UK GENTECH LABS

[xupc]

Really? Interesting bc unless he has a DEA number or operates a DEA certified lab his access to a Tren-A standard will be VERY LIMITED at best fella.

Shit just inquire about the facility where the standards were obtained. No please don't post a name.

Then ask him why no calibration curve was printed for comparison or why the procedure used was not mentioned.

Finally also ask him how he obtained results using a device with an absorbance range of 340 to 910nm on a substance, such as Tren-A, with an optimal absorbance of 240nm!

You just can't slam all that crap into a Spec and obtain results, the constituents MUST first be isolated into individual compounds and then run SEPARATELY.

If this is not done the absorbance measurement will be that of all the constituents COMBINED!

A considerable amount of this also applies to the GS/MS. That's bc substances fragment at different rates, depending upon several factors.

If you just run an oil with the BA, NaB, Tren-A and a monoglyceride in a MS the fragments will form dimers trimers and sodium adducts for sure. Now that's excluding any other adulterants EVERY UGL uses in their formulation.

How odd is it NO sodium adducts or adulterants were detected, only those substances that were likely listed on the vial labeling..

Sorry but IME data recovery of this nature only occurs when the tester is informed of what the contents are supposed to be!

Similar results we have all seen before, and are referred to as a "lump-o-gram" by some chemists.

Someone is feeding you a line of poop fella,

I welcome him onto Meso to debate or contest these issues further.

I will inquiry upon all these today. Hoepfully we will have a reply soon. However, I know for a fact that he has access to TrA as he is researching AAS. I will come back to you as soon as he replies. I am emailing him now. However, I dont want to overload him as he did this as a favour to me.These tests were never intended to go live anywhere.

Please note that we are in Europe and as such the tests were conducted in Czech republic. Not in the US. I am living in Europe. I have no access to anything in the US.

 

[GaryG]

Dr Jim ... you say and I quote:

"You claim to have good gear and have no tests to prove it so you are a LIAR. You scam and CON people"​

I say proof is in the pudding, let others be the judge - someone offered to test a completely anonymous order of Tren Ace and they have and come back with excellent results. Also - has a single person complained of

A) Being scammed (with evidence, photos/screenshots etc)
B) Sending money and not recieving goods (with evidence, photos/screenshots etc)
C) Recieving gear they are not happy with (with evidence, photos/screenshots etc)

The ultimate answer is a resounding NO.


Right now your turn, shoe is on the other foot:

My response to you when you repeatedly slander my thread and claim I am DAVID from a company called GETM (which is still operating) who scammed you and your two digit IQ out of some money and your extreme bitterness and repeated accusations that I am this person - I ask why do you think this? I offer free gear to you, I offer free gear to test, I make numerous attempts to build a bridge with an unknown person to me yet your response is simply:

"I have an insider that is telling me information"
Again you have no EVIDENCE? Much the same you say I have no evidence and now underneath your eyes is a test (which even that you slander and try to discredit minutes after being posted).

Why is there one rule for you and another for me? It is clear you have a vendetta and I can think one of two options:
1) You have an allegiance with another lab or brand which you benefit from in return for discrediting any new competition on this board (and excellent competition may I add).
2) You are wanting some kind of benefit from my presence on this board - to "allow me" on this board, which I refuse to do.

You say you have an insider? Mate this isn't a blue chip multinational company with several hundred employees LOL... Its Gentech, a UGL producing excellent quality gear given the competition in this field, specifically in the United Kingdom.

Your hate is embarrassing. Your evidence none apart from the same credit I would give an 11yr old whispering to another 11yr old in a school park that superman is dating catwoman. Simply words - yet 16 pages on has one person mentioned that I have scammed them? Has one person said anything has gone wrong in an order? Has one person got an infection? alternatively.....has one person said they have good results? YES ... and have a look at UK muscle forums, the same people posting here are posting there who are long term members with 100's or 1000's of posts. Has anyone tested my gear? YES, anonymously, and the results came back 105mg per ml for Tren Ace...

