Why there almost certainly is No God!!

[BBC3]

Let me break it down like this - as this of course is being PONTIFICATED in the back of my tiny little brain all the time...

THIS MAY BE MY BEST POST YET...!

Logical Argument:
IF you believe in GOD and all his Saints, then you must believe in the DEVIL and all his DEMONS.. Right? There can be no other way. Its somewhere in all those bibles about good and evil and all. One does not exist without the other. But none the less and MORE PRECISELY - Its pretty much spelled out for us..

ILLOGICAL Example:
I believe that every court/legal type swearing in begins with the final words - "so help me God"...?! Right? In fact, I believe you place your right hand on a bible in order to remind you that you might be STRUCK DOWN for lying after swearing on the name of GOD..! So then is the court not acknowledging the existence of the Devil and Demons at this point.?! So why then is not a demonic possession or unwilling control by the devil not a valid defense to all crimes, when indeed a crime is presented as an "Act of EVIL" by governing authorities.

Attempt at Rebuttal:
" Well thats exactly why this accused murderer will be put to death, or why this convicted bank robber will serve 30 years - Because he is "Devilish"...! HOWEVER - Should the BURDEN OF PROOF not then fall on the court to then prove that this person made attempts to RAISE the DEVIL, or Summons some type of demon involvement CONSCIOUSLY in order to assist him with committing the crime??! We are innocent until proven guilty? Right? Right? We just proved that a current legal proceeding has nothing to do with Civil or Criminal Law, but that it is superseded by Heaven and Hell, God & The Devil, or Angels & Demons..

I have not researched as of late what the latest devil and demon summoning techniques are, but I would hazzard to guess that 99% of the "fellons" convicted in the last 100 years did not participate in active devil worship or attempts to call on the Devil to empower their crimes. That makes them INNOCENT - Does it not? And most since Charles Manson I believe... And after all, God and the Devil are known to be very powerful and influential forces within the Holy Bible.

Proof there is no God.?? Well then why aren't those blasphemous heathens that have the audacity and supercede the will of GOD and MAKE JUDGEMENT on their fellow man on levels as significant as LIFE & DEATH simple struck down by a bolt of lightning where they stand. Are they really pompous enough to think that they are actually doing God's will, yet their is not "hot line" to get his verdict?

I wonder what would happen if someone REFUSED to put their hand on the bible or assert the final phase " So help me God". Is their testimony still accepted or valid? Or do we just hear it with slight caveat? LOL

So when you see that case coming up getting appealed all the way to the supreme court because the guilty party asserts they did not actively pursue the devil for assistance, you just might here them say - THEY HEARD IT A MESO...! LOL I just hope its not someone that really committed getting off..

 

[nuncaquite]

I believe (to my experience atleast) that we all have our "needs." Some realize this better than others and readily admit to their needs or faults. Others use reflection and other coping devices to stay in denial.
I think that maybe I see a mountain of need in some of these post.
Why are there so many hateful and condascending videos throughout these post? Somebody here has a deep need to feel superior. A need to tear down vs
heal. Poor fella, I think he needs a real doctor.

 

[ergomaniac]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEKuGcmW70I]Randy Newman - God's Song - YouTube[/ame]

 

[BBC3]

"Fella"?!??? Just name names sissy bitch.LOL So listen Soup Nazi. Its a free country. Its all good fun. To each their own... talk about coping devices. Your post is so prolific. We all see the your point now.

I believe (to my experience atleast) that we all have our "needs." Some realize this better than others and readily admit to their needs or faults. Others use reflection and other coping devices to stay in denial.
I think that maybe I see a mountain of need in some of these post.
Why are there so many hateful and condascending videos throughout these post? Somebody here has a deep need to feel superior. A need to tear down vs
heal. Poor fella, I think he needs a real doctor.

 

[nuncaquite]

"Fella"?!??? Just name names sissy bitch.LOL So listen Soup Nazi. Its a free country. Its all good fun. To each their own... talk about coping devices. Your post is so prolific. We all see the your point now.

The strengths of your logic and karate are indeed superior to mine.
I will now bow out and leave you to your game of follow the lea...[}]...

