Dr. John Crisler Arrest - 'The War on Men'

And this should not be labeled a War on Men...a real man never raises a hand to a woman.

Very true toolman,

If a drunken chick is coming at you full throttle with an object in hand, I am not going to stand there and say "honey you really need to put that down before some one gets hurt". I am going to defend my self the best way I can through natural survival mood. If she gets hurt in the process of my own self defense then it will teach her to not to drink the next time. One can negotiate with a drunken soul so much before it turns nasty then its even man. I had a drunk off duty female parole officer start to wave a gun in a club. I took her down as fast as I could did not matter how. Once I had her down I contained the situation. Luckily no one was hurt and gun was locked it did not go off. In certain situations force may be justifiable as a means of self defense and deemed appropriate.

As long as it can be proven self defense.
 
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Generally yes. But i am sure there are instances of self-defense where it is warranted.

Agreed but from what I watched and saw on his video this woman did not look like a major threat. He claims he blocked her swinging a candlestick or something. He also professes to be a martial artist. It is fairly simple even for a novice student to disarm a smaller, weaker, untrained opponent. It was not a knife or a gun so the only wound you would inflict is a bruised attack arm.

I am not saying there are no occasions for combative force when defending yourself from a woman...But when you have been drinking like he was, and you allow a "deranged ex" into your home, are charged and convicted and all you have to say is it was the cops and my defense lawyer and the court out to get me, you have zero credibility in my book. If you look for the thread on his site, he has a few admirers asking crap like "Did you use a rear naked choke". I think he must spend a lot of time getting his ass kissed and he truly believes his lies. Until there is a successful appeal, he is a convicted woman beater and should be shunned as one.
 
Fair enough.

I havent seen the video nor do I know the details of this case.

I generally think hitting a woman is totally unacceptable UNLESS it is in self-defense (i.e. some wacko broad is coming at you with intent to harm)

I am NOT a fan of Crisler but I have met my fair share of psycho women so i am just playing devils advocate here.

(FYI - I had a chick who called the cops on my cousin for NO reason and said he assulted her when he did not lay a hand on her.... he's a good kid and he was traumatized from that incident)

Agreed but from what I watched and saw on his video this woman did not look like a major threat. He claims he blocked her swinging a candlestick or something. He also professes to be a martial artist. It is fairly simple even for a novice student to disarm a smaller, weaker, untrained opponent. It was not a knife or a gun so the only wound you would inflict is a bruised attack arm.

I am not saying there are no occasions for combative force when defending yourself from a woman...But when you have been drinking like he was, and you allow a "deranged ex" into your home, are charged and convicted and all you have to say is it was the cops and my defense lawyer and the court out to get me, you have zero credibility in my book. If you look for the thread on his site, he has a few admirers asking crap like "Did you use a rear naked choke". I think he must spend a lot of time getting his ass kissed and he truly believes his lies. Until there is a successful appeal, he is a convicted woman beater and should be shunned as one.
 
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Do they really throw a year at someone without hardcore evidence? Im not even saying she wasnt crazy and forced his hand ( no pun ) but a serious beatdown must have occured right?
 
And this should not be labeled a War on Men...a real man never raises a hand to a woman.

I am in no way advocating hitting women just 'cause your pissed off, but your statement sounds old school to me... Today, they have Balls! Unless the tape has been fudged, the conversations between the 2 officers do not reflect the truth. I cant say one way or the other. I dont know either one of them, but just watching and listening to the tape, it sure raises the question. Did 'truth' prevail? I dont know.
 
No man should touch a women unless he feels his life is in danger.

I "bounced" in a bar for 4 years and ran across every fucken kind of drunk possible both male and female. I was cursed, threatened, pushed, shoved and had more than a few guys take a poke at me.

The rule of the bouncers was " call the cops first and then trouble guys go to the alley and get hit a lot" but trouble women were grapped in a "bear-hug" and taken out the front door" THEY WERE NEVER STRUCK/CHOKED, ETC. ONLY PHYSICALLY CONTROLLED SO THEY COULDN'T HURT ANYONE INCLUDING THEMSELVES.

REAL MEN DON'T HIT WOMEN!!! I HAVE NO SYMPATHY AT ALL for any fucktard hitting a women under anything but life threatening circumstances.

Fuck him!!!
 
I am in no way advocating hitting women just 'cause your pissed off, but your statement sounds old school to me... Today, they have Balls! Unless the tape has been fudged, the conversations between the 2 officers do not reflect the truth. I cant say one way or the other. I dont know either one of them, but just watching and listening to the tape, it sure raises the question. Did 'truth' prevail? I dont know.

I used to go clubbing alot and i've seen my fair share of incidents and situations where drunk chicks throw things at men and also attack them physically so in those situations I think its completely warranted to protect yourself from harm.

OTOH, there is a big difference between protection and decking a woman in the face.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZvm-AS_VrU]Dr. John Crisler, The War on Men. - YouTube[/ame]

new version up.

'a marijuana cigarette'

haha.

But yeah i tend to think this woman is full of shit
 
I watched the video. IMO, there is nothing in this video that will aid in an appeal. This is a heavily edited video. As I said, I do not understand the reasoning for the video, particularly in the light that it provides what might be the "smoking gun" for the prosecution.

