Rumors Stanford, etc.

[Mac11wildcat]

My only stance has been that this needs to die. There will never be proof of the accusations against Stanford nor proof Ben had any good intentions or reason to be in the TGI thread.

I have zero beef with Stanford, you, or anybody that isn’t MoreFyah, BigBen, and Brutus.

And fuck @balco.

Edit: CDN can eat a dick too

 

[Cityofgrit]

My only stance has been that this needs to die. There will never be proof of the accusations against Stanford nor proof Ben had any good intentions or reason to be in the TGI thread.

I have zero beef with Stanford, you, or anybody that isn’t MoreFyah, BigBen, and Brutus.

And fuck @balco.

I think we can all agree on fuck @balco..guy is a slimeball

 

[Monstar]

I think we can all agree on fuck @balco..guy is a slimeball

Lol. So much hate for him. That said, he has balls not to change his username and stick it out. I'll give him that.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Lol. So much hate for him. That said, he has balls not to change his username and stick it out. I'll give him that.

Inb4 some new handle comes in and defends him

 

[iceman440]

So we all agree, the beginning, middle, end, and moral of this tall tale is

Fuck you @balco

At this point I think we can all agree to let this end and die out

 

[T&H]

Dang, I've been following this from the beginning but never posted. Man, I have no idea what is really going on. Hope it gets resolved, I want to believe Stanford is good for sure. All I've heard up to this point is great things.

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

But...... who brought my name into all of this. It was 2 sources. Neither have any proof of what was claimed. Can't have any proof of what was claimed because it just wasn't true. Why would 2 sources make false accusations against me? In my opinion, that is based of things I've seen behind the scenes, is there was a intentional effort made to disrupt the board. To make people take sides. Some will go this way, some will go that way and in seeing some posts i think i have to say this is not a single persons effort. It's a group of people that are in on it.


I also ask why, if i was out to get tgi, why would i defend him. Not only defend him, but pm him asking him to stay.

I'm not exactly sure who was bashing tgi, but are those same people in my thread saying I'm good 2 go? Nobodies in my thread, lol, let alone saying I'm good to go. And i don't really care if people post in my thread. I'm not hurting for business. Somoene mentioned "why did i open my doors"?. I've been quite honest about that. Bitcoin doubled and i spent everything i had on product. It had nothing to do with tgi. Matter of fact, i don't think i can even handle tgi's customers due to workload. I'm behind as it is and that's before tgi left.

So in short. I think tgi should stay. Stay for his customers. I'm not kissing his butt because i think what he did was dirty and i don't think he wants to stay and it has nothing to do with bb69, millard or me. To me it looks like this move was planned and probably for a while.

 

[Big Swole Papa Smurf]

But...... who brought my name into all of this. It was 2 sources. Neither have any proof of what was claimed. Can't have any proof of what was claimed because it just wasn't true. Why would 2 sources make false accusations against me? In my opinion, that is based of things I've seen behind the scenes, is there was a intentional effort made to disrupt the board. To make people take sides. Some will go this way, some will go that way and in seeing some posts i think i have to say this is not a single persons effort. It's a group of people that are in on it.


I also ask why, if i was out to get tgi, why would i defend him. Not only defend him, but pm him asking him to stay.

I'm not exactly sure who was bashing tgi, but are those same people in my thread saying I'm good 2 go? Nobodies in my thread, lol, let alone saying I'm good to go. And i don't really care if people post in my thread. I'm not hurting for business. Somoene mentioned "why did i open my doors"?. I've been quite honest about that. Bitcoin doubled and i spent everything i had on product. It had nothing to do with tgi. Matter of fact, i don't think i can even handle tgi's customers due to workload. I'm behind as it is and that's before tgi left.

So in short. I think tgi should stay. Stay for his customers. I'm not kissing his butt because i think what he did was dirty and i don't think he wants to stay and it has nothing to do with bb69, millard or me. To me it looks like this move was planned and probably for a while.

Bro ppl had an opinion and kept it to themselves and then one rat motherfucker decided to use that to act like he was your friend. And you know exactly who the rat motherfucker was, cause he is the one that told you.

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

Bro ppl had an opinion and kept it to themselves and then one rat motherfucker decided to use that to act like he was your friend. And you know exactly who the rat motherfucker was, cause he is the one that told you.

I had a few people tell me what was going on behind tue scenes so I'm not exactly sure which "one" person your talking about. 3 different people have told me that they have had lengthy convos with tgi and that tgi said a whole bunch of stuff about me. So, if anyone is upset that I'm airing my displeasures about tgi then deal with it. I wasn't the one that came in here lying about people and expecting folks to take sides.

 

[Dw725]

Sources come and go all the time. Some people are way too attached....

No comment on all the member drama. But a lot of what Ben says makes sense. It's just my opinion, but it's not a good look to live in a source thread. Lot of motherfuckers never even leave the underground.

 

[Iron Vett]

Lot of motherfuckers never even leave the underground.

