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Who is our biggest, most shredded member at Meso?
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Im hoping!You"ll get MONSTEROUS on GH . Can them legs get any bigger ??Holy-Cow !!
Thanks OGH. Hope you have a great christmas man. Ill be on vacation after today. Wish you the best for new years as well
I used 250mg test, 750 deca and 50mg anadrol on training days on this cycle.
Next time i plan on GH being in the picture. That oughta make things easier. In both staying lean and hopefully get bigger! Maybe insulin too.
Baby steps man
BTW i meant donating blood. Taking care of my HCT. But i like Emans idea better
Dude if you add just a small amout of gh/slin to your next bulk you'll probably top out around 320lbs lol. I've had amazing gains from just 5iu each. I use my humalog pre workout and gh 5iu pre bed and 5on/2off.
Im hoping!
Thanks OGH. Hope you have a great christmas man. Ill be on vacation after today. Wish you the best for new years as well
Same to you Trukker , been busy lately just got a break today . Give those kids and wife of yours a great Christmas , I know you will....they always remember the Christmas"s !
I got @Wunderpus on it. Hes my ace. Hes helping me with the details and overwatch. Good dude
We're gonna manipulate the timing a bit differently than @ulfbehrt uses.... I have tried all possible variations, and I genuinely believe GH and humalog pre workout is the best option if you're using 3 or less iu's per day of GH. As Milos said "Don't workout on empty blood"
I fully agree with you. For me the hgh pre bed allows me to get a very solid 8-9 hours of sleep and better sleep=better gains for me.
Yeah sleep makes a difference. You get that every night? Id get that on the weekends only. Way too much stuff going on. If i could ask a magic fuckin genie for 1 wish it would be more sleep on the regular
Ever thought of doing your GH pre workout, then taking a peptide like MK-677 or GHRP-2 + CJC no DAC pre bed for the "natural" GH spike? I did this for a while, MK-677 made me sleep like a baby, and I KNEW I was getting a good exogenous GH spike during my workouts. Just my $0.02.
I've tried hgh pre workout and I did enjoy it, but I still prefer before bed. Also tried mk-677 before for a few months at various doses and I'd rather just stick to hgh. I'm sitting at 220ish right now, 6'1'' and I'd say 15%bf and my next bulker in January is going to be pretty fun lol
1-12 test-e 300mgs
1-6 test base 100mg/ed
1-6 nandro base 50mg/ed
1-6 eq base 50mg/ed
6-12 test base 200mgs/ed
6-12 nandro base 100mgs/ed
6-12 eq base 100mgs/ed
6-12 tren base 40mgs/ed
Humalog will be used at 5iu pre on training days 14on/7off and goal is to hit a solid 245-250lbs. No orals, but lots of pinning ha ha. Seriously thinking of adding masteron in there as well, but don't want to go too crazy.
Jesus, curious to hear how you like those bases.... Test and tren base are all I've tried. They hurt too bad for me to regularly use.I've tried hgh pre workout and I did enjoy it, but I still prefer before bed. Also tried mk-677 before for a few months at various doses and I'd rather just stick to hgh. I'm sitting at 220ish right now, 6'1'' and I'd say 15%bf and my next bulker in January is going to be pretty fun lol
1-12 test-e 300mgs
1-6 test base 100mg/ed
1-6 nandro base 50mg/ed
1-6 eq base 50mg/ed
6-12 test base 200mgs/ed
6-12 nandro base 100mgs/ed
6-12 eq base 100mgs/ed
6-12 tren base 40mgs/ed
Humalog will be used at 5iu pre on training days 14on/7off and goal is to hit a solid 245-250lbs. No orals, but lots of pinning ha ha. Seriously thinking of adding masteron in there as well, but don't want to go too crazy.
I've used test and tren base in water and in oil and the tren has always had a bite, but nothing that would deter me lol. I'm going to brew em all in gso @50mg/ml except for the test base.......it will be 100mg/ml. I've used eq-ace before and that shit was BAAAD, but I think the base version will either be no pip like test base or low pip like tren base.
