temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

[foreveryoung]

just looked in the mirror and my body is insane right now, as ripped as an underwear model, deep cuts in my abs and paper thin obliques and pelvis you can see every nuance of the muscle and veins and structure anatomy

erection is still bouncing along strongly as I type this, maybe it is all timing, or maybe I needed a night's sleep with this pre-sex stack in my system to prime up my system, who knows

bottom line though is I need reliability when I need it, these occasional failures are brutal on the psychology and relationships become awkward, girls hate it and feel bad if a guy has any function issues when having sex with them, and it can ruin a relationship or at least change the passion level of things, so failure tends to feed on itself and can become more failure

 

[foreveryoung]

libido and erection right now, throughout the morning so far, maybe it was all just a bad timing thing, I wonder what to do next

 

[ChillBill]

libido and erection right now, throughout the morning so far, maybe it was all just a bad timing thing, I wonder what to do next

When In Doubt I always turn to P0rN :drugs:

I'm Not Kidding, If I think I might have a problem in the moment I will try to make sure theres a show on with hotties. or Porn if I can get away with it.

 

[Tyler81]

this morning did 15mg test acetate, 20mg masteron prop, 5 mg trestolone, 10mg test cyp, 25mg proviron, 10mg cialis, took 250mcg of ropinirole, injected 2mg of bremelanotide

will take another 25mg proviron and 100mg Viagra later, also took some of a herbal supplement that has tribulus and tongkat ali in it and a few other things

yeah this doesn't seem excessive at all

your goal of a hard dick and a good libido could be solved with JUST the viagara and a reasonable dose of testosterone. The rest is overkill.

 

[Tyler81]

bottom line though is I need reliability when I need it, these occasional failures are brutal on the psychology and relationships become awkward, girls hate it and feel bad if a guy has any function issues when having sex with them, and it can ruin a relationship or at least change the passion level of things, so failure tends to feed on itself and can become more failure

Actually girls are pretty forgiving. You just go down on them or tell them to suck your dick and help you out. Alot of sex is the foreplay and build up. You're not "supposed" to have a rock hard dick right away all the time. Sometimes she's gotta work you up and that's totally fine.

 

[Tyler81]

I've had an insane libido for a few months at a time on the gels and it got to the point where it was too distracting. I couldn't focus on important sh8t and i would get so horny that i couldnt sleep even after i jerked it. This was on wellbutrin + testim. That combo was just absolutely insane for libido.

Your goal of an 18yr old libido is not necessarily an optimal scenario. I've chased that goal but now i've just accepted the fact i'm over 30 and sex shouldnt be the prime focus of my life. On the testim/wellbutrin combo i'd get so horny i'd want to bang hookers. It wasn't healthy. A libido too strong will cause men to do stupid sh*t they probably shouldnt do.

 

[foreveryoung]

Actually girls are pretty forgiving. You just go down on them or tell them to suck your dick and help you out. Alot of sex is the foreplay and build up. You're not "supposed" to have a rock hard dick right away all the time. Sometimes she's gotta work you up and that's totally fine.

maybe, but honestly one way to get a girl very crazy about you is if she can reach into your pants at any random time, say when you are driving or whatever, and a rock hard dick is at the ready instantly and after a short while of oral you are blowing a big load, no prepping of Viagra and worrying about all that stuff

I need to get my hormones to that state

a little bit of test alone doesn't do it, and you yourself know that from experience, it might work for a little while for some reason, but then that passes and then it becomes a total mind game of trying to figure out what is going wrong


I agree that there might be too much of something in the mix that is throwing me off a bit now, I'm really unsure of the ropinirole, and Dopamine Agonists in general, they are very tricky, lots of side effects, I kind of feel like things took a little bit of a turn for the worse for me when I added the pramipexole to the mix and the problems persisted after I stopped and started it a few times trying to figure it out, it did seem to do good things at some points and some really lousy things at other points

on the ropinirole last night I almost felt a bit of a panic attack (which I never really experience) as I felt my erection going away and it got the best of me in a hurry, I could almost feel it in my face the look of stress must have been there, I was hoping she wouldn't look me in the face at that point, as sometimes you can't play it cool when your eyes and expression are a giveaway that you are torn up inside

 

[foreveryoung]

I do sometimes wonder if a "reset" of sorts might be in order though, like you mention, a couple of weeks or more of just a normal physiological dose of testosterone and no AI or other ancillaries or androgens

I am not sure what that might achieve, whether it would cause the brain chemistry and dopamine receptors to "re-sensitize" or not

I am feeling pretty certain that I would lose all libido if I did go to a low dose testosterone protocol for awhile, and my physique would probably change in a potentially depressing way in short order, so those are considerations

