temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

[foreveryoung]

got a little carried away that day because the girl I was going to see is so important to me not to fail with, it makes me feel much happier and confident now that things went well with her (the sick feelings happened after I left her place luckily)

if I had failed with her and gotten ED I would have been crushed and the after effects psychologically would have rationally been pretty devastating, this is not a problem requiring psychiatry like keri mentions, this is logical and rational results and I don't think it is anyway not normal for a male to feel this way if ED causes a major disappointment at a bad time, it would be an abnormally apathetic man to not feel this way, that would be the guy that needs a psychiatrist lol

anyways, back in the groove again, feel great, just did a shot of test cyp/mast and tren, might do some hcg a little later, eating a super healthy lean breakfast of whole brown rice with broccoli and organic tomatoes and tuna, life is good!

 

[foreveryoung]

feeling very good and very healthy lately
libido getting better daily the last couple of days, libido is actually stronger than erection frequency at the moment

 

[Tyler81]

Foreveryoung. This is classic hamster wheel OCD behavior. I been there and its been painful to read your posts for many months.

Yeah it's definetly something. I mean a few months ago his sexual function was absolutely amazing and yet he just keeps adding stuff to his protocol. He's lost sight of the goal of a good libido and sexual function and now its just more and more and more. Superman syndrome. The funny thing is, before he got on TRT he talked about superman syndrome and he admitted he was prone to it. And yet when he gets on TRT initially he's doing high doses T ok fine then he adds proviron and masteron uhhh ok i guess then he adds viagara and then he adds tren and at this point it starting getting to WTF after that he starts adding dopamine agonists and then hcg and now other things.

I've pointed out he's getting out of hand but his response is "no i disagree" so it's like ok. It's your body and your life.

I actually like foreveryoung bc he's one of the dudes who didnt bash me when i was trying my pellet experiment or when i was having issues with injections. So i like the guy. I just think definetly this log has progressed and spiralled into something no longer even remotely close to hormone replacement.

 

[Tyler81]

The thing i dont get dude, is that you put way too much pressure on yourself when you see a girl. I mean it's her damn responsibility to suck your dick or turn you on so you get hard and fuck her. You need to make her work. You dont need to secretly pop a viagara or do a shot of masteron before you go see a girl. Your protocol should be giving you the foundational T that you need and then you go and trust that it works.

The other thing is, and i've said this before, when you are stressed, busy, tired, your libido is not as strong. Your libido is strong when you are relaxed maybe after you've had a few drinks and your mind shuts off. So to expect this consistent libido ALL THE TIME is not practical. No man even a young man has it.

I am really curious what T levels you are running right now since you dont ever do any blood tests. Aren't you curious? If you tested when you feel really good you would figure out your sweet spot.

Anyways dude im not lecturing at you but it doesnt really matter you are going down this path and you are an adult so it's all good. Just be careful man. You add one thing too many and you might catch a heart attack or have an errection that doesnt go away or totally tank your libido and not get it back.

The body always seeks homeostatis and if you run all this shit for too long something's gotta give.

 

[Tyler81]

if I had failed with her and gotten ED I would have been crushed and the after effects psychologically would have rationally been pretty devastating, this is not a problem requiring psychiatry like keri mentions, this is logical and rational results and I don't think it is anyway not normal for a male to feel this way if ED causes a major disappointment at a bad time, it would be an abnormally apathetic man to not feel this way, that would be the guy that needs a psychiatrist lol

You do have an issue. When you say "if i had failed with her" you are referring to if you cannot get an insta-boner and fuck like a racehorse pumping away at 10miles/hr. But like man, as i said, you just gotta relax. It's not a pass fail thing. You have a few drinks with the girl, you talk about shit, you kiss a bit, foreplay, your body will respond.

The viagara is your crutch i get it and that's fine. But try without it and then if you need it just say goto the bathroom and take it. Your biggest enemy here is yourself because you are stressing yourself out too much. Sex is supposed to fun not stressful. Just relax man. Seriously a few drinks will take the edge off. Try it.

