temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

[foreveryoung]

Just relax and enjoy it. You make sex seem like a math equation lol if you cant get it up just pop a Viagra like you did the other time. And also go down on her and make her give you head. Also i think a bit of booze would be good for you as you seem to overthink things sometimes. It will shut off your brain. Not a lot but like a glass or two of wine will help you.

well I was on viagra too at first, that was kind of round two the next afternoon that I took another one expecting it not to work but it worked surprisingly well for a short window of time

did all the oral stuff too, there were points where I was limp that all the stimulation in the world wouldn't harden things, then other points where I was rock hard spontaneously

the biggest thing is my new girl is so sex crazed, I gave a great orgasm, and she wanted more sex an hour later, and that was a continual theme over the night and next day, and she wanted penis, I tried to give her a break with eating her out and she was begging me to fuck her more, saying "why are you teasing me... you know what I want..." lol..... this girl is so amazingly hot too and I'm completely in love, so the pressure is strong

I gave her an oral orgasm too, so my technique is good, but she still wants penis

 

[foreveryoung]

I need to up my performance, I upped my masteron and test dosages recently, and continuing with a tiny dose of letrozole but that scares me, I can't afford any screwups in libido at this important stage of our relationship

feel hot and sweaty all the time, she is used to that though as a side from tren, and the added dose of masteron and test is making it more so, I am very ripped, appetite not very strong at all I really eat like a bird, probably the tren, but who knows, my body looks great in the slim and muscular kind of olympic swimmer kind of way, six pack and all

have felt a strong libido increase since the upping of the masteron and test, but I wonder how long I can maintain higher doses, this is my life long trt so health and ability to maintain benefits for life are the big concerns

 

[Tyler81]

I recently found some seemingly legit sources for masteron and i almost bought some. But then i thought, well it's basically DHT and when i use injections + gels im getting testosterone + DHT so i dont think it's much different in that sense. I have a good sense of well being on injections with the transdermal gels i think im getting both T and DHT when i do that. But obviously my doc wont prescribe both lol

 

[alphastrength50]

constantly remind myself the ttle of this thread. original reason i started to lift is to be healthy

 

[foreveryoung]

woke up today with a lot of anxiety for some reason, nothing like I've felt recently, I wonder if the high masteron caused it? or just the stress of the girl coming to spend a day and the pressure to perform, libido seemed to lull a bit along with it, but I'm not panicking. changed from letrozole to aromasin today, going to stick with 3 or 6 mg daily dose, will see, did 6mg today and feel some good things already a few hours later

going to stick with the higher test and masteron protocol now with the aromasin and small tren and hcg dose.. something like 250mg test, 350mg masteron, 70mg tren per week in daily dosing, with daily proviron of 50mg and daily aromasin maybe 6mg, and very small hcg dose 30iu or so

daily low dose cialis
viagra for sex


now wondering if estrogen was causing the anxiety, because that is feeling better too now a fe hours after taking the aromasin on an empty stomach

 

[Tyler81]

I just reread this entire thread.

I've commented alot in it lol and most are "this isnt sustainable" and i've been pretty critical of you. I think the reason is, i look for longterm solutions and yours still TO ME seems like shortterm thinking.

I'm sort of done cautioning you because this is definetly a science experiment now on yourself to get this 18 yr old libido you seek.

I'm coming off treatment. So im going in the opposite direction as you now.

woke up today with a lot of anxiety for some reason, nothing like I've felt recently, I wonder if the high masteron caused it? or just the stress of the girl coming to spend a day and the pressure to perform, libido seemed to lull a bit along with it, but I'm not panicking. changed from letrozole to aromasin today, going to stick with 3 or 6 mg daily dose, will see, did 6mg today and feel some good things already a few hours later

going to stick with the higher test and masteron protocol now with the aromasin and small tren and hcg dose.. something like 250mg test, 350mg masteron, 70mg tren per week in daily dosing, with daily proviron of 50mg and daily aromasin maybe 6mg, and very small hcg dose 30iu or so

daily low dose cialis
viagra for sex


now wondering if estrogen was causing the anxiety, because that is feeling better too now a fe hours after taking the aromasin on an empty stomach

 

