Sorry, I meant to say search for David Copperfield.
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Sorry, I meant to say search for David Copperfield.
That is news to me. But even so, what does that have to do with the banning of Phife?
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Thanks - I agree!
Nobody stuck up for me in that thread so I figured nobody really cared...nice to see that the incident was noticed.
Thanks - I agree!
Nobody stuck up for me in that thread so I figured nobody really cared...nice to see that the incident was noticed.
Hey phife!...Welcome here.
Yeah, the "hard delete" was a good trick, huh? If I had been a disrespectful ass with my response then Crisler would've left it up for everyone to see and would have done his usual accusatory shtick of calling me a person of 'low character'. But I was nothing of the sort, and the whole "Chilln" issue would have been argument that Crisler would have most assuredly lost. Soooooo, it was much easier to delete my commentary permanently and then ban me.
Here was my first remark...
After Dr. Crisler accused me of being 'disrespectful', this was my response...
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From the "Few words about Hormones 101" sticky by Crisler...
Really?
Why is Crisler so sensitive and protective of Chilln considering he supposedly has never even reviewed his info??
Crisler seems to spend his entire life on the internet (see the lengthy, waste of time diatribes on 'The War Against Men' thread), yet, he claims he doesn't have the time to read Chilln's theories?? Sorry, but we don't believe you.
Not to mention, Chilln was essentially directing medical care on the forum. There's no way Crisler didn't pay attention to what was being said.
Really?
Why is Crisler so sensitive and protective of Chilln considering he supposedly has never even reviewed his info??
Crisler seems to spend his entire life on the internet (see the lengthy, waste of time diatribes on 'The War Against Men' thread), yet, he claims he doesn't have the time to read Chilln's theories?? Sorry, but we don't believe you.
Not to mention, Chilln was essentially directing medical care on the forum. There's no way Crisler didn't pay attention to what was being said.
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Thanks - I agree!
Nobody stuck up for me in that thread so I figured nobody really cared...nice to see that the incident was noticed.
its what happens when you live under the rule of a regime
I don't understand why you guys are so "confused" about Crisler.
He's an insecure narcisstic who needs everyone to agree with him and kiss his ass 24/7. If someone isn't doing that they are "disrespecting him" because its all about "respect" ie his ridiculous ego.
Also, if all his "yes men" stopped validating him, he would probably have a mental breakdown.
He's an insecure narcisstic who needs everyone to agree with him and kiss his ass 24/7. If someone isn't doing that they are "disrespecting him" because its all about "respect" ie his ridiculous ego.
Also, if all his "yes men" stopped validating him, he would probably have a mental breakdown.
HARRY BLOOM
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I posted my HRT protocol that my DO had me on at the time. I was given a detailed critique.
Could it be he didn't understand it?
...extremely intelligent, far from insane...hebs
How would you know? There's a reason all of his PREG nonsense isnt heard anywhere else, because it's not the end all be all. Dozens have tried, 99% have failed, and they get blamed for not 'doing it right'.
Lots of laughs. If Crisler doesn't win this appeal, he's so fucked.
worst thing that happens is that he bans you. life goes on. but at least you made your voice heard!
cvictorg
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When he banned me for being a "flaming anal sphincter" I was so impressed.
cvictorg
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It looks like Dr John did not have a good time at his Ginther hearing
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?21026-Dr.-John-Crisler-Has-Been-Wrongfully-Convicted-of-Domestic-Assault!/page12
1) Well, THAT was a waste of 2 months! NOTHING happened. Except to move the Hearing to Sept 11.
Anyone see a pattern here?
The new Judge didn't even want to speak the malfeasant attorney's name who sold me out. She is well thought of around the 55th District Court.
Ass. Ingham Co. Pros Susan Hoffman Adams was in her glory. She's got an entire court system around her which could not care less about right and wrong, and she knows it.
Anyone want to make any bets on how THIS is going to turn out? Big frogs--very small pond.
They are going to make sure I have to serve my entire sentence before getting a real Appeal.
Time to turn up the heat.
2) Yesterday's hearing was in front of a different Judge--that's right, I have 2 judges, at the same court level, on the same case. I have been told THAT never happens, either.
