temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

[foreveryoung]

also noting, many people around me in the last couple of weeks have come down with a head cold with sneezing and coughing, so far I have not

 

[foreveryoung]

been in a couple of different threads with some thoughts and experiments so thought I'd just post an update in this thread

basic protocol is staying the same

did an experiment with hydergine 4.5mg ed and cabergoline .5mg week recently on top of my current protocol, to see if those might have some synergy of good effects above bad effects

my typical response of waking up early yet with a feeling of dull head/tiredness happened yesterday..... thought about sex almost continually all day.... took 50mg Viagra (sure I didn't need it but always take it for confidence) and went to see a girl last night and had extremely good quality sex, the pleasure of the sensation was strong throughout the session similar to very pleasurable "edging" for probably half an hour and the orgasm was strong and good... went home after and got a strong erection an hour or so later and masturbated to completion. woke up this morning after 6 hours sleep with very strong morning wood.

all in all things are working well right now

sides I can think of.... my eyes feel a little puffy, probably the Viagra, and nose a little congested, brain doesn't feel bad this morning as I type this in bed on the laptop, maybe a little tired but not bad

 

[foreveryoung]

not out of bed yet this morning and libido is distractingly strong

 

[foreveryoung]

thought of something I should make a note of

seminal fluid volume is good, precum and ejaculation volume is surprisingly normal volume, even after multiple ejaculations in a day


also it seems I have been able to fight off and not get the cold that is going around here recently, so immune system seems to be keyed in well

 

[foreveryoung]

sitting in the mall today having lunch, a hottie in tight short shorts with long tanned legs happened to go to the food place right in front of my table where I was eating.... lo and behold, spontaneous erection began to fill and I was thinking back to many years ago when I was in school and not able to stand up for fear of the erection being seen.... it was a great feeling, this is a rare thing and to me the "holy grail" of knowing hormones are finding optimization, I was actually thinking "I better not stand up until this cools off a bit".... now if only this could become an every day thing

the girl was extremely hot, so that helps a lot... when I was a teenager and hormones were extremely optimized for libido it seemed that it wasn't even necessary for a girl to be all that hot, or even for a girl to be there at all to pop random boners, so there is still a long ways to go, but today this was a glimpse back to better days and a message of hope that perhaps more is still reachable

 

[tendency]

feel great this evening, had a workout and my strength is way up, funny how it takes a long while of having elevated testosterone before you notice the strength increase, really starting to kick in now

maybe I'm just noticing girls more, but it really seems like often girls linger close by me, like in grocery store aisles or anywhere, it really does feel like some type of a subtle invisible magnet..... I know for sure that my posture and confidence in the way I carry myself in public is way different and maybe that is what they pick up on, or maybe it is the invisible "scent" of a man with high testosterone, or both maybe, I'm sure I'm not imagining it

totally agree with you. when i was on a high dose TRT regimen noticed the same thing with girls. i think they subconsciously can tell when i man has high T. makes sense from a biological perspective since these men would likely be more virile and be able to protect the women and children better.

 

[foreveryoung]

people have been pm'ing me asking what my protocol is, so I put it in my signature and will update it as I tweak things

had an extremely strong orgasm very late last night with lots of ejaculate... libido cooler today, woke up with strong morning wood that progressed into about an hour of erection and wanting to have sex and look at girls, but this afternoon not so much as I am doing some work and not really any noticeable libido at the moment as I type this, hoping it bounces back this evening, a really hot girl is in town that I was thinking about seeing tonight if desire is strong again

 

[foreveryoung]

...spoke too soon, libido got strong and distracting late afternoon...

 

[cosmos]

sitting in the mall today having lunch, a hottie in tight short shorts with long tanned legs happened to go to the food place right in front of my table where I was eating.... lo and behold, spontaneous erection began to fill and I was thinking back to many years ago when I was in school and not able to stand up for fear of the erection being seen.... it was a great feeling, this is a rare thing and to me the "holy grail" of knowing hormones are finding optimization, I was actually thinking "I better not stand up until this cools off a bit".... now if only this could become an every day thing

the girl was extremely hot, so that helps a lot... when I was a teenager and hormones were extremely optimized for libido it seemed that it wasn't even necessary for a girl to be all that hot, or even for a girl to be there at all to pop random boners, so there is still a long ways to go, but today this was a glimpse back to better days and a message of hope that perhaps more is still reachable

Foreveryoung, at 12.5mg test daily minus the ester weight I'm guessing that your actual TT count is not overly high? Like max top end of normal range? Interesting because I'm wondering if the other 2 compounds cause pheromones to be emitted like test does & whether they are the same as those given off by test, or different pheromones completely. I have heard guys talk of how they feel like girl-magnets on tren cycles but it's hard to know what the actual cause of it is... chemical messages or just perceived increased confidence. Definitely not limited by nature anymore though... kinda freaky!