[foreveryoung]

well, the last day went great.... I was really anxious going in, wasn't sure my libido was there and worried about function, badly needed not to fail with this girl, she came over and we basically spent 16 hours in bed, with some sleep mixed in and tv watching, but a whole ton of sex, and my performance was pretty good, occasional erection loss after going for a while, but that was contrasted by other times when I was able to wear her out by going on and on and on with rock hard erection and not close to cumming.... she was in heaven with me

I feel a little queasy now that she went home and I can evaluate myself, my usual protocol is often a little extreme physically with the sweats and stuff, hard aerobic sex for long periods over and over in a day add to that, and on top of my protocol I added in a shot of pt141 earlier and throughout the day had bumped up my cialis dose a little and added to that 100mg of viagra and 100mg of acetadenafil at different times. I'm quite happy with my performance, I still need to optimize, some staying power at times could be better, but that is not always consistent because other times it felt like I could pump away for an hour or two without stopping or losing erection. I am getting close to an optimal protocol I think

feels really good psychologically, a super hot bodied awesome girl half my age totally into me sexually treating me like I'm the hot one, and all day in bed sessions as good or better than any time ever before in my life

 

[foreveryoung]

I just reread this entire thread.

I've commented alot in it lol and most are "this isnt sustainable" and i've been pretty critical of you. I think the reason is, i look for longterm solutions and yours still TO ME seems like shortterm thinking.

I'm sort of done cautioning you because this is definetly a science experiment now on yourself to get this 18 yr old libido you seek.

I'm coming off treatment. So im going in the opposite direction as you now.

I'm trying to optimize for long term, not short term, and I am learning and getting closer and closer to that goal. I want a "set it and forget it" protocol where I know it will be working at all times and not have to worry about it, this isn't easy to achieve overnight, hence my years of experimenting, but I am getting darn close to it now I am starting to feel.... there will be glitches as I still experiment to find out exactly where and which direction to go in optimizing, but I have come a long way

the concept of going off like I lived for a long time seems ridiculous to me, the years go by fast, I don't want to waste my chance at life by living as a veritable neuter, which is what natural is like for me. I feel like I am living now, I am alive, I am better than I ever was, this is what life is, and I love it

 

[foreveryoung]

I really dislike pt141 though, its one of those things I add in when I'm in a panic worrying myself about possible failure with an important girl, when it does work it can create the kind of erection that happens no matter what is going on in your mind in regards to stress or worry, so it is useful in saving disaster sometimes, but it makes you feel so shitty it takes away from the fun, and it isn't all that reliable, it might work or it might not, and you really have no idea when it will be working

 

[dper726]

I need to up my performance, I upped my masteron and test dosages recently, and continuing with a tiny dose of letrozole but that scares me, I can't afford any screwups in libido at this important stage of our relationship

feel hot and sweaty all the time, she is used to that though as a side from tren, and the added dose of masteron and test is making it more so, I am very ripped, appetite not very strong at all I really eat like a bird, probably the tren, but who knows, my body looks great in the slim and muscular kind of olympic swimmer kind of way, six pack and all

have felt a strong libido increase since the upping of the masteron and test, but I wonder how long I can maintain higher doses, this is my life long trt so health and ability to maintain benefits for life are the big concerns

If you are interested there is this over the counter product called vigra.... Yes not Viagra. It is better then Viagra and cialis in my opinion. Not only does it make your dick thicker because of the blood it circulates it also lets you achieve orgasm after orgasm consecutively.

This all comes from personal experience, just be careful buying online as lot of it is fake

 

[foreveryoung]

well im somehow getting through this somewhat successfully, still could optimize a bit more, sometimes lose erection after going for a few minutes, but other times can go for half an hour, so that is not consistent..... long marathon sessions in bed, just finished another where we were pretty much in bed for 16 hours, I only ejaculated twice, but we had probably 15 different sex sessions, and she for sure orgasmed at least twice, maybe more, I probably could have gotten another orgasm out of her if I hadn't gotten soft as she was getting close one time