It is not possible to state what are the trial exhibits, but if there is an exhibit showing Crisler's thumbs' injuries as in the video, this spells trouble for Crisler. Contrary to the video claim, I can see an abrasion on the left thumb. How does one get those injures without having your thumbs (or thumb) inside someone's mouth? Those injuries are consistent with her statement. The blood on the left side of her mouth is more confirmation of her story. And, this is proof of a physical confrontation. The presence of broken dishes, etc. on a floor is not. Why does the video point out the consistency!!!

There is undoubtedly more evidence (he said/she said, ...), but this seems damaging. [In order to address this evidence, the best hope is a motion for a new trial. Also, WTF! How could anyone be so stupid as to post negative/adverse evidence on the Internet.]

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The bottom line is, he was trialled, convicted, and if he wants to appeal it that's upto him but i have NO CLUE why he released this video to the public :confused:
 
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I still do not understand how he qualified for a public defendant

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?21026-Dr.-John-Crisler-Has-Been-Wrongfully-Convicted-of-Domestic-Assault!/page3&

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I'm not understanding why you used court-appointed counsel.

The case was so profoundly ridiculous any good law student could have handled it. So I just didn't feel like spending $25,000 dollars, after the financial disaster of that marriage, and in this economy. Also, I was told how great Stacia Buchanan is--and she is, when she wants to be, as she got that guy who tortured to death 17 cute little dogs off. She was nasty to me right from the start.

So - is he saying he could have afforded an attorney but chose not to spend the money? How did he get a public defender??
 
Whatever...

And how this ties into a "war on men", I dont know.

But it is assumed that men are the culprets...

What do you tell a woman with two black eyes? Nothing - YOU ALREADY TOLD HER TWICE... LOL[:o)]:drooling:

I would like to point out that IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO. I dont know the details either. But also everyone should consider that we live in a society where domestic violence is a HOT TOPIC these days. Its always occurred. I live in an area where they have been capitalizing on this. If the cops come to your house for anything quarrel related - ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO JAIL. This is $$ for the system. Period. But there ain no sending one to the friends house or hotel round here. There is also just too much experience with the involved going right back over and starting up the shit again on the same drunken night...!

As far as I am concerned - RACING IS RUBBING. If she wants a good poppin - then give her one, and no one should have the authority to say whos wrong. There is a differnce between a stranger barging into your house or slappin you on the street. A woman is involved with a man from the get go. She knows what he likes and dislikes. Just like she likes the door opened for her, and she knows how to act to have that happen. She also knows how to start a fight. She also has experience with how he will respond in given instances. Essentially, SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE IS DOING. And I dont give a fuck if he just came home from work one day, had some drinks and slapped her ass. BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT HAVE DONE IT IF SHE HAD NOT DONE SOMETHIING TO HURT HIM LEADING UP.!!! She knew what he would do and evoked it. She did not get with him because he is a pussy? right? Did this wife or girlfriend marry, start living with him, or invite him in because she thought he had no respect for her.?!?

Point - there needs to be more legal qualification for domestic involvment. So here are the new rules...[:o)]:eek::
1. If two people are co-habitating and qualify by set standards, then what goes on in the home, stays in the home.
2. Short of gross violence qualified by broken bones, cuts, or bullet wounds - there is no foul.
3. Pistol whipping is ok as long as it meets the above criteria and there is no deadly intent. Choking is optional but preferred. As long as recessitated upon accidental death - No foul...
4. The matter should be confined to PUBLIC INTERACTION ONLY.

She got involved with him cause she liked him. What changed? And why would she become a person that causes the person that SHE qualified for a mate to cahnge no negatively?! She has the option to leave. She had the option NOT TO FUCK IT UP... Social standards are so backwards and fucked up today. Women are many times simply fucking spoiled brat children and abusing a system that has been perverted over the years by liberal, ignorant idiots, who are manipulating the loud noise of the SMALL VOICE and thus perverting our society into PUSSYVILLE. I pray to the above the some standard sense of moral right and wrong shall continue to prevail to at least whatever extend it remains.

So really I guess it is sort of a "war on men", but more like a BATTLE in the WAR OF SOCIAL INSANITY that is the United States today.
This may not completely qualify for the particular circumstance of Crisler, but felt good. LOL:D
 
Abuse of woman in this country is terrible, but the legal abuse is also prevalent.

This is a great 'Whodunnit' deal, if we are entertained by those, but we really dont know the real deal. When looking at bogus trials, one only has to recall the O.J. Simpson fiasco or more recently the Casey Anthony deal...At this point do you think George Zimmerman is going to get a fair trial?...anyway...

All of the posts here seem credible, but there is also bias here against Crisler...IMO. How would you really feel if you didn't know him?

It appears she was drunk, he was drunk, and they're ex's...just another great night together! Who wouldn't have seen this coming?

Who did what to who? We will probably never know, but I know a few guys that have been railroaded. I dont condone Crislers Video expression, but gett'n the shaft by a woman is hard to suck up. IMO. They may have less muscular strength, they may be slight of build, but the girls have learned to be just as powerful as a man, without flinching, when payback is in order. Just my bullets as I see them.
 
I may suck at english but math is another issue...

Boozed up EX Wife (who took you to cleaners more ways then one) + Ex hubby + home alone =

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG0ochx16Dg]DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER - LOST IN SPACE - YouTube[/ame]
 
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