temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

[cosmos]

How does injecting everyday make sense? T peaks between 48-72 hours according to most studies i have read. So if you are injecting everyday you are continuously getting peaks ontop of peaks.

How much are you injecting?

It might make sense to inject e3d but everyday seems pointless.

You are probably sitting way off the scale interms of TT since you dont test your numbers.

Scar tissue has to come into consideration on a long enough time line

Everday you get a new 15-20mg whatever that as you said starts to create a new peak... so you have a new peak effect going on everyday... even if the previous adminstrations are still peaking or still acting within their halflife. Injecting everyday simply is more closely imitating what the body does naturally.

As per scar tissue, I could get at least 20 different sites to rotate just on delts, glute, quads... all with a tiny insulin pin. Once you have done the rotation, foam roll the hell out of the sites or get some deep tissue work to break up any scar tissue. If it becomes a problem which I highly doubt it ever would with tiny pins, start going sub-Q instead.

If people are having success with long esters injected less frequently, more power to them, but I have yet to find anything that feels as good and natural as injecting every day... or applying a transdermal everyday... and it kinda makes sense when you think about it.

I can't wait to see what delivery methods emerge in the years to come as HRT advances.

 

[foreveryoung]

How does injecting everyday make sense? T peaks between 48-72 hours according to most studies i have read. So if you are injecting everyday you are continuously getting peaks ontop of peaks.

How much are you injecting?

It might make sense to inject e3d but everyday seems pointless.

You are probably sitting way off the scale interms of TT since you dont test your numbers.

Scar tissue has to come into consideration on a long enough time line

low dose, 25mg per day

bottom line is I feel best when I inject every day

 

[foreveryoung]

added a small amount of tren back in the mix, it is doing good things

 

[dogheat]

I bet that masteron is whats giving you libido and a working noodle.

 

[foreveryoung]

I bet that masteron is whats giving you libido and a working noodle.

actually, dropped the masteron, I was starting to believe the opposite

 

[foreveryoung]

should elaborate a bit more, I still like masteron, but I started to wonder if the fact that it is so close to dht yet different, that it might be activating receptors in a slightly different way and interfering with some desirable effects that pure dht might also have, I have no idea really, but somebody had posted something about the differences of dht, proviron, and masteron, which got me thinking and led to this slight change in experimentation

there might be a perfect ratio that would achieve the same, there are so many variables

right now I have stopped the masteron and added proviron and tren instead, but keeping test cyp in the just under 200mg/wk range, this is working well at the moment, had a powerful orgasm with a girl yesterday, and erection quality was good, then had another ejaculation 8 hours later, so function is pretty good, could always be better though, and I am continually tweaking dosages and ratios to look for complete optimization, but maybe small changes in protocol here and there is actually a good thing and provides some hormonal and brain chemical dynamics

 

[foreveryoung]

decided yesterday that I want to take a break from women for a week

so will also take the opportunity to take a break from proviron for a week, dropping the proviron and the Cialis this week, will add the masteron back in and stick with the test cyp, masteron and tren protocol in low dose for this week

masturbated 3 times last night in an effort to try to see if this will help take my mind off of wanting to see any girls today, but so far at lunch I was seeing hotness in so many women as they went by libido is still a strong distraction.. not being on the proviron and Cialis will be a bit of a help though in the psychological confidence thing in not actually wanting to go through with hooking up with any girls though

will work out hard in the gym tonight

 

[foreveryoung]

libido still there but definitely not as strong, and erection not that easy to achieve/maintain

will stick to this for a week, work out hard at the gym, achieve lots at work, and avoid getting with any women

will switch it back up again starting next week, needed this bit of a break

 

[m_ob]

I think you've got it figured out. I'm starting to believe that the reason TRT is considered a game of constant tweaks and experimentation is mainly because most people do the whole 200 mg every two weeks/ 100 mg weekly/ 200 weekly/etc. No one ever messes with injections in an effort to mimic what the body wants. There is a reason T rises and falls. We need to keep our receptors sensitive, and I think you've got that figured out. Ideally, prop would be the drug of choice for maintaining optimum sensitivity, but not many want to stick themselves EOD

 

