4 year cruise and pct log

[nervje]

testis are back to original size of not bigger. Libido isn’t the best but it’s there, waiting on new results once all serms have cleared.

Hcg is out too or u still do your long term approach alongside serms?

 

[BirdieNumNum]

No hcg whatsoever for months now. Down to 12.5mg clomid ed. Gonna test see where it’s at. Then again 5 week after cessation

 

[Burrr]

@Drew dude
Holy shit, you got 5 years for selling xtc in college?
How much did you get popped with?

 

[gotgrowth]

you know ngl I would be a liar if I told yall I didn’t wanna cycle (3 on 3 off) again & when you do come off I hope u recover an thank you for bookmarking the thread thats legit

I know I need to come off badly and it’s been a long time coming. I’m totally mentally addicted and for no reason. I’m such a bitch and I know I have to do it. I’m planning to start my taper in August

 

[BirdieNumNum]

@nervje i also take 3iu HGH daily

 

[nervje]

@nervje i also take 3iu HGH daily

How long uve been doing the gh?
At this dose, i guess youre going for the fat burning effect and the slight faster trainingrecovery?

 

[Drew dude]

@Drew dude
Holy shit, you got 5 years for selling xtc in college?
How much did you get popped with?

I actually got a 7 year sentence but got out on parole after 5. I only got busted with 21 pills but they weighed it out and it came out to weigh over 8 grams. The punishment scale for XTC is the same scale they use for heroin or coke or meth, which is fucking retarded, since the price of 8 grams of any of Those substances utterly dwarfs the price of 21 XTC pills. The punishment range for my crime was 5-99 years. I technically got a good deal, but in reality I got fucked over by a shit justice system.

 

[Burrr]

That is fucking nuts.
You got rapists getting probation, and guys like you in prison.
Xtc is a white kid drug, but they gave you a black kid sentence.

I actually got a 7 year sentence but got out on parole after 5. I only got busted with 21 pills but they weighed it out and it came out to weigh over 8 grams. The punishment scale for XTC is the same scale they use for heroin or coke or meth, which is fucking retarded, since the price of 8 grams of any of Those substances utterly dwarfs the price of 21 XTC pills. The punishment range for my crime was 5-99 years. I technically got a good deal, but in reality I got fucked over by a shit justice system.

 

[anonymous_475692]

yo everyone it’s been a long time since I been here & I haven’t got blood work in awhile, idek where I am right now but I’m def different from when I was on cycle tbh

 

[nervje]

yo everyone it’s been a long time since I been here & I haven’t got blood work in awhile, idek where I am right now but I’m def different from when I was on cycle tbh

Would you say, it got better or worse over time since you quit?

 

[anonymous_475692]

@nervje honestly like feeling wise, I would say I definitely do feel more lethargic at times

and cruising for that 4 years def did something to my prostate

and I think I been off everything for more then 1 year and at times I get a pain in my balls and that feeling reminds me of when I first started pct (hcg, nolva, clomid) and everything was turning back on again after the 4 year cruise, idk why this happens at times but I just think it could be doing that cause they are trying to get back to 100% normal.

mentally I feel ok, I’m not depressed but I’m not overly happy and pumped up like how I was when I was on testosterone but overall I do feel fine (except the ongoing prostate thing I still have after the cruise)
but I need to get bloods for legit results on where I am right now,

and to be honest with you and everyone, I would be a liar if I told you I didn’t wanna cycle again

 

[Sharkweek]

@nervje honestly like feeling wise, I would say I definitely do feel more lethargic at times

and cruising for that 4 years def did something to my prostate

and I think I been off everything for more then 1 year and at times I get a pain in my balls and that feeling reminds me of when I first started pct (hcg, nolva, clomid) and everything was turning back on again after the 4 year cruise, idk why this happens at times but I just think it could be doing that cause they are trying to get back to 100% normal.

mentally I feel ok, I’m not depressed but I’m not overly happy and pumped up like how I was when I was on testosterone but overall I do feel fine (except the ongoing prostate thing I still have after the cruise)
but I need to get bloods for legit results on where I am right now,

and to be honest with you and everyone, I would be a liar if I told you I didn’t wanna cycle again

What's up with your prostate? Bph?