 

[foreveryoung]

my actual testosterone level is probably not that out of range if at all, I average about 150mg of test cyp per week

as far as the comment about the girl having the responsibility to get you hard, that is only true to an extent, if you are looking to impress an extremely high quality young girl that is still hoping for that romance novel encounter (and getting it from time to time) you better be ready and hard in your pants before you even seduce and take her... I do put an extreme amount of pressure on myself by wanting to play in the elite leagues of super popular model type young women (luckily money with maturity is somewhat of a big equalizer, but the performance pressure is still very high)

I also do not drink alcohol or do any recreational drugs, so there is none of that mutual inebriation thing that sometimes helped a lot when I was younger

 

[tendency]

<snip> I do put an extreme amount of pressure on myself by wanting to play in the elite leagues of super popular model type young women (luckily money with maturity is somewhat of a big equalizer, but the performance pressure is still very high)

<snip>

so you're what, almost 50 as i recall? and going after mid 20s hotties? what, exactly, is your protocol for pulling in this type of girl?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

so you're what, almost 50 as i recall? and going after mid 20s hotties? what, exactly, is your protocol for pulling in this type of girl?

Yea, I'm interested in how you go about this FEY.. It seems you banging 20 year old hotties regularly, how do you do it?

 

[foreveryoung]

Yea, I'm interested in how you go about this FEY.. It seems you banging 20 year old hotties regularly, how do you do it?

I still wish I was even better because the failures still outnumber the successes and that always stings and gets me thinking about my shortcomings like age. But there is no miracle "how do you do it" guide... Women like a good looking face, a tall guy, that is in very good shape. Women like a charming personality, not a "game player", but someone that has charm and finds it easy to make friends and gain trust with all of both sexes. And you need to be in places or circles of peers where there are women you meet on casual terms on a constant basis. Having money and a new high priced vehicle is not going to hurt either. I still have a full head of hair and people guess me at late 30's often, and I stand tall with athletic posture and am extremely in shape, so I don't look like an average guy of this age group at all, which also helps. (the six pack abs would help too but they don't get seen until the deal is pretty much sealed already lol). I could be so much better if I had a bit more confidence, but I seem to do ok and get lucky with girls that seem intrigued by me for who knows whatever reason, there is no logic to this whole thing, if you ever try to figure out why some hottie falls for you and writes poems about you it leaves you scratching your head sometimes, and then the next hottie that you are absolutely crazy about wants nothing to do with you. Not a lot about women makes perfect sense.

 

[foreveryoung]

and it is not all glory, sadly there are lots of 20 something year old girls that are turned off by the idea of going out with any guy over 30 even, but there are lots out there that are not so concerned about age so much if something else about a guy catches their attention, and there are lots out there that actually prefer an older guy and what he brings to the table

 

[foreveryoung]

Yeah it's definetly something. I mean a few months ago his sexual function was absolutely amazing and yet he just keeps adding stuff to his protocol.....

actually Tyler that situation a few months ago you are talking about is what I am striving for again, and I was on cabergoline and hydergine then amongst the rest of my protocol, some supply problems with the caber threw a wrench into that and I struggled with a lot of ups and downs and downs after that

happy to say I am now very recently back on the cabergoline, and hydergine as of yesterday and will try to settle into a dialed in protocol again that addresses all sides of the equation, so far so good, feeling really good right now

 

[foreveryoung]

and after typing and saying all that about "getting" women, no two people experience things the same way either, I have a buddy that is not in shape at all probably 20 lbs overweight, and not all that good looking, but he has a gorgeous wife exactly half his age. She obviously was into what he had to offer, and they are actually probably the most successful happy couple I think I've ever seen. so there are no rules to the game of life, no how to guide, no sure thing, what works for one guy might not work at all for another guy, there are many intangibles, human interaction and behavior is too complicated to simplify sometimes, a mix of body language and words and gestures and timing and situation and a million other little factors are all at work all the time

 

[foreveryoung]

since the topic of money kind of got brought up in the conversation, I was thinking about this the other day of how success in my business seems to go hand in hand with being hormonally tuned up for high performance

I noticed this before, a decade ago when I was on a pretty strong protocol my business was doing great, then I took nearly a decade off and went natural, which was a low natural, and I really just wasted years of my life, business was very mediocre, drive was low

Now in the last year plus since getting back on a strong protocol, coincidentally (or not coincidentally) my business life is at an absolute peak of success, I am doing extremely well, the best I have experienced in my life. Just little things throughout every day all add up to make a difference, and it is no coincidence that there must be a link to the whole thing, having the drive and energy and will to succeed at business is the same drive and energy and will to succeed in the gym and the same to succeed with women, etc. etc. Being healthy and fine tuned for performance helps to steer your life toward success vs the other way that has one trudging along in mediocrity.

