what is the best way to do HGH without SLIN

[BigBis777]

I have 500iu's of Jintropin, 100 icn's, this will be my 2nd time to do HGH,
the 1st was 3yrs ago, I did 3ius a day 5on 2off with 400mg to 600mg test wk for 3mo.
this time I wanted to do 4iu's a day 5on 2off with 500mg to 750mg for 6mo. but how can I stay on the test that long?

right now I'm about 20lbs over my average weight. 5'10" 225 11%

any help would be appreciated
PEACE MH

 

[HHH]

I have 500iu's of Jintropin, 100 icn's, this will be my 2nd time to do HGH,
the 1st was 3yrs ago, I did 3ius a day 5on 2off with 400mg to 600mg test wk for 3mo.
this time I wanted to do 4iu's a day 5on 2off with 500mg to 750mg for 6mo. but how can I stay on the test that long?

right now I'm about 20lbs over my average weight. 5'10" 225 11%

any help would be appreciated
PEACE MH

Get with Hogg,,He gets busy sometimes,,but he'll
put you in the right Direction.

HHH

 

[einstein1905]

There really isn't any good reason to go with the 5 on 2 of scheduling, but 4IUs/day is a pretty well-accepted dose....500IUs will get you just over 4 months use at 4IU/day, which is the min you should run it IMO.

 

[Tank01]

There really isn't any good reason to go with the 5 on 2 of scheduling, but 4IUs/day is a pretty well-accepted dose....500IUs will get you just over 4 months use at 4IU/day, which is the min you should run it IMO.

well if there isnt any good reason to go with 5 on 2 off then what would be your method einstein?

 

[BigBis777]

There really isn't any good reason to go with the 5 on 2 of scheduling, but 4IUs/day is a pretty well-accepted dose....500IUs will get you just over 4 months use at 4IU/day, which is the min you should run it IMO.

so it would be better to do 5on 2off for just over 6 mo. then 7on for 5mo?
what about the test issue, how do I stay on that long?

 

[BigBis777]

so it would be better to do 7on for just over 5 mo. then 5on 2off for 6mo?
what about the test issue, how do I stay on that long?

do I switch to something else during the cycle?

 

[einstein1905]

Run it everyday. If you want to layer a cycle on top of it, you can and should begin GH for at least two weeks to a month prior to starting an AAS cycle, and then introduce the AAS. It doesn't have to be anything fancy.....test alone is great. You don't have to run the test the whole duration....the 10-15wk range is plenty. Follow good pct, and there you have it

 

[depo250]

Run it everyday. If you want to layer a cycle on top of it, you can and should begin GH for at least two weeks to a month prior to starting an AAS cycle, and then introduce the AAS. It doesn't have to be anything fancy.....test alone is great. You don't have to run the test the whole duration....the 10-15wk range is plenty. Follow good pct, and there you have it

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Is it neccesery to take insulin and T3?

 

[Fronkthis]

No you do not have to use T3 and slin with GH. Using them combined produces amazing results so if your looking for the strongest cycle use with slin and T3.
GH decreases insulin sensitivity.
Glucophage increase insulin sensitivty. So if one was to not use slin, glucophage (metformin) would be ideal for synergy.
GH also decreases T4 conversion to T3, thus supplemental T3 is applied.
Guggelsterones improve thyroid output, so does tyrosine, iodine.
Ephedrine is also supposed to help.
Have you read Building The Perfect Beast?
it will answer all your question worth $50 to not waste all the $$$ you spent on gear. I have more ino if you want PM me,.

 

[einstein1905]

No you do not have to use T3 and slin with GH. Using them combined produces amazing results so if your looking for the strongest cycle use with slin and T3.
GH decreases insulin sensitivity.
Glucophage increase insulin sensitivty. So if one was to not use slin, glucophage (metformin) would be ideal for synergy.
GH also decreases T4 conversion to T3, thus supplemental T3 is applied.
Guggelsterones improve thyroid output, so does tyrosine, iodine.
Ephedrine is also supposed to help.
Have you read Building The Perfect Beast?
it will answer all your question worth $50 to not waste all the $$$ you spent on gear. I have more ino if you want PM me,.

Rosiglitazone is a far better choice than metformin. metformin's main mechanism is ceasing hepatic gluconeogenesis...increasing peripheral tissue insulin sensitivity is secondary via AMPK. Rosiglitazone's primary mechanism is increasing insulin sensitivity in peripheral tissues. Rosiglitazone is also not hepatotoxic like metformin.

 

[freak]

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Is it neccesery to take insulin and T3?

go to basskilleronline.com for comprehensive articles on insulin and t3. everything you ever wanted to know about insulin is there.

 

[jimanold22]

There really isn't any good reason to go with the 5 on 2 of scheduling, but 4IUs/day is a pretty well-accepted dose....500IUs will get you just over 4 months use at 4IU/day, which is the min you should run it IMO.

Hey Einstein,I have read that 5on 2 off is better because it lessens the chance of becoming diabetic with long term HGH use.I may be wrong,But I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

 

[einstein1905]

Hey Einstein,I have read that 5on 2 off is better because it lessens the chance of becoming diabetic with long term HGH use.I may be wrong,But I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

The potential to develop type II diabetes from long term GH use is real, but it's not very probable. Some degree of insulin resistance may develop over a long period of extended use, but I've yet to hear of anyone who uses GH in the typical dose range develop type II or even have a significant increase in insulin resistance. My BG values are still the same at the same time points now as when I first started GH. I know people that haven't stopped using GH for 2-3 years now with no problems with insulin resistance, AAS can also lead to insulin resistance, but how many BBers do you know that are type II diabetics?

It's simply a potential risk, but not a likely risk.