[foreveryoung]

m_ob I've done some recent experiments with test prop too and didn't really notice a lot of difference between daily injections of prop vs daily injections of cyp

test prop definitely is a more painful injection and I think I was getting a little bit of test flu here and there with it too though, so I am a leaning away from it



ended up masturbating twice last night, not as much due to overwhelming desire but more to see how function was and to continue with my week of avoiding getting with any women, orgasm was a little bit more difficult to achieve but felt good and for some reason ejaculate volume was lower, maybe testosterone getting a little too high in ratio to the others, maybe estrogen creeping up a little.... I feel really good though.... woke up with a really strong morning wood erection

noticing sleep is not quite as restful, feel the need for 8 hours and waking up a little bit tired, when the tren was a little higher it seemed I was often getting much less sleep but waking up early and ready to go, but a little higher tren starts to feel like the system is firing on all cylinders all the time, warm, alert, energetic, strong, mentally wanting action and challenge, etc.... now on the much smaller tren dose it has mellowed most of that down to where most of that is not that noticeable

 

[foreveryoung]

oh well, so much for my planned "week without any women"....

was feeling the urge this afternoon and actually got a spontaneous beginning of an erection, then next thing you know I was taking 100mg of Viagra and off to visit a girl. function was excellent, orgasm strong, played it pretty cool throughout but went super hard to finish and ended up with my heart beating 200 mph and breathing really hard but in a good satisfied kind of way

maybe the idea of changing things up off and on is going to work well too, been able to achieve good results with different protocols now day to day

I'm really a believer of the injecting every day thing, I must state again
also since it seems I have found a good synergy of things and no AI at all seems to work well in a number of variations (like I said before, perhaps getting my bodyfat % quite low may also be a factor in things working so well)

 

[foreveryoung]

I should say, things are working quite well, but there is still a lot of room for improvement that keeps me seeking and hoping for more solutions

some things that could improve to be more like when I was 18 years old:

erections generally require manual stimulation along with mental/visual stimulation, spontaneous erections are still pretty sparse and even erections for sex come a little slower where stimulation is necessary. the 18 year old me was popping boners many times a day just at the thought or sight of a cute woman

I'm still really only good for one shot during sex, with a need for a good refractory period of an hour at least I think, and two would generally do me in for a day unless it is one of those days when everything seems to come together in a perfect storm (when I was on cabaser that happened more often)... even then it was not like when I was 18 where I could be ready to go for a second shot five or ten minutes later when with a really hot girl (and sometimes not even needing her to be all that extremely hot)

overwhelming all-consuming desire could be better, libido is pretty good, but I could ignore it and do something else a lot of the time.... when I was 18 libido was often so strong it was nearly impossible to ignore a lot of the time

 

[tendency]

I should say, things are working quite well, but there is still a lot of room for improvement that keeps me seeking and hoping for more solutions

some things that could improve to be more like when I was 18 years old:

erections generally require manual stimulation along with mental/visual stimulation, spontaneous erections are still pretty sparse and even erections for sex come a little slower where stimulation is necessary. the 18 year old me was popping boners many times a day just at the thought or sight of a cute woman

I'm still really only good for one shot during sex, with a need for a good refractory period of an hour at least I think, and two would generally do me in for a day unless it is one of those days when everything seems to come together in a perfect storm (when I was on cabaser that happened more often)... even then it was not like when I was 18 where I could be ready to go for a second shot five or ten minutes later when with a really hot girl (and sometimes not even needing her to be all that extremely hot)

overwhelming all-consuming desire could be better, libido is pretty good, but I could ignore it and do something else a lot of the time.... when I was 18 libido was often so strong it was nearly impossible to ignore a lot of the time

lol .. jesus dude .. how old are you? im guessing well over 40. if that's the case i'd say you have EXCELLENT functioning and need to stop being so freaking obsessed with being 18 again.

there are so, so many components involved in the functioning of the body at age 18 .. many of which im sure we are not even aware of. do you really think that by tweaking a handful of hormones/steroids you can recapture this?

yeah, right.