You say prep, what do you compete in? Open or classic?
LordSamuilo
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I started in physique , in Classic now but i dont plan to stay there long . hopefully another year or so ill move to open and be able to be competitive. Right now im sitting at the top of my class in classic or bottom of the class in open heavy . So technically could crossover but im to competitive (sore loser) to step on stage as the "small dude" lol
fodsod
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Heavy open is tough class if you can't come in 220-224 in shape. Most successful heavy weights are 240+ in good shape all season or 250+ and still below 15% in the off season.
In the NPC at the State and regional level if you are complete (good top to bottom with no obvious weak points), symmetrical, peeled but full you can get away with 210+ and be competitive in the heavy weights. The problem with being mid weight class is a good light heavy right at 198 (203-205 on stage) or super heavy that just missed the heavy weight cut off will probably beat you in the overall. Not that any of that really matters because in the end it's all about who shows up that day. I just enjoy talking about the strategy of competing.
I know for me last year, I️ got caught up in chasing the number on the scale instead of just showing up in the best condition possible, regardless of what I️ weighed, and it bit me in the ass... I️ think when it comes down to it, especially in the local NPC shows, the man who comes in with the best condition almost always wins. No matter if they’re in the middle of the weight class or at the top. That’s been my experience.
Gotta have a good back and legs to pull it off though...
fodsod
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100% agree with not chasing a number but you must also be smart about your competitive choices. Shows aren't cheap and no one likes to lose so some strategy must be employed to give you your best shot at being competitive.
Example; if you're going to be really close to the bottom limit of a class you have to decide whether to drop down to the next class but come in a little flat and smaller than you think looks good on your build or stay where you are and square off against guys 20+ lbs heavier. Or if you're going to be at the top of a really strong class and need to decide if you want to push up into a higher weight class that has weaker guys (condition wise) and roll the dice that your conditioning will beat shear size.
In the end, if you prep right you should absolutely come in where you come in looking your best and let the judges make the decision. As stated, one must be complete (good everywhere) but back and wheels will make a huge difference as they are the two hardest areas to develop and maintain that size during dieting.
Conditioning will beat size any day of the week most of the time but shows are judged on several categories and if it was as easy as dieting off all your muscle to be super ripped to win shows the landscape of bodybuilding would look very different.
Winning shows is actually pretty easy. Just show up being the biggest, most ripped, most symmetrical complete contestant. Works every time. (Note -all of that was written in sarcastic font.)
LordSamuilo
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Yeah thats what sucks for me is im just in no mans land as far as my weight . I know genetically my weight , height, and frame are perfect to stay in classic , and with the some fine tuning i could be really competitive there . Plus , I dont think i could grow enough (in a reasonable amount of time ) to be competitive in open , but i know i have some gains still on the table . So in my heart I wanna keep growing just to see what im capable of , but from a strategic stand point I know where Im best suited to compete at ... The only thing im really hoping for is maybe another weight bump in the classic division . Which is possible the way they change things up constantly lol ... if i do well this year i may just swallow my ego and stay in classic .
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fodsod
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I'm going to be honest. I know a couple of guys that are IFBB pros in classic (both qualified this year) and they both left regular body building for classic. Best decision they could have made considering their builds.
The reason I mention them is because these guys are big guys (both were top of the heavy weights or bottom of super heavy weights previously). The successful classic guys are a lot bigger than people realize. It's just deceiving because they have to create that look for the stage so they can't look as full and thick as traditional bodybuilders.
With that small waist and wide shoulder look you have I'd be all over classic. Traditional bodybuilding is just not worth fighting your god given genetics that give you a serious advantage in classic.
LordSamuilo
Well-known Member
Yeah im pretty much all in on classic for the foreseeable future . I definitely wanna keep growing , but like i said, im too competitive to put my self at a disadvantage when competing is my main focus right now .
The funny thing is your not the first person to tell me to stay in classic , so it definitely puts things in perspective to here it from you too .
Thanks for the advise and encouragement , I genuinely appreciate it !