 

[BBC3]

You misunderstand my intention. My post is jovial and only encouraging your CONTINUED participation and understanding of this fact. Truth be told (and if I were not a fictional character), I am a DEEPLY RELIGIOUS MAN. I consider myself one of God's own creations with all the virtues and faults which he has blessed us all with. I give thanks daily for all that I have, and I pray that others can all someday recognize our fortune of LOVE, and cast out all evil once and for all.

WHETHER OR NOT a man believes that a God exists and created Man, the earth, and the universe is not for any other man to be so pompous to judge. We shall not judge our fellow man.

The TRUTH in the matter is this. GOD EXISTS because these foundations govern our daily lives in every single aspect. Man has struggled with his fellow man since the dawn of time and due to ONE COMMON DENOMINATOR. It is their belief in their religion that they are following. Wars are fought, many have died, and people have just been stoned to death in the streets over God. This religion is so powerful, that it can bring love where their is hate, and visa-versa. This religion gives man the strength to move forward when ALL ELSE has been lost according to Science.. AND Thus, science COULD NOT exist without religion as there would be no POWER to press on. This believe has the power to provide light when it could appear that there is only darkness. In short - IT HAS THE POWER TO BRING BACK THE SUN. Now if thats not something, I really don't know what is.

When you consider that of all this world and the resources that we have been provided, there is still 100 times to go around if..... When you study the literature and teachings, and then start to consider how profound and applicable these words are (and in every religion), you cant help but wonder how these writers could have been this gifted. You cant help it if you really TRY to understand what is said. The single most important words I believe are the Seven Deadly Sins. They apply in reality BANG-ON. And the amazing thing is that its right there in front of us on a silver platter. But you can lead a horse to water right?? FEAR is a governing aspect in these writings which has destroyed man over and over again. I only choose that one as it affects me personally. I do not discount the rest for their incredibly INDIVIDUALLY accurate meanings as they apply. If it were not for fear, there would not reason to hold contempt for any fellow man, and we would be thriving as one world 1000 fold the distance we have come. The Devil walks among us, and you WILL find EVIL lurking behind every corner of GOOD. MANY Great men have martyred themselves in the name of God and Humanity in order to get us to the point of poor level of civilization which we have achieved today. Sadly, NONE of those men should have had to. You have to know they did this because they were NOT Afraid as they KNEW that in this valley they walked, they saw only the true light..

Have no fear my brothers. Embrace your fellow man with love, honesty, and trust - AND you just might find it returned. You can guarantee that if you are always completely honest, helpful, and accepting, that 99 times out of 100; when that devil possessing your fellow man sees God coming - HE WILL HAUL ASS and release the soul he is tormenting.. Cause the Devil is a fuckin pussy.!

The strengths of your logic and karate are indeed superior to mine.
I will now bow out and leave you to your game of follow the lea...[}]...

 

[Michael Scally MD]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beYYZRN1sEs]Professor Richard Dawkins - "What if you're wrong?" - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Randy Newman - God's Song - YouTube

Cain slew Abel Seth knew not why
For if the children of Israel were to multiply
Why must any of the children die?
So he asked the Lord
And the Lord said:

"Man means nothing he means less to me
than the lowiliest cactus flower
or the humblest yucca tree
he chases round this desert
cause he thinks that's where i'll be
that's why i love mankind

I recoil in horror from the foulness of thee
from the squalor and the filth and the misery
How we laugh up here in heaven at the prayers you offer me
That's why i love mankind"

The Christians and the Jews were having a jamboree
The Buddhists and the Hindus joined on satellite TV
They picked their four greatest priests
And they began to speak
They said "Lord the plague is on the world
Lord no man is free
The temples that we built to you
Have tumbled into the sea
Lord, if you won't take care of us
Won't you please please let us be?"

And the Lord said
And the Lord said

"I burn down your cities--how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You must all be crazy to put your faith in me
That's why i love mankind
You really need me
That's why i love mankind"

 

[Stretch]

Some Christians might read that and be angry.

I pity the author, and take solace in how sure I am that the message it conveys has no place in reality.

