masterexploder
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The guy is an asshole, from day one. That's what happened.
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Let me get this straight, so if spetz fronts gear (ridiculous claim imo, or he is a fool, but I'll roll with it)... To Bob, and Bob doesn't pay; and then Jim orders and does pay, he deserves to get shafted b/c they both belong to Meso? Wtf ate you talking about?!I'm not blaming anyone for shit. BUT.... If you guys wanna know what happened this may be the place to start imo
Sounds like he may have been eager to get a foothold here, put too much trust in the wrong guys and Meso used him and spit him out. I ain't gonna lose sleep over it, but the guys that handled their business and sent cash are the ones that pay the price, and that's a damn shame.
Let me get this straight, so if spetz fronts gear (ridiculous claim imo, or he is a fool, but I'll roll with it)... To Bob, and Bob doesn't pay; and then Jim orders and does pay, he deserves to get shafted b/c they both belong to Meso? Wtf ate you talking about?!
And what about the members he stiffed over on reddit. They were no part of this.No I think he is saying that is what Spetz might have done to recoup money lost. Not that other members deserve the shaft. He said Spetz handled this wrong if that were what happened.
My question was rhetorical.No I think he is saying that is what Spetz might have done to recoup money lost. Not that other members deserve the shaft. He said Spetz handled this wrong if that were what happened.
Don't forget the virus he got at the end of the China trip. Couldn't post, had an IV in his arm.My question was rhetorical.
When he said, "but you guys that got off with a couple hundred dollars worth of gear or MORE might have done it at another brother's expense"... He is laying the blame at the feet of the guys spetz claimed ripped him off, instead of spetz.
1. He fronted gear and guys ripped him off
2. Trip to China
3. Beemer inverter
4. Sick kid
5. Funeral for fam member
6. Most offensive of all, that slag "rep" he "sent" over.
Stinks likes bag of smashed assholes in here.
My question was rhetorical.
When he said, "but you guys that got off with a couple hundred dollars worth of gear or MORE might have done it at another brother's expense"... He is laying the blame at the feet of the guys spetz claimed ripped him off, instead of spetz.
1. He fronted gear and guys ripped him off
2. Trip to China
3. Beemer inverter
4. Sick kid
5. Funeral for fam member
6. Most offensive of all, that slag "rep" he "sent" over.
Stinks likes bag of smashed assholes in here.
Don't forget the virus he got at the end of the China trip. Couldn't post, had an IV in his arm.
Usaspetz did come to and said he sent alot off alot of packs. And people did not pay for. I do believe that. I just thought guys were better than that. But this is a high possibility as there are alot if unknown characters here. Just look at the members list its full of members that I did not even know existed. Maybe Spetz got financially behind? And just did not know what to do. I have talked to the guy many time. He is actually a nice guy with good product I know that means very little in our world. Yes the guy has had issue but those past issues never effected us or packs so its wrong to sling that mud. even our outstanding sources here have had things come up. But this situation right now is still a odd puzzle that does not make since. In time we will figure it out.
So in the 5 minutes I've been back from what I gather some of the members making the most noise in this thread might not be telling the whole truth. I'm not taking sides here yet, and if I was I would ALWAYS side with the community of brothers here AS LONG AS THEY ARE UP FRONT AND HONEST. But now we are past slinging mud on a SRC, we are taking about divulging his personal info....this is extremely serious. Before I could ever condone that I want to hear the WHOLE TRUTH, both sides of the story. Should Spetz not reappear we will have to run on the information provided thus far, but it looks like his last PM's were sent to me about a week ago. Basically pleading for advice on how to handle some issues here because "the source is always the bad guy" in his words.
So.... Everyone is quick to say who is "out $$$". Let's hear the guys that have an outstanding tab with Spetz come forward and speak on their experience. I'm not talking about a free vial here or there on a big order or a kickback for poor T/A or miscommunication. Who here placed orders and never payed, or asked to ship but pay later, or had a WU transfer not go through but never made the correction and settled up. Normally I wouldn't give two shits if a SRC sent out gear before he got payment, that's his own damn fault, BUT I'm starting to wonder if a handful of members here holding out on settling their tabs are hurting the community as a whole and may have something to do with members that DID keep their word getting penalized.
Right or wrong. Sounds like the wrong guys are getting the shaft but before we throw this guys location out to the world maybe the members whom never settled up with Spetz could come forward and at least we could have an idea where this shit show got derailed. I don't know for certain this is what happened, and if it is I DON'T agree with how Spetz handled it, but you guys that got off with a couple hundred dollars worth of gear or MORE might have done it at another brother's expense. Be a fucking man, step up to the plate... what's right is right.
I think your probably right jb. that why im just going to back off and see what happens. Everything will pan out eventually.
Nope... Sorry man, I told Spetz I did not want to stay on his gear after I figured out how underdosed it was. Once he stopped showing up earlier this week, it was back to my other gear. He did compensate me for my underdosed gear and my bloods and compensated my bloods with amps. He did not fully compensate Tmac (only replaced the gear), as I've been conversing with him ever since we first bought around the same time, and offered to split the amps he sent me since he also promised amps to him later. @tmac34 declined but I hope still takes me up on that offerDam... there goes my hopes of pharma grade PCT. I am a new member here but I personally got a huge red flag right after someone reported an under dose and he said "he was going to china, to fix it asap with his supplier....."
@Marcus you still going to post your cycle update? How did your bloods turn out? Progress?