Game , Set, Match ... and for anyone interested in ignoring Dr Jim's merciless, ruthless, endless, incessant rants about GENTECH with no more evidence than "my mate told me hes an insider" - is surely laughable by now.

I dont know how much "clout" you have on this forum but you sir, from what I have seen and you constantly lie about, are what we call in Britain a grade A bellend.

 

[devildog93]

Good play moron. Attack one of the guys providing the bulk of testing at meso, great thinking.As far as i know, he has no horse in this race and is not affiliated with anyone. His testing is a big part of the defense against weasel sources on this forum. You look like one of those slimy sources. A lot of "testing" has been gone over with a fine tooth comb in the last 6 months and been left wanting. This is in large part due to Jim, some bloodwork done by others, and a few others like Capt. Forest.

This isn't the first time we have seen questionable testing, so please quit acting like you are the mensa guy coming to help the guys that can barely read, much less understand a lab report. Jim has pointed out the shortcomings of your report, and he should know because he has run into pitfalls in his own testing. I trust him to know what should be in a report due to his experience in this area and his track record. To date i can not recall him falling on his face one time. Not once. I can however recall several labs having egg on their face when their testing could not be duplicated and fell short of their original claims. The last such example didn't even require Dr. Jim to set the bullshit meter on red alert. Naps had tested a sample by using another lesser sample as the baseline. Using this method they determined their gear was 106% pure or some goofy claim. You aren't the first guy to come around talking out of your ass, so please stop the bullshit.

 

[xupc]

This is solid source bashing with no evidence. I'm out of this thread.

 

[Dr JIM]

You know considering what appears to be your blind support for the GENTECH product your using and this "lab" I'm also beginning to wonder?

 

[xupc]

You know considering what appears to be your blind support for the GENTECH product your using and this "lab" I'm also beginning to wonder?

I received good product. I did test it and found it solid. I am reporting my experiences. I have evidence.

I do not support any lab.. but senseless lab bashing without a single clue is pointless. If you have evidence against gentech please tell them to me as I am about to spend a boatload of money for my prep. I am NOT joking.

 

[Dr JIM]

And I'm trying to enlighten you about how you can VARIFY the results from the lab you used. If you choose not to do this it's no surprise your prior experience with UGL gear has been the "shits"!

And I will also say your blindly supporting this lab called GENTECH.

Oh and incidentally where is the a MW of 312 detected on this MS. I ask bc that is the MW of TREN-A and the absorbance spectra of this device is at the limits of most AAS!

 

[Dr JIM]

I received good product. I did test it and found it solid. I am reporting my experiences. I have evidence.

I do not support any lab.. but senseless lab bashing without a single clue is pointless. If you have evidence against gentech please tell them to me as I am about to spend a boatload of money for my prep. I am NOT joking.

The evidence is about as sound as my criticism of these lab tests you posted yet you "still believe". You used one vial of who know what and are spending a "boatload of money" again I'm not surprised you have been screwed previously.

But who knows perhaps you will be shipped all their good stuff and will become a willing GENTECH sponsor and advertiser.

ENJOY!

 

[xupc]

And I'm trying to enlighten you about how you can VARIFY the results from the lab you used. If you choose not to do this it's no surprise your prior experience with UGL gear has been the "shits"!

And I will also say your blindly supporting this lab called GENTECH.

Oh and incidentally where is the a MW of 312 detected on this MS. I ask bc that is the MW of TREN-A and the absorbance spectra of this device is at the limits of most AAS!

I will ask the technitian for the info. I am really curious as well to see what he will say about your observations. I hope to have news this weekend as he is away till Friday.

 

[IDLIKETOREMAINANONYMOUS]

Has anyone done blood work on Gary's gear? He has been very responsive--I am sill wet behind the ears and hesitant to try a small batch from this guyy

 

[xupc]

As promised photo from the spectofotometer with my username in 3 different forums in order to prove that I indeed have access to the machine.

I have emailed the tech. He is off till Monday. Hopefully I will have the replies soon.

 

[GaryG]

As promised photo from the spectofotometer with my username in 3 different forums in order to prove that I indeed have access to the machine.