 

[keriheat]

Interesting thread to say the least!. I don't know it I'm going to tune in to your "OD" or you just had a 'Threesome" and left them begging for more!

 

[foreveryoung]

was thinking about my post talking about being tall and all that, and got me thinking about another friend that is actually short, but a total ladies man, so made me think that some of those attributes I mentioned that I think is helping me attract women, actually might be helping convince myself of that attraction which leads to using those things as a confidence builder which is actually more of an attractant to women than any physical attribute...... in other words, the fact I have a six pack doesn't really matter to women, but it convinces myself that I am superior which translates to more confidence which is then what eases attraction from women

just some rambling thoughts about the subject, I do know that my confidence level, although easily shattered by the moment when something goes wrong, is actually way way higher than it was a couple of years ago when I was natural and low test, I feel attractive physically which I'm sure changes a person's body language and attitude, compared to being unhappy with your physique, at least for me

 

[foreveryoung]

still rolling along, doing quite well

certain realization of how important the cabergoline/hydergine are to me, this combo makes all the difference. also keeping my testosterone dose from being too high is important, the others can go up or down a bit without too much consequence

I have been using the bremelanotide in fairly small dose on a day that I am going to have sex, just as some confidence back up, and it is working well too, for some reason don't really get the spontaneous out of control wood from it if the dose is small, but it seems to help with longevity of an erection, with the Viagra and the brem I feel like I can stay hard for an hour with stimulation easily if I want, keeping the dose down minimizes the nausea too

 

[foreveryoung]

things are going great, really settled in to a good groove and the fine tuned protocol seems to be dialed in well now and working consistently

 

[foreveryoung]

protocol is working very well, all the tweaking and experimenting and learning has paid off

 

[foreveryoung]

should mention what my current protocol is, for posterity

all injections are done SubQ

approx. 20mg test per day (various mixture of acetate, prop, cyp), 30 mg tren ace per day, 30 mg masteron per day, approx. 40iu hcg 3 times a week, 100mcg ipamorelin and cjc1295nodac 3 times a week, .25mg cabergoline e4d, 4.5mg hydergine daily, 10mg Cialis sporadically, 100mg Viagra before sex

 

[foreveryoung]

big confidence and ego builder today I want to record:

I was with a hot 20 something year old girl, and the moment I took my shirt off the compliments started rolling, she was genuinely impressed and didn't hesitate to tell me "I love your body" "You have an amazing body"..... after we had sex I flipped her over and proceeded to give her a strong handed massage, her back, and legs, and feet, she was so relaxed and then came the "I'm loving you" as I did her feet, then more compliments after "your body is great, you're so hot, you were so good"

I'm over double her age and she was super crazy about my looks, this rocks (guaranteed my body is way better than any of the 20 to 30 year old club going guys she probably might normally hang out with out there)

something about a really lean body, when your back fat is gone, when you can see vascularity around your pelvis, when your 6 pack has ridiculous deep lean cuts, I impress myself when I look in the mirror, even the way you move is so much sleeker and "sexy" when you are super lean yet muscular (and I am not at all bulky, more of a strong swimmers or male model size physique, which is best and never have anyone even mention steroids)

one bad thing, function is still a little funky at times, quite often hard to reach orgasm, and I wouldn't dare try to be with a girl without Viagra, but the big dose of Viagra gets the job done with confidence, think I'm pretty close to optimum right now

also the DA's do cause sleepiness at different times that is not a good thing

(I also noticed I forgot to put proviron in the above list, I occasionally take a little bit of proviron, not sure if it helps or is even necessary above the masteron)