The last Judge ruled it is okay for the police to fabricate evidence and perjure themselves on the stand; the Prosecution wasn't trying to hide anything when they didn't turn over THIS dash cam recording and a secretly-recorded audio from inside that house (which shows the police were lying when they claimed I confessed to a goofy "theory" SGT Brad Bach just made up on the spot); I wasn't "intimidated" by all those mean cops in my house; that Dr. Scott Carlson has nothing against me (wait until he stands before the State Medical Board for the things he did to try to help his old pal, accuser Debby Buck-DeJonge falsely convict me and then rip me on on the Restitution); and Stacia Buchanan's "defense" was just fine. Other statements which will be posted once I get the transcripts from my attorney. The entire transcript from that Hearing will be made public--and it will blow your minds! I have great hope this other Judge will care about the US Constitution, the rules of evidence, and justice. I'll let you all know how things turn out, but I am not confident in any way now.
3) SGT Brad Bach is the one who was terrorizing me in my own home that night. Wait until you hear him on tape! He was "thrown off" by the fact I was sleeping when they arrived, and was calmly telling them what had happened. Ya--THAT is how a guilty person acts! Then he took the story OFC Jonte Slack told him (such as it was), and completely changed it, to something which did not happen, is impossible by the laws of nature, and the alleged victim never even claimed happened. But the MTPD officers got their stories straight, and all claimed I confessed to it in front of the Jury. This "well known martial arts move" doesn't even exist--but he claimed, that night and under oath at the trial, he has personally been trained in it. I am not making this up! It's right on the audio tape, and in the court transcripts. And wait until we publish SGT Bach's official police report, where he stated he merely "stood by" while the other two questioned me.
It was like I was talking to a crazy man that night. You will all hear it. How did this guy ever get SGT's stripes?
Vince is busy preparing the audio tapes from inside my home for publishing.
4) Even Lead Investigator Det. Gregory Harris, who wasn't involved that night, had to get in on the perjury. He is the one who, by the way, refused to fingerprint the BACKHANDED fingerprints of Ms. DeJonge on that large brass candlestick holder; he wasn't about to gather any evidence which would show she attacked me. A few days later he called to say he wanted to search my home again. I had nothing to hide, so let him and Det. Grillo in. Det. Harris and I talked in the kitchen, while the other searched the house. Harris used that opportunity to claim, under oath at the trial, that I made a full confession to him that day. As if. Good thing I made sure to have a witness right there!
Later Det Gregory Harris called to claim they found additional "evidence" in my home. I told him "evidence" is an artifact of a physical event, and so there could not possibly be any real "evidence" against me. He told me Ms. Debby Buck-DeJonge claimed I was hiding weapons and drugs in my home, hence the search.
5) When Ms. DeJonge drove away that night in her drunken rage, she had my golf clubs, and almost-new golf shoes in her car. It took months to get them back. Nearly the whole golf season. And when I did finally get them back, she kept my golf shoes, stole a couple golf medallions off the bag which were precious to me, and also stole a pass for two rounds from Wheatfield Valley, where we had been earlier. Along the way I told Det. Gregory Harris I was going to have to sue her to get my property back--which she admitted she had. He told me if I did he would throw me in jail, as that would violate the PPO she slapped on me. Let's get this straight: a man who has not been convicted of a crime--so is inoccent in the eyes of the law--may not use the same court system he will face that same Accuser in later to return HIS legal property, without being thrown in jail. Anyone STILL think men have any rights in Ingham County?
Det Harris, did, however, demand I return an old golf bag of Ms. DeJonge's which would not fetch $10 at a garage sale.
He said her stealing my things was a "civil matter". I kid you not. AND I would have to sue her to get them back.
Flash back to what he said he would do IF I tried to sue her to return my property.
6) Not just "mixed up in"---I CHOSE to engage in it.
I chose to involve myself with that woman, over and over again. I chose to believe one day I could straighten it out, and everything would be great.
It's called "a lack of critical thinking".
Basically, I just wanted to be the best doctor I could, and my personal life was for fun and relaxation. And Debby and I had a LOT of fun together. She is not without her charms, and even through such dysfunctionality, we did love each other--I did marry her, after all.
I do think my extreme fatigue was part of my poor decision-making. Days were spent running back and forth between the Lansing and Grand Rapids offices, working in some way every single day, and then staring at the ceiling all night, trying to figure out what to do to try to save HER business. As she snored in her drunkeness, by the way.
And then there is that Knight-in-Shining-Armor syndrome.
When I met Debby Buck-DeJonge she never consumed less than 8 drinks per day. She was living on booze and cigarettes, and was ripped like a world-class model. She was beautiful (look how her lifestyle quickly ravaged her appearance in those photos), with a size zero ass and natural DD's. A 5'10" blond Danish lingerie model.