I'm still wondering if maybe my aromasin dose isnt high enough which is causing the loss of erection after starting very hard, but I am hesitant to raise dose until I give it a chance to build up in the system with every day dosing

also I'd like to get a big more confident so I wouldn't have to go so crazy on the pde5 inhibitors, just for confidence I end up taking viagra 3 or 4 times in a day and that is on top of my cialis and pt141... pt141 is another thing id like to drop

but the young hottie is falling in love with me extremely, I can tell, it is amazing what having stamina and the ability to use it can do if you give a girl orgasms, that is the whole thing in getting love, have a girl in your bed for multiple sex sessions in a day where she gets off a few times and she is going to be back lots

one thing that is still a challenge is over all energy levels of a 23 year old compared to a 50 year old, after a day like this I need sleep, she can get 6 hours sleep and be ready to run around and go to the gym or anything, I might be a bit sleepy cuz of the caber and hydergine though, and maybe the tren, or who knows what else, but I do remember when I was a 20 year old I could drink all night long and be awake and ready to party again the next day like it was nothing, not sure how to get the energy levels of a 20 year old back again, and where they come from... I doubt it's growth hormone... does anyone have any ideas why we have so much energy as teenagers and not so much later? and even more extreme if you see children they have so much energy they can hardly stand it and need to be jumping and running...... we need to discover that energy hormonal source/picture


then again, part of the issue is the guy does a heck of a lot more work in conventional sex so basically a day in bed for a guy having a ton of sex is kind of like going to the gym to 10 aerobic classes in a day, no wonder I feel exhausted after

 

[Tyler81]

long marathon sessions in bed, just finished another where we were pretty much in bed for 16 hours, I only ejaculated twice, but we had probably 15 different sex sessions, and she for sure orgasmed at least twice, maybe more, I probably could have gotten another orgasm out of her if I hadn't gotten soft as she was getting close one time

then again, part of the issue is the guy does a heck of a lot more work in conventional sex so basically a day in bed for a guy having a ton of sex is kind of like going to the gym to 10 aerobic classes in a day, no wonder I feel exhausted after

Man, if she's only cumming twice in a 16 hours 15 session sex fest you are doing something wrong man. I can make my gf cum 3x in one 10 minute session without trying much lol

You know that sex for women is psychological right? It's not just about pump away at their vag like a sex robot.

I'm not saying you are fucking her wrong but you should easily be able to get her off with your fingers, mouth, and THEN fuck so she's had two orgasms in a row and super horny and then you flip her over and fuck her and she will have a bunch of rapid orgasms if she's really turned on. You add some teasing (foreplay) where you dont give her it to her and bring her to the brink a bunch of times, and whispering shit in her ear and spanking her ass/pulling her hair/(other manhandling) she will be wetter than niagara falls.

You shouldnt need to pump away for 16 hours to get her to cum twice is all im saying

 

[Tyler81]

Get to the point where you can easily give her few orgasms with just the foreplay and teasing. Then when you actually fuck she will cum 2-3 times from the fucking alone. So bam, you've given her five orgasms in ONE sex session. And maybe she'll be too spent to want to fuck so much ahaha

 

[foreveryoung]

hmm, in my experience every girl is different, and there are many that are really hard to get off no matter what you do

mine hates the foreplay, it actually annoys her and she just wants penis, but she seems pretty responsive and if I can last long enough I can give her an orgasm most of the time, protocol has to be optimized where i can stay hard for a good 10 to 15 minutes though to give her consistent penis in vagina orgasms... I gave her three this morning

I had a bit of a weird night, morning...... was getting strong erections but was unable to hold them for more than a minute or so once penetrated, was frustrating and she was getting pissed off, tried to make up for it with oral but that just got her more frustrated saying that was just a a tease.... then after a few hours erection became difficult to attain at all, and I was kind of embarrassed thinking the night was going to be a disaster, she fell asleep, then i went into emergency plan recovery and snuck around grabbing my hcg and pt141 vials and syringe and into the bathroomr where I nervously drew the liquids and injected myself quietly hoping she wouldn't wake up (my hrt and other stuff is all secret)... i did a pretty healthy dose of both, and then hid the vials and went back to bed with her, not sure if it would even help the situation...

