Tren: What You Might Not Know

[Redrum42]

Can you give us an idea of insane growth at those doses?
Not being smart...i have always ran 400 to 700mg tren on top of test etc.
Got a blast coming up and i am trying to get a plan together.
My last one nov to feb added about 20 lbs which when cut back netted about 8. That was on 750 test 600 tren e with a 3 week 30 mg dbol kickstart.
Just wondering about your results.

Maybe not insane for someone running 700mg, but 25lb in 10 week, of which at least 20 was kept. Could've been more but I estimate on the low side cuz of fat loss making it hard to be exact.

 

[Throwback]

Maybe not insane for someone running 700mg, but 25lb in 10 week, of which at least 20 was kept. Could've been more but I estimate on the low side cuz of fat loss making it hard to be exact.

Now...that is insane unless it was a first cycle.
How did it make you feel aggression...appetite...any sides?
Thats such a small amount... but i think from my experience with tren... that if your diet training and sleep was dialed in it could be possible.
I think it may be worth trying anyway.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I have used it for many years. Im confident in saying more than anyone i have ever known, and imo it is the most powerful and versatile AAS I have ever used if it is stacked right, with no more problems than with other AAS. dbol and drol are way more toxic to me anyway.

A lot of guys seem to have a problem with it, but just as many don't. If someone begins to use tren and is psyched out before he even begings his cycle or he doesn't use the right dosage, chances are he may have a problem whether real or more likely imagined.

Hair loss and face gains on it?

 

[franchise24]

just be careful ...

monitor everything

Yes sir I do.

 

[Big_paul]

Hair loss and face gains on it?

If someone is prone to male pattern baldness and values his hair, steroids will accelerate hair loss.

I have friends who have used performance enhancing drugs as long as I have and still have a full head of hair. I hate those mother fuckers.

 

[Heavygear]

If someone is prone to male pattern baldness and values his hair, steroids will accelerate hair loss.

I have friends who have used performance enhancing drugs as long as I have and still have a full head of hair. I hate those mother fuckers.

Never has much issue with any AAS until I ran Tren, it really did a number on my hairline every single time I used it

 

[Big_paul]

Never has much issue with any AAS until I ran Tren, it really did a number on my hairline every single time I used it

It is highly androgenic, but if your DNA doesnt predispose you to mpb you will not have the same problem as say someone like me who is.

 

[Test_Subject]

If someone is prone to male pattern baldness and values his hair, steroids will accelerate hair loss.

I have friends who have used performance enhancing drugs as long as I have and still have a full head of hair. I hate those mother fuckers.

I'm pretty lucky that way. Not even masteron makes my hair fall out.

 

[johntt44]

I'm pretty lucky that way. Not even masteron makes my hair fall out.

Me either, I did tren and mast cycle
Still have John Stamos hair. I'm 48. To be honest, I didn't touch even trt til 45 and had a full head of hair so I figured I'd be alright.

 

[Redrum42]

Now...that is insane unless it was a first cycle.
How did it make you feel aggression...appetite...any sides?
Thats such a small amount... but i think from my experience with tren... that if your diet training and sleep was dialed in it could be possible.
I think it may be worth trying anyway.

Well it was only my 3rd real cycle, and only The 2nd with tren. So kinda. Also was only about 200lb at 5'10 maybe 13% Bf so definitely might not be the same someone already big.

On the current tren run already gaining like mad, I love knowing it's not actually water and glycogen bullshit

Tren jacks my metabolism up so crazy, like from 2750 maintenance, to 4500 to gain muscle but no fat. I get hypoglycemia very easily because the effect is so intense. However over 350mg/week the nausea makes it harder to eat, which sucks cuz then I can't eat but feel like dying of low blood sugar. I must be hypersensitive to this effect (Amazing insulin reaponse?) And I haven't heard it being as pronounced in others, though it will undoubtedly increase metabolism more than any other AAS

Insomnia and sweating, some anxiety. All very mild at 250-350 tren ace/week. 350 is where my personal line for side effects is. I recommend noobs start 25mg ace/day and work your way up. Less is more, especially lon term. I find side effects from tren are so bad just cuz high doses are common. If everyone did 2g of test they'd think it was harsh too. I've never done over 750mg/week test, but I would gain more on 200 tren a week than that, so imho side effcts about the same if you compare ratio of gains

 

[Throwback]

Well it was only my 3rd real cycle, and only The 2nd with tren. So kinda. Also was only about 200lb at 5'10 maybe 13% Bf so definitely might not be the same someone already big.

On the current tren run already gaining like mad, I love knowing it's not actually water and glycogen bullshit

Tren jacks my metabolism up so crazy, like from 2750 maintenance, to 4500 to gain muscle but no fat. I get hypoglycemia very easily because the effect is so intense. However over 350mg/week the nausea makes it harder to eat, which sucks cuz then I can't eat but feel like dying of low blood sugar. I must be hypersensitive to this effect (Amazing insulin reaponse?) And I haven't heard it being as pronounced in others, though it will undoubtedly increase metabolism more than any other AAS

Insomnia and sweating, some anxiety. All very mild at 250-350 tren ace/week. 350 is where my personal line for side effects is. I recommend noobs start 25mg ace/day and work your way up. Less is more, especially lon term. I find side effects from tren are so bad just cuz high doses are common. If everyone did 2g of test they'd think it was harsh too. I've never done over 750mg/week test, but I would gain more on 200 tren a week than that, so imho side effcts about the same if you compare ratio of gains

We were the same size...i gained 18 lbs my last tren test dbol blast but Im 54.
Tren does the same to me...i couldnt gain at 4000 cals and got stuck for a few weeks.when i kicked cals to 4500 to 4800ish the size just blew the fuck up.
I think Im gonna give it a try this next go around and see if just eating really clean vs everything i see will get me to 210 215.
I cut the bf off from my avi which was in jan at 206.
Im at 188 now at 13ish %.
Thanks for the info

 

[Rockclimber]

Tren A starts to kick in when in your opinion? I know Tren E is around 4 weeks so I assume Tren A is around 1.5 weeks or so before you begin to see the effects?