 

[foreveryoung]

yes, test doesn't need to be very high, in fact I think I might try an experiment of actually having so called "low test" like in the 200's, but with the rest of the androgenic "stack" and seeing if results might be better still

 

[foreveryoung]

I must say I feel good, mood is good, feel confidence in talking to people, libido is quite often right back to where it was when I was in my 20's, desire for life is great, work is going well, sleep requirements are good and able to function well on less than eight hours many days, strength and ability to work are good, body composition is great, orgasm quality and ejaculation volume are outstanding.

sides are very minimal, aerobic endurance may be down a bit, when working out I find myself pushing myself very hard and get out of breath easier but the overall attitude and ability to achieve are great. maybe one or two pimples total on me at any given time, very minimal. blood pressure very normal. hair loss seems to have levelled out and has not been progressing any more. prostate by urine flow is mostly good, occasional slow downs but nothing as bad as I've experienced time to time in the past on different regimens.

 

[cosmos]

FEY,

I assume you are not using hCG? (Majority of this board seems against it's use..)

I have heard anecdotally Tren can shut down testes function real hard so are you getting any atrophy there?

Are you using any DHEA/Preg to restore those pathways?

Cheers

 

[foreveryoung]

FEY,

I assume you are not using hCG? (Majority of this board seems against it's use..)

I have heard anecdotally Tren can shut down testes function real hard so are you getting any atrophy there?

Are you using any DHEA/Preg to restore those pathways?

Cheers

I hate HCG, I avoid it like the plague

testes are smaller than normal, for sure, but they don't seem as small as they have been at some times in the past, maybe high estrogen contributes to making testicles smaller? or maybe something in the low dose of either or synergy of both tren/masteron are preventing it somehow? with many of these compounds so similar yet different chemically, maybe it is not a far reach to the possibility that there are different effects in different tissues that might not be expected, I don't know, just reporting the fact that my testicles are holding at "midsize", and my ejaculation volumes have been great (which is another thing I suspect is effected by too much estrogen when it hasn't been good)

been years since I've ever touched dhea or preg, never had any good thoughts about those when I used them over a decade ago, never thought to bother with them again


so my opinion is too much testosterone especially with unchecked estrogen will shrink balls up way more than low dose tren, at least for me

 

[foreveryoung]

been injecting ED a lot recently, at an approx. dose of a half of my normal E2D protocol....... that feeling when your protocol is achieving such good effects that you don't even want to miss a day injecting

 

[foreveryoung]

experimented with holding off on the cabaser for a bit, and I think it showed me that there is an important synergy with the cabaser and the rest of the protocol, noticed a definite positive effect within a day after taking it again after the break. I don't think the pramipexole is quite as effective in it's synergy with this protocol

 

[kenseth17cd]

Do u take the masteron at 50mgs eod or 25 ed. Have u had any luck with lower doses of masteron?

 

[foreveryoung]

Do u take the masteron at 50mgs eod or 25 ed. Have u had any luck with lower doses of masteron?

lately I have been doing ed injections, the masteron dose I've been using probably around 25mg ed, + or - a bit

the key for me is to keep testosterone dose lower, and I have more luck then with a little higher masteron and tren dose, but when those creep up in dosage I do notice them, especially with body heat and lack of appetite, I'm pretty lean now, for sure

 

[foreveryoung]

had some great sex today, again I didn't last all that long though, felt way too turned on, maybe lasted 10 minutes of actual intercourse after some preliminary oral, the girl was super hot and I was really turned on, and I could have lasted longer if I had been a little more careful but one thrust too many and her pussy seemed to clench at just the right time and it put me over

maybe an effect of the tren, but my aerobic endurance is not that good right now, I was really breathing hard from the excitement and exertion, it felt so good though, but it took me probably 15 minutes before my breath went back to normal completely, and another thing I noticed was a bit of a muscle cramp in my thighs from the vigorous activity

as far as recovery, and maybe a bit helped by the Cialis and Viagra, I had a spontaneous rebound erection with feeling of libido not even an hour later and felt the urge to go again

 

[foreveryoung]

another thing I should mention, mentally I really am loving women, I am finding beauty in so many women, I can't get enough of them, the look of a woman's body goes right into my brain and I feel stirring of pleasure just seeing a good looking woman, it feels good to be alive and life is so great


on an emotional basis, I am feeling compassion and love for many women too, not just a lust thing (although that is strong), but I want good things for the women and want to see them feel happy and good about themselves too and feeling an emotional softness for them...... I have to be a little careful because I feel like I fall in "love" way too easily, and the last thing I want is any kind of long term relationship. I wonder if this has something to do hormonally too, like oxytocin being modified by the other hormones, or maybe a dopamine thing, interesting

 

[Tyler81]

another thing I should mention, mentally I really am loving women, I am finding beauty in so many women, I can't get enough of them, the look of a woman's body goes right into my brain and I feel stirring of pleasure just seeing a good looking woman, it feels good to be alive and life is so great

I know what you mean by this dude. It's funny but it's counterinuitive actually too. When women hear the word "testosterone" they think angry body builder stereotype. But really, it is a hormone that makes a man a man and that can translate into appreciating a woman's form and energy more. When I had a very good libido on Testim for about 6+ months i found myself just really loving women -- their energy, their bodies, their little quirks. I just found women sexy and beautiful and that made me have better conversations with them too.

I'm pretty frusterated with my situation because i was where you are at one point in my protocol but it's all gone to shit since the gels stopped absorbing for me. Unfortunately i can't do injects as I get depression from them.

I am planning to come off treatment but then i read a post like yours and i miss that feeling.

What's your entire protocol right now btw thnx