 

[anonymous_475692]

What's up with your prostate? Bph?

tbh with you, i was told that by someone awhile back (bph) but all I know is for sure is my prostate is enlarged but still need a definitive diagnosis (ngl I do expierence bph symptoms) cuz I don’t know 100% and to think about it, it makes me nervous to run gear cuz I don’t want it to get unbearably worse but id be lying if I said I wasn’t considering it.

idek if someone could run gear while having bph?

 

[nervje]

tbh with you, i was told that by someone awhile back (bph) but all I know is for sure is my prostate is enlarged but still need a definitive diagnosis (ngl I do expierence bph symptoms) cuz I don’t know 100% and to think about it, it makes me nervous to run gear cuz I don’t want it to get unbearably worse but id be lying if I said I wasn’t considering it.

idek if someone could run gear while having bph?

Dont take my word for it but i think if uhave an enlarged prostate, you could do cialis (if u run gear).
Might research into it.
I dont think an enlarged prostate is a reason to stop gear, or at least reason to stop you from doing moderate dosages.

 

[Sharkweek]

From what I have read, there are conflicting ideas about bph causes. Everything from it's just genetics, to shy levels, to estrogen levels, to diet.

My initial thoughts would be that if you keep estro and dht levels in the normal range it shouldn't cause any extra growth. Though limiting dht can also limit muscle gains.

 

[CrispyRockClimber]

tbh with you, i was told that by someone awhile back (bph) but all I know is for sure is my prostate is enlarged but still need a definitive diagnosis (ngl I do expierence bph symptoms) cuz I don’t know 100% and to think about it, it makes me nervous to run gear cuz I don’t want it to get unbearably worse but id be lying if I said I wasn’t considering it.

idek if someone could run gear while having bph?

Do you run any supplements for it like Saw Palmetto? And would love to here if you have tried cialis or if you ever do? If I don’t find a thread about it then I’m going to start one if like to here peoples reviews on it.

 

[anonymous_475692]

@nervje tbh I have not tried cialis before but I have seen ppl on here taking it to help their prostate & When I do decide to try a cycle I will add cialis to the order list and give it a try


also @Sharkweek i do remember when I took winny tabs i had to stop cuz my prostate was hard and swollen and hurt & if I had to guess a hypothesis for my prostate, i would think I may be sensitive to dht and it affects my prostate a lot since blasting/cruising for 4 years idk 100% tho but the pain I felt and the stress it caused me before makes it easy for me not to run the gear that’s been in my room ever since I stopped, got 3 vials of test E, 100 var tabs, 50 dbol tabs and 50 winny tabs and ngl I don’t want to go through the pain before but really miss the feeling of being on cycle tbh


@CrispyRockClimber i actually have a lot of saw pawlmetto and on cycle it helped only a little bit and i will take some here and there now but I can’t really see a big definitive improvement but will take as many prostate boosting supps before and after if i run a cycle

p.s thank you for putting all ur input in i appreciate and value it 100%

 

[Drew dude]

Hi mate. I have seen 2 endocrinologists and they believed I was fine because my test levels came back barely over minimum. “ ok clever ass I’m supposed to have marble balls and the test levels of an OAP”. I decided to do something about it myself.
I was on test up to 4g a week yes grams (some weeks) and that’s not even including the Deca and tren. Safe to say my balls took a good beating. I done the “power pct” 3 times if I remember correctly and it did nothing for the atrophy. I then decided to take a long term approach with the hcg. It’s been well over a year and the gonads have grown significantly. I’d also like to say I had pains in the nads for a year but they lessened and stopped. I started off at about 1000- 2000iu e3d. Anything less did nothing. I had bad side effects higher e2 etc but I did this for about 5months (taking extremestane) at about 12.5mg every 10days. Currently taking about 500-800iu e4d of hcg and I seem to not need any AIs whatsoever. Currently waiting for the right time to cease hcg and do a little Clom and tamox protocol.
I understand how you feel with it affecting your relationship and would recommend you get your test levels checked again. Hope this helps.

This deserves a bump to the top.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Only 2% of my sperm actually swam following all this shit. But my girlfriend has a bun in the oven right now and I’m one happy mother fucker.

Big shout out to HCG, the realest nigga.

 

[Drew dude]

Only 2% of my sperm actually swam following all this shit. But my girlfriend has a bun in the oven right now and I’m one happy mother fucker.

Big shout out to HCG, the realest nigga.

HMG along with HCG for the remaining 98%