 

[Throwback]

Tren A starts to kick in when in your opinion? I know Tren E is around 4 weeks so I assume Tren A is around 1.5 weeks or so before you begin to see the effects?

Sometimes i can feel it within a few days if its really good.

 

[johntt44]

I can feel the tren ace about 2wks in.

 

[antipcman]

Se there you go, generalizing, to many people, myself included, MJ gives EXTREME anxiety, MJ is hardly a miracle cure it all drug that everyone seems to say it is.

Nope, not generalizing at all and I'm not calling it a miracle drug. I'm well aware of the 5% of people who cannot tolerate "MJ." However, you do realize that Marijuana can still be effective if the psychoactive component of it, THC, is removed, don't you? Am I on Tumblr right now or Meso? The fact is that MJ being used to mitigate anxiety and pain would also mitigate the use of very powerful drugs that have significantly worse long-term consequences. The fact that SSRIs and opioids are overprescribed is not something new. On a macro-level, prescribing MJ would have a very positive effect on 2 public health crises. Everything I've stated is quantifiable and evidence based. I also happen to be very close with a few surgeons; my opinion was partially shaped by their experiences.

I agree very much with this except the opiate based pain medication part- specifically yes up until maybe 2010 they were "pushers"; doctors and people in the medical field receiving major benefits to prescribing certain opiates (oxycontin especially) and often played down or outright lied about the danger of addiction. (I should know, years back my oxy Dr told me "3% or less of people prescribed oxy ever become addicted") anyway that is no longer the case. It has started to swing back the other direction, where people who really new opiates have a hard time getting them. All would be less complicated if marijuana were always presented as an option before opiates, like you said.


Also, running 25-35mg tren ace a day, never more, has resulted in insane growth and simultaneous fat loss. (Along with 250/week test) Imho people who run more (500+mg/week especially) are either extremely advanced and big, getting bunk, or trying to make up for bad diet and training. And 700mg/week cycles are a hell of a lot more common than big, ripped, pro bb'ers

Yeah that's what I meant by "sometimes they are to blame." They're referred to as "pill mills;" i.e. Health centers that push pills for profit instead of helping the patient. And I totally agree. They prescribe oxycontin for having a tooth removed. In fact, dentists are some of the worst at overprescribing pain drugs. And yeah, tren at 250 is more powerful than many other hormones at a gram.

 

[CornfedJ86]

The American Health Field has been infected with prescription drug abuse. Many people blame the doctors and sometimes they are to blame; e.g. SSRIs in too many "depressed" people, especially people in developmental stages. In other cases, doctors are forced to prescribe pain meds to people who probably do not need them. In some states if the doctor accuses the person of being a drug abuser and refuse opiates, that doctor can get into trouble. It's such a hypocrisy because the only legit argument against marijuana is that it is a gateway drug. That argument quickly loses credibility as Alcohol is a gateway drug with significantly more severe consequences and prescription opiates are a direct gateway to heroine addiction. Many of the circumstances where a patient is prescribed anxiety medicine as well as pain medicine could be remedied with marijuana. You are talking about 2 public health crises that could be fixed by substituting a less damaging drug.






I know of a guy who swears by 30mg/day of Tren Ace. Every time he runs it he gets massive and his strength gains are otherworldly. 40mg/day for him is just barely tolerable while anything more has him puking. I think he is just Tren-sensitive or "trensitive." Probably not a bad problem to have if his gains on so little equate to so much.

Weed isnt a cure all its usually people who are pot heads claiming this ive had issues with anxiety my whole lige and weed made it worse alot of people push weed as a magical wonder plant its still a drug mind that you can justify its use all you want with your own reasons.

 

[antipcman]

Just noticed this reply now. Nowhere did I say it was “cure-all.” I don’t smoke weed, drink, or do drugs. However, Weed>>>>>> SSRIs and Pain Meds every day of the week. 60,000 people per year die from opioids (illicit and prescription) and almost every mass shooter since we started recording mass shootings has been on SSRI’s. Google “negative feedback loop and neurotransmitters.” You know, the same way the negative feedback loop shuts down your HPTA if you take exogenous androgens?

 

[Oldschool]

@Throwback
You still feel the same about tren as you did a year ago?
Anybody feel different now?

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Thinking of actually giving it a shot (pun intended) on my next cycle. A low dose to start to see how I react to it.

Granted this is a year old, but you say that about every compound for each new cycle and wind up running Test by itself or with a little oral peppered in. Shut up Mindless.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

My recent first experience with Tren A was smooth as silk, except for the occasional cough despite best pinning practices. And the chronic manic desire to screw any woman on two legs, one leg, in a wheelchair, fat, skinny, beautiful or borderline ugly...strangely enough I found someone desirable in all of the. Thank goodness I’m an honest married man.

So I suppose the question becames, while I’m fucking wifey, and I actually imagining fucking all them nasty bitches in my mind, is it cheating? Is this virtually or fantasy slumming? Do I need help? LOl. If I’m not alone in this regard, do we all need help?

With that being said, can’t wait till I run it again!