 

[Monstar]

But...... who brought my name into all of this. It was 2 sources. Neither have any proof of what was claimed. Can't have any proof of what was claimed because it just wasn't true. Why would 2 sources make false accusations against me? In my opinion, that is based of things I've seen behind the scenes, is there was a intentional effort made to disrupt the board. To make people take sides. Some will go this way, some will go that way and in seeing some posts i think i have to say this is not a single persons effort. It's a group of people that are in on it.


I also ask why, if i was out to get tgi, why would i defend him. Not only defend him, but pm him asking him to stay.

I'm not exactly sure who was bashing tgi, but are those same people in my thread saying I'm good 2 go? Nobodies in my thread, lol, let alone saying I'm good to go. And i don't really care if people post in my thread. I'm not hurting for business. Somoene mentioned "why did i open my doors"?. I've been quite honest about that. Bitcoin doubled and i spent everything i had on product. It had nothing to do with tgi. Matter of fact, i don't think i can even handle tgi's customers due to workload. I'm behind as it is and that's before tgi left.

So in short. I think tgi should stay. Stay for his customers. I'm not kissing his butt because i think what he did was dirty and i don't think he wants to stay and it has nothing to do with bb69, millard or me. To me it looks like this move was planned and probably for a while.

For what it's worth I never heard your name once, any association, or any of the stuff related until TGI left and someone mentioned it in the thread. Don't even recall who. You made this thread shortly after.

Didn't say it before as I have no info so not worthwhile but I don't think a lot of people have any idea so maybe that is worth something to you or some consolation. Granted I'm not part of any gossip group obviously nor do I want to be so I could be the only one who is out of the loop too. I don't really post a lot.

As far as TGI having this planned, I'm sure he did. He's not dumb. After the other events he probably came to the conclusion that there may be a shady element here and started planning an alternative. The only conversation he/I had on the topic was exactly that a couple months ago. I hear the harm reduction thing all the time but where there's money, there's scum...that can be banked on, and a dealer is not the lowest form of scum I've seen by any means.

 

[Millard]

He threatened to identify members. That threat was brushed off by the powers that be as a joke which is his decision to make. We all got over it. But that’s a fact.

He actually said that MESO would personally identify members according to the allegedly incriminating post that people have repeatedly referred me to.

That is a fact. Your statement... not so much unless there is some other post or private that you have not brought to my attention.

 

[Millard]

Good intentions don’t usually accompany somebody hiding their reasoning and evidence for an accusation.

However, I completely agree with this statement.

 

[Millard]

I don't understand the motive and agenda behind starting the rumors. It doesn't sense to me. Reputational harm? Forum disruption? Drama?

Or maybe it's just as simple as baiting me to respond to the impossible 'proving a negative'?

 

[Cityofgrit]

I don't understand the motive and agenda behind starting the rumors. It doesn't sense to me. Reputational harm? Forum disruption? Drama?

Or maybe it's just as simple as baiting me to respond to the impossible 'proving a negative'?

Pure speculation on my part, but would another forum benefit from MESO disruption? Could this be retaliation from another forum? Would any of that make sense?

 

[TX_Hempknight]

Pure speculation on my part, but would another forum benefit from MESO disruption? Could this be retaliation from another forum? Would any of that make sense?

Hmmmm. Some food for thought there.

 

[Monstar]

He actually said that MESO would personally identify members according to the allegedly incriminating post that people have repeatedly referred me to.

That is a fact. Your statement... not so much unless there is some other post or private that you have not brought to my attention.

Going off memory which is hazy these days (and that certain individual's writing style is for shit and nearly incomprehensible), he was heavily insinuating, that he was working with you and Meso mods. May have even said it word for word. I recall something about coordinating cell phones etc.

Doesn't matter but not one person took those threats as sarcastic in any way. Real or unreal is debatable but he went out of his way and openly threatened people. For what reason...uh...he didn't like people talking in a source thread or people got too many likes? Really - this is kindergarten? Oh yeah, and only after the fact as he was asked numerous times and dodged them all responding to everything but that.

You know me under a different name starting from the early 2000s. I was on a number of forums but posted here with Johnsmith182, Animalmass etc (their names are public now I know, but mine isn't). When I started posting again I only joined here and to this day still the same. That particular incident made me heavily reconsider this and take a real step back. Nearly bailed. I'm not the only one. You've spent 20 years on this and while I've taken a long hiatus I don't recall anyone saying anything bad about you and generally very respectful (that's an accomplishment on an internet forum with all the bullshit). My 2 cents for free... Don't let that asshole and his behavior damage an asset you've built or your reputation. Sincere advice. Do with that what you will.

 

[Monstar]

Pure speculation on my part, but would another forum benefit from MESO disruption? Could this be retaliation from another forum? Would any of that make sense?

Interesting. Hadn't considered it. Public source board would. The only money here is ads and underground (I think) but underground doesn't pay you guys and does pay them. Meso is known for a good process and vetting as it's unbiased and people know what they are doing. Quick to call shit on an issue. Compromise meso sources and stir shit. Would keep people from using these seeing a huge shit show.

No idea if this is the case but it's as viable a theory as any and money is behind it so a lot more viable than most.

 

[Millard]

Pure speculation on my part, but would another forum benefit from MESO disruption? Could this be retaliation from another forum? Would any of that make sense?

I don't know. Yet.