn't been off the tit long enough to stay relevant with posts on a steroid and bb'ing website
The posts he thinks are beating me up are not accurate. Guys are posting that they see my point or their glad I shared....and those are from some of the guys that have cursed me out previously.
Ol wet behind the ears claims i have no credibility and have nothing to offer, etc. He's not making sense and believes he's cutting his teeth with me..joust with balco or cdn and stop taking up space. Fucking idiot he is.

I don't like mac and he despises me. I don't have a problem with sources and vendors of a service. However, I don't like to be lied to about not turning clients etc and I don't need to have access to leaked emails to say so.
Its natural to do so and it isn't wrong in my eyes but don't bullshit me.
I'm not going to change the way I handle my game raping sources and if my way was against meso rules I''d be reprimanded.
If some feelings are hurt and I'm off base at times its collateral damage and if the source I'm probing happens to be yours its the way things have been done since the Underground opened and its the way I'm gonna do things.
Tgi made threats. During Uncle Z's resend I got under the crooks skin and he posted how he was putting his campaign on hold to wipe the planet of me and so on. Said he had associates in So Cal...Millard hit me up and we discussed the matter and asked my opinion on how I'd like to proceed. I gave him the sleeping with the doors unlocked spiel...lol...I need new material.
I get carried away with what I want to discuss. Any better with addressing the mac thing....and I'm not asking leo.
Iceman...for a guy who wants nothing but the facts when I open my mouth you sure do run the sewing circle. Those pm's suck.
When I first showed up you knew nothing about me and were too busy keeping tgi's thread where you needed it to be. You took info I alone gave you in my posts while sort of introducing myself and in one of your very first posts where you mentioned my name you ran with my doing time and declared me a snitch. No idea what you were talking about...i posted about a 10 month sentence and you ran with it as my ord case sentence and I had to be a snitch because I would have to have gotten more time etc.
You began your smear campaign and went about the business of burying my posts under heaps of shit posts about date rape etc....if a member wanted to see if a longtime member had any input about that source you were gonna do your best to keep it hidden.
Thats also why all those fucking posts about nothing dont belong there. Because you and mac and the other noobs to meso don't wanna let it happen...that's a problem. Its the coolest thread on meso because it talks about nothing. Guys bored at work keep it filled with shit because thats what the big shot noobs want. Fuck meso, Millard...and anyone but guys who like to post about nothing.
Mac and fury like to talk about how they were so critical on tgi and called him out keeping him honest. NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS BELIEVES THAT.
You were hard on the beaver, ward. Massage and happy ending in those heated exchanges. Like Trout taking BP with his 63yr old 3rd base coach serving up meatballs. You insult the intelligence of those who came before you...not me. I'll get my shots in.

Where did you come from iceman.... haven't been able to read any of your other posts on any other board...if you or any of your friends would point me in the right direction I would be most grateful.
I can't imagine this is your first rodeo and its just by coincidence you and tgi cross paths...do you believe in fate, Mallory...(My question mark is on the blink)
Some obscure rec drug b oard doesn't count. THE COMMUNITY is what I'm looking for.
I'd like to read some of your work and put to rest this nagging voice in my head that's saying something about you looking like a hired gun..help us out.
 
in case anyone cares to look and see to maybe get better acquainted with Kai...quickly my input. Kai hit the Community 5 to 10 yrs ago as an int ancillary source. On a few good boards. Was trusted. Had an issue with his remailer here in the states. Many were owed...to many and his reputation took a hit. Eventually repaid all owed.
After a year off he came back changing things up and became a domestic source. Said he wouldn't venture back into finished aas because of risk.
Changed his mind slowly incorporating gear with rehashed lab names...you know....once very good and now just a guy for the sake of name recognition calling ugl gear british dragon or whomever. I can't remember the brand he pushed.
I took issue and I was approached by GearGoddess about a guy pushing generic gh and a how the bunk gh was sold to her people who are owed thousands of $$. Kai and a source at UGBB met with this thief and bought his bullshit hookline and sinker. I waited for Kai to come out trying to make a killing with the generics. He kept things quiet and I let him be. Don't think Kai knows that...
Anyway..kai has an active thread over at muscleandscience...my friend and meso member @Skull is a moderator there. Think @Mighty-mouse is a mod as well.....fun fact...muscle&science is a board started up by a few surviving staff members who missed being indicted in ORD. Big A went into hiding somewhere in Eastern Europe as he was for certain wanted by our gov't.
The boards big A owned were considered hot back then as after SSB his boards were filled with feds and informants. No paranoia...real life.
The only "Reset" that goes down are the resets backed by the feds. Everyone is complacent and too fucking Green for the most part around here. You'll laugh it off and say you can't be bothered.
GEAR GRINDER in 2004.....ORD 2007 through 2008.....over due people. The feds have been picking sources off one at a time. They've been concentrating with gov't overseas and int sources...Poland bust...oh...the recurring OPERATION PANGEA....int sources taken down by our gov't every year or so. Focusing on overseas websites pushing schedule 2, 3 and 4 narcs.
India and pakistan were strictly bensos for a very long time.
Hydrocodone and Tramadol sources from the 2 nations taken down in Pangea and extradited to stand trial in fed court. This happened and is happening. Ignorance is still not an acceptable excuse.
 
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@biggerben69 thank you for typing out a somewhat coherent and paragraphed response. However I’m still utterly confused how Mac is/was shilling and turning all of his 8 clients on to TGI. Read his posts, he’s constantly preaching LESS PEDs in all of his posts, as a client he never even brought up PEDs with me. There was another of his clients (who I believe is prepping for a contest) posted in this thread that Mac preached LESS PEDs. I’ve spoken to other clients where they said the same thing, less PEDs. I’m confused where you’re getting the info that Mac was/is shilling and turning people to TGI when literally everything in public and everything ive seen in private says the exact opposite.

I would really like to know how you got to the conclusion Mac is shilling.
 
mp46 said:
@biggerben69 thank you for typing out a somewhat coherent and paragraphed response. However I’m still utterly confused how Mac is/was shilling and turning all of his 8 clients on to TGI. Read his posts, he’s constantly preaching LESS PEDs in all of his posts, as a client he never even brought up PEDs with me. There was another of his clients (who I believe is prepping for a contest) posted in this thread that Mac preached LESS PEDs. I’ve spoken to other clients where they said the same thing, less PEDs. I’m confused where you’re getting the info that Mac was/is shilling and turning people to TGI when literally everything in public and everything ive seen in private says the exact opposite.

I would really like to know how you got to the conclusion Mac is shilling.
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There is no factual basis for any of the claims he's made.

Dude tells himself stories to occupy his time.

Only other people I've known to pull that kind of shit out of their ass are straight up methheads after being up for x days.
 
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