Triple B Solutions

So despite what a mess the first 150ish pages of this thread were, I’ll give the man credit: Trip, your primo is the absolute smoothest thing I’ve ever pinned. It’s smoother than the test I get from my pharmacy or any other UGL gear I’ve used. So good work on that.

Now since I was kind to you in public you’ve got to repay the favor. I have a bunch of primo from another source and that particular genius/graduate chemist (lol) made it with EO and guaiacol, because evidently he was a total smooth brain. It’s like injecting battery acid. So 1. how much do I need to dilute it to make it usable, and 2. what carrier would work best? I have CSO on hand but if you recommend something else I’m all ears. Because otherwise that shit going in the trash.
 
So despite what a mess the first 150ish pages of this thread were, I’ll give the man credit: Trip, your primo is the absolute smoothest thing I’ve ever pinned. It’s smoother than the test I get from my pharmacy or any other UGL gear I’ve used. So good work on that.

Now since I was kind to you in public you’ve got to repay the favor. I have a bunch of primo from another source and that particular genius/graduate chemist (lol) made it with EO and guaiacol, because evidently he was a total smooth brain. It’s like injecting battery acid. So 1. how much do I need to dilute it to make it usable, and 2. what carrier would work best? I have CSO on hand but if you recommend something else I’m all ears. Because otherwise that shit going in the trash.
Throw the other primo away. Smooth primo from 200-225 is a very simple brew. Nothing taken away from Trip
 
Throw the other primo away. Smooth primo from 200-225 is a very simple brew. Nothing taken away from Trip
Sometimes simpler is better. I have no idea why some people use super solvents on products like Primo. You can have it hold with simply BB, BA, and MCT. I use several percentages less of BB in my Primo E 200 than most brewers use in Test E.

The key to getting traditional products to be smooth and have low pip is pretty simple - use the absolute minimal amount of solvents needed to get the product to suspend at room temperature. There are some compounds where higher BB has diminishing returns versus using a light amount of super solvents along with the BB.

Primo with Guac just sounds like punishment for no reason.

I would toss it. You could attempt to dilute it with MCT or GSO but I feel like that will be more trouble than its worth. It is anyones guess how much you would have to dilute it to get rid of the PIP. I'll sell you some Primo at a discount if you want to get rid of that battery acid.
 
Just curious...how bad was sterile abscess? Are all sterile abscesses hospital trips?
It was painful and unpleasant, no hospital trip necessary, went away eventually.

HOWEVER- around the same time I got folleculitis, which did land me in the hospital. Was using the same gear. Never had the issue before or after. I can’t prove the gear did that but I’ve seen other guys on here say they got foleculitis from dirty gear; so I threw away all my tgi after that.
 
Sometimes simpler is better. I have no idea why some people use super solvents on products like Primo. You can have it hold with simply BB, BA, and MCT. I use several percentages less of BB in my Primo E 200 than most brewers use in Test E.

The key to getting traditional products to be smooth and have low pip is pretty simple - use the absolute minimal amount of solvents needed to get the product to suspend at room temperature. There are some compounds where higher BB has diminishing returns versus using a light amount of super solvents along with the BB.

Primo with Guac just sounds like punishment for no reason.

I would toss it. You could attempt to dilute it with MCT or GSO but I feel like that will be more trouble than its worth. It is anyones guess how much you would have to dilute it to get rid of the PIP. I'll sell you some Primo at a discount if you want to get rid of that battery acid.
Hey @TripleBSolutions, been a minute. What is the eta on your raw testing?

It seems like you’re headed in a better direction, but we still need to get to the bottom of those fake raw tests that @51mesa posted.

I’m not going to blame you for that post, but it does need to be addressed once your @janoshik testing comes in.

You told us Jano was going to verify Syns raw tests... that never happened.

you’re moving in the right direction, so let’s get all the bullshit settled and behind us. I know guys on here are desperate for domestic UGL....
 
Hey @TripleBSolutions, been a minute. What is the eta on your raw testing?

It seems like you’re headed in a better direction, but we still need to get to the bottom of those fake raw tests that @51mesa posted.

I’m not going to blame you for that post, but it does need to be addressed once your @janoshik testing comes in.

You told us Jano was going to verify Syns raw tests... that never happened.

you’re moving in the right direction, so let’s get all the bullshit settled and behind us. I know guys on here are desperate for domestic UGL....
I feel this needs an announcement all on its own but in the interest of being very clear the professional partnership between me and Syn is no more. I am no longer required to purchase raws from Syn and I will not be doing so in the future.

After the Viagra incident I want testing done on all of my raws and products just as much as MESO does. I was confident in my raws being perfect and I paid a high premium for my raws. The results were eye opening for me and I don't want to be putting blind faith in the raws being pure like I did with batch #102.

The brewing of Batch #103 has begun and it is going to be a massive batch. I ran out of Primo so that is already on batch #103 but most products from batch #103 will be tested before #102 is out. Having every single product tested will mean batch #103 has none of the issues #102 did.

I'm excited to see the response once I have this completed. I am missing some raws like DHB to get the ball rolling on testing.
 
I feel this needs an announcement all on its own but in the interest of being very clear the professional partnership between me and Syn is no more. I am no longer required to purchase raws from Syn and I will not be doing so in the future.