..well not only did it help, it turned me into rock hard and unable to cum superhero a few hours later and continuing all morning, I gave her three really good orgasms and was on the way for another when she tapped out saying she had enough (happily though, she was in love with me totally after this)

so I think maybe i had tanked my e2 a bit too much before? not sure, but that was the premise i took when i did the big shot of hcg, thinking it could jumpstart my e2 into libido range, and that with the pt141 actually worked super well this time (it has not been so great at other times, unpredictable)

so took her home not long ago and she is wanting to come over again right away.... i feel pressure to be great every time as I really want this girl to be addicted to me, wish i could get my protocol super reliable where i didn't have these fails that need drastic attempts to fix

 

[foreveryoung]

funny thing, from shitty libido last night and thinking i crashed e2 and would be screwed for days, to solving things and being rock hard fucking machine and here it is the 15 hours later and libido is on fire, dick is spontaneously rock hard as i am typing this even

 

[Tyler81]

then i went into emergency plan recovery and snuck around grabbing my hcg and pt141 vials and syringe and into the bathroomr where I nervously drew the liquids and injected myself quietly hoping she wouldn't wake up (my hrt and other stuff is all secret)... i did a pretty healthy dose of both, and then hid the vials and went back to bed with her, not sure if it would even help the situation...

so took her home not long ago and she is wanting to come over again right away.... i feel pressure to be great every time as I really want this girl to be addicted to me, wish i could get my protocol super reliable where i didn't have these fails that need drastic attempts to fix

Lol well you've set pretty high expectations. Your girl seems really demanding like if i cant get it up i just say "sorry babe maybe later" or get her off in other ways and it's fine. lol. But i guess it's early in your relationship so you dont have as much "slack" early on. Plus you are an older guy so it's more pressure when you cant perform because the girl thinks "oh man..."

My hrt is secret too like ive told her im on some medical treatment but no specifics. There's too much shit in the news on steriods and hormones and stuff where i dont want to talk about it especially because mine is T only and doctor prescribed so i dont really want her to know about it.

Hcg tanks my libido hard. Interesting it works the opposite for you.

 

[foreveryoung]

Hcg dose has to be low, it makes a ton of estrogen, but with the rest of my hormones I'm taking which includes a lot of dht like stuff the synergy is there if I get dose and timing right

 

[foreveryoung]

so close to getting this all dialed in, the failures in between are devastating but when i get things right it is amazing

going to see my girl this evening, woke up totally horny with persistent erection. did my protocol shots 37mg test, 30mg mast, 5mg tren... took 5mg cialis and 25mg proviron and a tiny dose of aromasin maybe 3mg, did a shot of about 50iu hcg and a little bit of pt141

will do some viagra later and another proviron

sitting here pretty turned on and erection comes relatively easily and libido feels like the urge to cum, so all good so far, hoping that in about 6 hours I'm still feeling like this, I never feel totally confident because things can change hourly with hormones and erection ability... but hoping to give her a couple or three orgasms this evening

 

[foreveryoung]

well, as i always fear might happen, had total failure today, and it was really a bad time for it, she wanted to be fucked so badly and i just couldn't get it up, i was at her place too so no way of getting to my stash of pt141 or anything, she got really depressed about it too, doing the typical woman thing "you don't find me hot enough" .... ugghh i so hate this when it happens, no matter how understanding the woman is this kind of thing is a bad thing in a relationship

my only hope to get things back on track is a mega sex session as soon as possible, im going to be a little going crazy with stress about it inside, gonna go hard on the ancillaries and really hope not to fail, need to give her a rock hard penis that will last for hours

wish i knew what to do exactly protocol wise, the protocol works pretty well if things fall into place with timing, a bit of what went wrong today was i optimized for last night, then got to her place and we ended up doing a bunch of other stuff and i stayed the night there and she wanted sex badly today

can't fail next time or i think it will be the end of me in her eyes...

 

[Tyler81]

well, as i always fear might happen, had total failure today, and it was really a bad time for it, she wanted to be fucked so badly and i just couldn't get it up, i was at her place too so no way of getting to my stash of pt141 or anything, she got really depressed about it too, doing the typical woman thing "you don't find me hot enough" .... ugghh i so hate this when it happens, no matter how understanding the woman is this kind of thing is a bad thing in a rel

can't fail next time or i think it will be the end of me in her eyes...

That's freaking stressful man. I mean i feel ya. I just think this is alot of pressure lol

Women do think that tho "you dont find me hot enough" ... i usually just say "sorry babe i shouldnt have jerked off this morning" or ill say "sorry babe just under alot of stress with work and shit"

It shouldnt be the end of your fling if your girl likes YOU and not just your dick lol

Gluck man