 

[foreveryoung]

lol .. jesus dude .. how old are you? im guessing well over 40. if that's the case i'd say you have EXCELLENT functioning and need to stop being so freaking obsessed with being 18 again.

there are so, so many components involved in the functioning of the body at age 18 .. many of which im sure we are not even aware of. do you really think that by tweaking a handful of hormones/steroids you can recapture this?

yeah, right.

yeah I am well over 45 actually

I have seen the power of optimizing hormones and it does start to recapture and move one more toward being 18, but you are right that it may not be possible to completely 100% achieve what it was to be 18

 

[foreveryoung]

just had a shower and looking in the mirror, my body is looking insane, I don't even work out all that much 2 times a week super hard when I do, plus cardio from sex which seems to get my heart pumping a million beats a minute sometimes, and I eat super disciplined and not a lot, I'm so lean yet thin muscular, nearly 50 years old and looking at my body in the mirror I was thinking to myself that my body looks like a 20 year old elite Olympic swimmer

 

[foreveryoung]

going to take a break from the tren for a bit, skipped it yesterday and will instead stick with test cyp, masteron prop, and proviron for awhile and see how function is on this combination. I'm very lean now, even lower ab fat % is quite low.

will try 30mg cyp/ 50mg mast/75mg proviron ed for now and completely avoid prami. might also experiment with higher Viagra dosage as per the other thread and study cited

getting a little too attached to a girl for my liking and mental health, maybe dropping the tren will help? or maybe not, but a break won't hurt and will be interesting to see how my system is now primed to respond to the others alone now

 

[bax]

I agree with the poster above..Foreveryoung it sounds like your sex drive, etc is on par with someone at least 20 yrs younger. Idk what more you expect. Im 34 and if I could have sex even once a week and had any type of libido Id be thrilled. Of course my case is a little extreme but still just saying try to appreciate what you have

 

[foreveryoung]

I agree with the poster above..Foreveryoung it sounds like your sex drive, etc is on par with someone at least 20 yrs younger. Idk what more you expect. Im 34 and if I could have sex even once a week and had any type of libido Id be thrilled. Of course my case is a little extreme but still just saying try to appreciate what you have

yes, sexually and emotionally it feels a lot like I am in my 20's again, I am extremely attracted to girls in their 20's too, which my logical mind tells me can't lead to anything long term but can be fun, problem Is I am a softie inside and fall in love pretty easily, of course a 22 year old hot girl is going to be trouble because their minds change with the wind and the attention and competition for her attention from many guys makes it a tough situation

I actually am better than I've ever been, my body is better looking than ever in my life, six pack, striations, etc, I look better with my shirt off than all the 19 year old xbox playing guys in the neighborhood... have a full head of hair receded a bit at the front but not really noticeable (masteron...) and my face is still good, a little bit of wrinkles and collagen damage betray my age to where I can be believed for in my 30's but not able to pass for 25 anymore unfortunately, still wondering about HGH maybe helping with that.

I really crave the morning sex thing which you need a steady girlfriend for, libido is fine enough now that a couple times a day would be possible with a live in girl, but again, my logical mind tells me to stay far away from anything that serious as having a girl move in with me

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

yes, sexually and emotionally it feels a lot like I am in my 20's again, I am extremely attracted to girls in their 20's too, which my logical mind tells me can't lead to anything long term but can be fun, problem Is I am a softie inside and fall in love pretty easily, of course a 22 year old hot girl is going to be trouble because their minds change with the wind and the attention and competition for her attention from many guys makes it a tough situation

I actually am better than I've ever been, my body is better looking than ever in my life, six pack, striations, etc, I look better with my shirt off than all the 19 year old xbox playing guys in the neighborhood... have a full head of hair receded a bit at the front but not really noticeable (masteron...) and my face is still good, a little bit of wrinkles and collagen damage betray my age to where I can be believed for in my 30's but not able to pass for 25 anymore unfortunately, still wondering about HGH maybe helping with that.

I really crave the morning sex thing which you need a steady girlfriend for, libido is fine enough now that a couple times a day would be possible with a live in girl, but again, my logical mind tells me to stay far away from anything that serious as having a girl move in with me

You old fox, it sounds like you're slayin' em out there!!

About the GH, I'm 28 and this is definitely not the reason I'm taking it but I've been getting a lot of compliments about my skin from people that haven't seen me in a while and I've only been taking it for a few months.

 

[foreveryoung]

had good sex tonight, had taken 150mg of Viagra, maybe that is too much, I got going really fast because she was really wet to the point where I started to not feel enough through the condom so to get over the cum point I had to pump like a crazed jackrabbit because I thought I might lose the erection before cumming (I know, dumb thought to have in the middle of the fun but you can't control your brain sometimes), and my heart must have been beating 175 bpm, was really out of breath after and actually felt a little queasy for an hour after