I have emailed the tech. He is off till Monday. Hopefully I will have the replies soon.

Theres no hope buddy - Dr Jim will even dispute this and next want you to dismantle the machine and picture every single component and microchip within the machine and then want you to put an endangered ivory tusk next to the machine, a 3ft midget with red hair and the woman with three breasts holding up your passport next to this machine ... LOL

Thank you XUPC and maybe one day we'll find which lab Dr Jim is affiliated with and why hes taken such offence to Gentech and the fact that we know what we're doing, we deliver, not a single disgruntled customer and extremely well dosed and POTENT gear... unlike the crap hes making at his mums house (not 100% confirmed its his mother - the conception was a bukake involving several men but lets not upset Dr Jim).

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Theres no hope buddy - Dr Jim will even dispute this and next want you to dismantle the machine and picture every single component and microchip within the machine and then want you to put an endangered ivory tusk next to the machine, a 3ft midget with red hair and the woman with three breasts holding up your passport next to this machine ... LOL

Thank you XUPC and maybe one day we'll find which lab Dr Jim is affiliated with and why hes taken such offence to Gentech and the fact that we know what we're doing, we deliver, not a single disgruntled customer and extremely well dosed and POTENT gear... unlike the crap hes making at his mums house (not 100% confirmed its his mother - the conception was a bukake involving several men but lets not upset Dr Jim).

Have you ever seen what happens to sources when they start attacking the character of respected Meso members? It's not pretty. I'll leave it at that.

Take your bullshit somewhere else.

 

[Dr JIM]

Theres no hope buddy - Dr Jim will even dispute this and next want you to dismantle the machine and picture every single component and microchip within the machine and then want you to put an endangered ivory tusk next to the machine, a 3ft midget with red hair and the woman with three breasts holding up your passport next to this machine ... LOL

Thank you XUPC and maybe one day we'll find which lab Dr Jim is affiliated with and why hes taken such offence to Gentech and the fact that we know what we're doing, we deliver, not a single disgruntled customer and extremely well dosed and POTENT gear... unlike the crap hes making at his mums house (not 100% confirmed its his mother - the conception was a bukake involving several men but lets not upset Dr Jim).

Gary the more you speak of something you know NOTHING about the deeper that foot is inserted into that mouth of yours. But that's fine with me, bc it's only righteous your the one responsible for exposing one reason why YOU have never posted analytical data. That's right since you don't know shit from Shinola with regard to analytical data I suspect your 'wholesalers' are greatly appreciative of such ignorance, unfortunately the same won't hold true for those few customers you do have over time.

The fact is you haven't the faintest idea of their utility and/or limitations. No doubt if your were sincerely concerned about the quality of your products you would show a genuine interest in my observations, such as the absorbance of AAS being LESS than the absorbance threshold of the Photospec that was used to test YOUR BUNK!

So by all means David jump in here, get apart of this action, and help us all understand and/or answer the questionsI I posed, LMAO!

"No disgruntled customers" well whoop-a-de do da day clown, what a phenomenal success story after only ONE MONTH on the only forum that will challenge your BULLSHIT, Meso!

 

[Dr JIM]

Theres no hope buddy - Dr Jim will even dispute this and next want you to dismantle the machine and picture every single component and microchip within the machine and then want you to put an endangered ivory tusk next to the machine, a 3ft midget with red hair and the woman with three breasts holding up your passport next to this machine ... LOL

Thank you XUPC and maybe one day we'll find which lab Dr Jim is affiliated with and why hes taken such offence to Gentech and the fact that we know what we're doing, we deliver, not a single disgruntled customer and extremely well dosed and POTENT gear... unlike the crap hes making at his mums house (not 100% confirmed its his mother - the conception was a bukake involving several men but lets not upset Dr Jim).

Hey David where have you been since March 24th? Sick girlfriend, allergies got you down, broke that femur again, or did your GM have her FIFTH heart attack? I'm sure an announcement although long overdue will be posted in the next day or two, LMAO!

See XUPAC bc of your experience and subsequent endorsement of GENTECH after using a single vial of some unknown compound labeled "Tren-Acetate" this Gary /David bitch has already included YOU in activities of malfeseance, nice touch GETM!