I am trying to find some caber again so I can go back to the exact protocol I was using when I was orgasming multiple times per day and see if that might reset things again to a better state. it seems like after having been on tren for a long time, any attempt to drop the tren from the mix ends up leading to a severe lull in libido, so I'm not sure which route to go.

having hormonal issues that affect sex drive can change a person and their personal and social life in a big way which can lead to logical feelings of depression and despair, just as vice versa if you have a hair trigger penis that is ready to perform 24/7 at the drop of a hat, you can be the most confident guy on earth when it comes to women

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

FEY, you said you just reviewed your log a few days ago.. Do you think at some point in the past you may have had everything down as close to perfect as it could get but then you started tinkering with your protocol again??

Just food for thought..

 

[foreveryoung]

FEY, you said you just reviewed your log a few days ago.. Do you think at some point in the past you may have had everything down as close to perfect as it could get but then you started tinkering with your protocol again??

Just food for thought..

well, I think I was doing really well when I was on the caber and hydergine with the low dose test and tren and mast, I ran out of caber and haven't had any since

in trying to substitute for the caber I have tried pramipexole and now ropinirole, and I am really starting to believe that for me the cabergoline was far superior within my protocol, and almost starting to believe that the pramipexole did bad things to me that are persisting, I don't know for sure though, but these are some thoughts about it

 

[foreveryoung]

well I need to come up with a plan for the short term future, I'm not overly happy with where I am at hormonally this last couple of weeks, one would think it wouldn't be too hard to get back to where I was not that long ago

short term aim: every day injections, try to keep total weekly test under 150mg, weekly masteron 200mg, daily proviron 25mg or 50mg, no DA, no AI

I am still not sure what to do with tren at the moment, it has been good to me in the past and it was present at the times that I was seeing multiple girls in a week and masturbating on top of that too, so I know it can work well within a perfect synergy of doses and timing, but I worry that the DA is going to be needed to make that work, and right now I am uncertain and a little scared of the pramipexole and ropinirole.... I might try to get by with high dose of vitamin B6, or I might drop the tren for a short trial, last time I dropped tren though my libido crashed. still undecided on this part of the mix

also unsure about the gnrh, theoretically it might be a help, and I did think I felt benefits in libido about 6 hours after injecting, but not sure what it might have to do with my current problems or not also, and it being a new thing it makes sense to take it out of the mix until things get better first with what I already know

will continue with the gh releasing peptides, as these can only do good things and I plan on staying on them for the long haul, hoping to reverse some aging and hopefully start to be able to pass for 29 years old again

 

[foreveryoung]

thinking of going for blood tests this week, to test thyroid and other blood counts

unfortunately I don't think I can talk the doctor into checking prolactin or e2, as it will seem too unusual to him as I am not about to fess up to my protocols as I don't want that recorded in the files (unless someone can think up a good excuse I could give him as to why I think I need my prolactin tested as a normal middle aged guy coming in for a checkup)

 

[foreveryoung]

anyone have any possible theories to throw into the discussion as to possible ways that high dosages of dht-like compounds like masteron and proviron might possibly hurt libido? just keeping open-minded here to all possibilities

 

[foreveryoung]

anyone have any possible theories to throw into the discussion as to possible ways that high dosages of dht-like compounds like masteron and proviron might possibly hurt libido? just keeping open-minded here to all possibilities

thinking it could interfere with estrogen binding too much somehow in situations where estrogen is already low? help me out if this is incorrect science

 

[foreveryoung]

ok starting the new protocol

did 20mg of test cyp, 30mg mast prop, and 50mg proviron

also continuing with the 3x daily 100mcg ipamorelin and 100mcg cjc1295

 

[foreveryoung]

feel a lot better today, I think the ropinirole was the fault of a lot of the bad feeling, felt depressed like I was on some kind of psych meds and it wasn't a good feeling

feel back to my optimistic self today

but libido not really there, will wait and see, might add the tren back in but I think I will give this a bit of time for the body to adjust first

 

[foreveryoung]

still feeling good into the evening, had a very strong workout, feel happy, no hint of depression that seemed to be creeping in often the last few weeks, even had a little bit of libido for a few minutes earlier

feeling optimistic

 

[foreveryoung]

about to go to sleep

tried masturbating but no erection and no desire

good night

 

[LW64]

Since your 'stadard of treatment' is to re-create the time in life when a young man is essentially a walking hard-on, it may do you well to remember that, even then, there were times when other activites besides anticipating sex, having sex, and recovering from sex were in posession of mind and body.

Even then it was not 24/7.

 

[foreveryoung]

woke up to strong morning wood

lots of night sweats for some reason, the sheets are all soaked