Then I regret that I havent done everything in my power to show the love of Jesus to those who don't believe as I do.

 

[Dr JIM]

Fine post Stretch!!!!!

 

[Deadballs]

It baffles me that in the 20th century that there are still people who believe in God, especially that Jesus was the son of God.

2000 years ago some things happened that defied the conventional understanding of the times, which wasn't difficult. An interpretation of those things was scribed and translated and adjusted for eons till we have what we have now and people believe in it. Craziness!

I don't need to believe in God or Jesus or the afterlife to have good "Christian" leanings. I do it for free, I get no reward of the afterlife by God or whatever, my humanity, decency, morality, whatever you want to call it, is a gift I give to myself to be appreciated by myself and those who's lives I touch!

 

[Stretch]

It baffles me that in the 20th century that there are still people who believe in God, especially that Jesus was the son of God.

2000 years ago some things happened that defied the conventional understanding of the times, which wasn't difficult. An interpretation of those things was scribed and translated and adjusted for eons till we have what we have now and people believe in it. Craziness!

1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.


1Cr 1:19 * For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.


1Cr 1:20 * Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

 

[Mike Oxbig]

1Cr 1:19 * For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Considering non-religious beliefs are more prevalent among Scientists and other Doctorate degree holders than any other educational demographic I would be reluctant to call this an accurate statement.

 

[Stretch]

Considering non-religious beliefs are more prevalent among Scientists and other Doctorate degree holders than any other educational demographic I would be reluctant to call this an accurate statement.

That's exactly the point of the passage sir. To show that those who put their faith in knowledge, science, and education will someday realize how false their sense of security was.

At least that's what I gleaned from it.

What was its meaning to you?

 

[Dr JIM]

For some academics the thought of the "not knowing" is unacceptable, why else (excluding one's name in print) are therr so many theories from; "string, gravitational, guantum mechanics etc" needed, yet all proven a failure, to "understand the universe" and/or those pesky black holes, lol!

 

[Deadballs]

1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.


1Cr 1:19 * For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.


1Cr 1:20 * Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

To myself, a christened and confirmed, half Irish, half Spaniard that was educated at strict Catholic schools those above quotes are practically meaningless, and all the more so for my miseducation!

 

[Mike Oxbig]

What was its meaning to you?

Not quite sure, just seemed like the right thing to say at the time really.

I'm somehow doubt the well-established theories such as evolution/radiometric dating and the like will in the future be discarded by science in favor of theories that coincide with a literal interpretation of the bible, but everyone is entitled to their personal opinions I suppose.

 

[Stretch]

Not quite sure, just seemed like the right thing to say at the time really.

I'm somehow doubt the well-established theories such as evolution/radiometric dating and the like will in the future be discarded by science in favor of theories that coincide with a literal interpretation of the bible, but everyone is entitled to their personal opinions I suppose.

I suppose so. Unfortunately the time will come where we will all have the same opinion, (not meant to be the typical...right wing, smug response)but when we die, either you will be right, I will realize I missed out on some guilt free good times. Or I will be right.

Btw. Radiometric dating is far from a perfect science. And Darwin's evolutionary theory was predicted by all pioneers of the theory to accumulate a VASTLY larger collection of fossil evidence by now. Evidence which is inexplicably absent from the fossil record.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqz0plz6DEs]"Atheists...What if you're wrong??" - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Stretch]

The answer is you cannot "logic" God. That's why you can't "figure it out".

Our ways are not Gods ways, and Gods ways not our ways. We cannot fully understand God, and therefore must accept him by faith. That is the only way.

Or, explain by science the origination of the primordial atom. Since you don't believe in anything which can't be proven scientifically. I am not bound by the same restrictions, as my theory allows for the supernatural.

Nowhere in the Bible is the doctrine absolute benevolence of the Lord taught. Hence no scriptual references for his claims.

He is articulate and logical, but does a poor job of hiding his contempt for believers, clearly shown with his continued references to them; "...even if Christians don't" was repeated over and over, always referencing his preconceived belief of Christians to be small minded exclusionary people. Which, unfortunately, is too often a correct assessment.