A fitting colloquialism, "be careful what you ask for you just might get it"!

 

[GaryG]

And thats the best you could come up with?

Hurry Dr Jim - there's a few other threads with faintly positive reviews and happy customers - quick, post on them before they could pose a risk to the lab your secretly in allegiance with on here ... hmm wonder if we can mention it here or if you'll admit your arrangement with them? I dont doubt what you do is useful and helpful but you have latched on to my like a juicy leech and thrown every insult and accusation at me claiming I am DAVID of GETM with .... what evidence? what link? what payment method match up? which continental or county locational similarity? .... nothing.

Your about as convincing as a politician full of shit, but clearly your making money discrediting others (which im not saying shouldnt ever be done as plenty of con artists and scammers in every market in every part of the world) but without rhyme, reason or evidence to me? ...... yea... completely unbiased my arse.

 

[Dr JIM]

^^^^

True to form another G/D post without substance, truth or proof, and if you honestly believe anyone credible on this forum gives a shit about what your think, see a psychiatrist ASAP!

Oh I've not said my opinions are unbiased, bc indeed they are, but that bias is the result of watching scum like your lab DAVID scam Meso members. So damn right I'm biased and proud of it FOOL!

 

[Dr JIM]

And thats the best you could come up with?

Hurry Dr Jim - there's a few other threads with faintly positive reviews and happy customers - quick, post on them before they could pose a 1) risk to the lab your secretly in allegiance with on here ... hmm wonder if we can mention it here or if you'll admit your arrangement with them? I dont doubt what you do is useful and helpful but you have latched on to my like a juicy leech and thrown every insult and accusation at me claiming I am DAVID of GETM with .... what evidence? what link? what payment method match up? which continental or county locational similarity? .... nothing.

Your about as convincing as a politician full of shit, but 2) clearly your making money discrediting others (which im not saying shouldnt ever be done as plenty of con artists and scammers in every market in every part of the world) but without rhyme, reason or evidence to me? ...... yea... completely unbiased my arse.

1) Yep you got me there bc I did support your former lab GETM bc I trusted trash like you DAVID and I've regretted it ever since and I will NEVER make that error again. Now if you have any evidence to the contrary post it,,,,, WTF am I thinking you can't even post evidence vouching for GENTECH.

But then again it's the same BS when you ran GETM. A lot of talk of evidence that NEVER was posted, yet some initially impressive results that seemed to be a reasonable substitute results (learned my lesson there also). Because those results were short lived, lasting one or two months, and then you rolled out that JUNK of yours!

2) Evidence come on anything DAVID, not even gonna happen bc NONE exists NADA

3) Fact is I am doing these analyses as a primer to canning GETM or any GETM spin off lab, and I am enjoying every minute of it, and that's "payment" enough clown.

4) Finally rest assured your crap will be assayed in due course DAVID

5) I'm so thankful you stopped by so we could chat! Anytime you need my support just let me know,I'll get back to you within the customary one week GETM interval

 

[xupc]

Jesus christ can you all relax? Lets wait for the other reviews and bloodwork. Me and some other from here got good gear. If Gary sends crap we will find out immediately. Everyone is vocal. Dont get into personal fights "I said", "you said". We are not 12. Dr. Jim made his point, same with Gary, same with a ton other people. Lets just wait for the reviews.

 

[Dr JIM]

Oh but it's not that easy fella, bc this guy scammed thousands out of Meso members and my objective is to diminish any further scamming on his behalf. Ergo only when G/D departs with minimal cash form Meso mate, is he no longer a threat and I have made my point.

Let me put it to you this way although I strongly encourage the testing of any UGL products (which SHOULD have been done by this Clown already) G/D can never be trusted, bc he is already a PROVEN SCAMMER!

And I'll even make a G/D a deal, whenever he conducts his own analyses on his products (at least FOUR of MY CHOOSING) I will post very good evidence Gary IS David was once the "owner' of the scamming lab once called GETM, that many of us "vets" CERTAINLY REMEMBER!