After the Viagra incident I want testing done on all of my raws and products just as much as MESO does. I was confident in my raws being perfect and I paid a high premium for my raws. The results were eye opening for me and I don't want to be putting blind faith in the raws being pure like I did with batch #102.

The brewing of Batch #103 has begun and it is going to be a massive batch. I ran out of Primo so that is already on batch #103 but most products from batch #103 will be tested before #102 is out. Having every single product tested will mean batch #103 has none of the issues #102 did.

I'm excited to see the response once I have this completed. I am missing some raws like DHB to get the ball rolling on testing.
I want to make sure I am reading your post correctly- does this mean you have not sent in any raw samples because you are waiting on DHB?

Or you HAVE sent in raw samples, other than DHB?
 
I feel this needs an announcement all on its own but in the interest of being very clear the professional partnership between me and Syn is no more. I am no longer required to purchase raws from Syn and I will not be doing so in the future.

After the Viagra incident I want testing done on all of my raws and products just as much as MESO does. I was confident in my raws being perfect and I paid a high premium for my raws. The results were eye opening for me and I don't want to be putting blind faith in the raws being pure like I did with batch #102.

The brewing of Batch #103 has begun and it is going to be a massive batch. I ran out of Primo so that is already on batch #103 but most products from batch #103 will be tested before #102 is out. Having every single product tested will mean batch #103 has none of the issues #102 did.

I'm excited to see the response once I have this completed. I am missing some raws like DHB to get the ball rolling on testing.
Hell yeah trip looking forward to the new run and available compounds
 
I want to make sure I am reading your post correctly- does this mean you have not sent in any raw samples because you are waiting on DHB?

Or you HAVE sent in raw samples, other than DHB?

It means he’s gonna double-talk his way out of testing raws. He’s already selling untested Primo from the next batch. He really wants to send product samples in but he can’t until DHB raws come in and he can brew that up.

If he stalls long enough, he’ll end up with enough fanboi customers that he won’t have to do all this bullshit testing in the future.
 
I feel like I can't possibly be any more clear of my intentions at this point. I have said I would get testing, I have a time frame that I am WELL within, and I am waiting on more raws. You want testing on raws and you want testing on finished products. Would you like me to get air tested in place of the compounds I don't have? What about the finished oils that I haven't even finished brewing yet?
 
I feel like I can't possibly be any more clear of my intentions at this point. I have said I would get testing, I have a time frame that I am WELL within, and I am waiting on more raws. You want testing on raws and you want testing on finished products. Would you like me to get air tested in place of the compounds I don't have? What about the finished oils that I haven't even finished brewing yet?

So you didn’t brew a new batch of Primo and you’re not currently selling it now, before you tested the raws and before you test the product?

You seem to miss the point that a “batch” is all made at the same time. You can’t order 500 grams of Primo, use half of it to brew, send a product sample, and then when you run out, brew some more and call it all the same batch. That’s what it sounds like you’re doing though.
 
So you didn’t brew a new batch of Primo and you’re not currently selling it now, before you tested the raws and before you test the product?

You seem to miss the point that a “batch” is all made at the same time. You can’t order 500 grams of Primo, use half of it to brew, send a product sample, and then when you run out, brew some more and call it all the same batch. That’s what it sounds like you’re doing though.
I brewed a very large batch and saved a couple grams of the powder for testing.
 
I brewed a very large batch and saved a couple grams of the powder for testing.

This is awesome. You KNOW testing the raws helps determine your brewing recipe but you “brewed a very large batch” already and saved a little of the raw to test afterwards.

How’s that prevent problems? You learned a lesson from the viagra?

Being a “tested source” means you’re consistently testing. Right now you’re picking and choosing. You were moving in the right direction and now you’re sliding back into your old ways.

I’ve been saying it for a while. You are only doing well here because of lack of competition. As soon as another source comes and does it the right way, your customers aren’t going to be so loyal. Good businesses strive to be the best at what they do, not merely “good enough”.
 
This is awesome. You KNOW testing the raws helps determine your brewing recipe but you “brewed a very large batch” already and saved a little of the raw to test afterwards.

How’s that prevent problems? You learned a lesson from the viagra?

Being a “tested source” means you’re consistently testing. Right now you’re picking and choosing. You were moving in the right direction and now you’re sliding back into your old ways.

I’ve been saying it for a while. You are only doing well here because of lack of competition. As soon as another source comes and does it the right way, your customers aren’t going to be so loyal. Good businesses strive to be the best at what they do, not merely “good enough”.
That's the whole point of what I am doing right now. Everything in batch 103 is getting tested. I will be testing everything at one time.
 
That's the whole point of what I am doing right now. Everything in batch 103 is getting tested. I will be testing everything at one time.

This is your double-talk that leads us to call you “deceptive”.

Be more clear:

Are you testing all raws?

Are you testing all products?

Are you selling products before you receive testing results?
 
This is your double-talk that leads us to call you “deceptive”.

Be more clear:

Are you testing all raws?

Are you testing all products?

Are you selling products before you receive testing results?
Yes I plan to test all my products.

Yes I plan to test all of my raws.

I am currently selling untested products. I have 18 or so tests done. That is not enough to cover my entire lineup. Yes, I will be selling batch #103 of primo without testing for a brief period of time.
 
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