I did get her to cut back on the drinking somewhat, and quit smoking altogether (as her "friends" pushed cigs at her).
As time went on, her mental state deteriorated further. That weekend at The Grand Hotel, 5 weeks before the incident (where she also had a psycho drunken blowout) , had her muttering things which scared me. Disjointed thoughts, meaningless sentences. I begged her to think more carefully before she spoke, because her words were scaring me.
Look, I took an oath to love her, in sickness and in health. And "sickness" includes emotional disorders and drug addiction. I took my oath seriously, and even when I had to get out of the marriage (but made the stupid mistake of telling her so, so she had the opportunity to file in front of me-stupid! stupid! stupid!), I always felt like I had broken a sacred vow.
I am not the first partner of an alcoholic to suffer, not am I any where near the last.
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?21026-Dr.-John-Crisler-Has-Been-Wrongfully-Convicted-of-Domestic-Assault!/page13
1) It's as if the Ingham County Prosecutor's Office is working as Debby Buck-DeJonge's personal high-priced law firm. They have done everything they can to block me from attaining justice. Thank God, at least, the Internet will document their extremely unethical behaviors for all of recorded history.
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?21026-Dr.-John-Crisler-Has-Been-Wrongfully-Convicted-of-Domestic-Assault!/page12
1) Well, THAT was a waste of 2 months! NOTHING happened. Except to move the Hearing to Sept 11.
Anyone see a pattern here?
The new Judge didn't even want to speak the malfeasant attorney's name who sold me out. She is well thought of around the 55th District Court.
Ass. Ingham Co. Pros Susan Hoffman Adams was in her glory. She's got an entire court system around her which could not care less about right and wrong, and she knows it.
Anyone want to make any bets on how THIS is going to turn out? Big frogs--very small pond.
They are going to make sure I have to serve my entire sentence before getting a real Appeal.
Time to turn up the heat.
2) Yesterday's hearing was in front of a different Judge--that's right, I have 2 judges, at the same court level, on the same case. I have been told THAT never happens, either.
The last Judge ruled it is okay for the police to fabricate evidence and perjure themselves on the stand; the Prosecution wasn't trying to hide anything when they didn't turn over THIS dash cam recording and a secretly-recorded audio from inside that house (which shows the police were lying when they claimed I confessed to a goofy "theory" SGT Brad Bach just made up on the spot); I wasn't "intimidated" by all those mean cops in my house; that Dr. Scott Carlson has nothing against me (wait until he stands before the State Medical Board for the things he did to try to help his old pal, accuser Debby Buck-DeJonge falsely convict me and then rip me on on the Restitution); and Stacia Buchanan's "defense" was just fine. Other statements which will be posted once I get the transcripts from my attorney. The entire transcript from that Hearing will be made public--and it will blow your minds! I have great hope this other Judge will care about the US Constitution, the rules of evidence, and justice. I'll let you all know how things turn out, but I am not confident in any way now.
3) SGT Brad Bach is the one who was terrorizing me in my own home that night. Wait until you hear him on tape! He was "thrown off" by the fact I was sleeping when they arrived, and was calmly telling them what had happened. Ya--THAT is how a guilty person acts! Then he took the story OFC Jonte Slack told him (such as it was), and completely changed it, to something which did not happen, is impossible by the laws of nature, and the alleged victim never even claimed happened. But the MTPD officers got their stories straight, and all claimed I confessed to it in front of the Jury. This "well known martial arts move" doesn't even exist--but he claimed, that night and under oath at the trial, he has personally been trained in it. I am not making this up! It's right on the audio tape, and in the court transcripts. And wait until we publish SGT Bach's official police report, where he stated he merely "stood by" while the other two questioned me.
It was like I was talking to a crazy man that night. You will all hear it. How did this guy ever get SGT's stripes?
Vince is busy preparing the audio tapes from inside my home for publishing.
4) Even Lead Investigator Det. Gregory Harris, who wasn't involved that night, had to get in on the perjury. He is the one who, by the way, refused to fingerprint the BACKHANDED fingerprints of Ms. DeJonge on that large brass candlestick holder; he wasn't about to gather any evidence which would show she attacked me. A few days later he called to say he wanted to search my home again. I had nothing to hide, so let him and Det. Grillo in. Det. Harris and I talked in the kitchen, while the other searched the house. Harris used that opportunity to claim, under oath at the trial, that I made a full confession to him that day. As if. Good thing I made sure to have a witness right there!
Later Det Gregory Harris called to claim they found additional "evidence" in my home. I told him "evidence" is an artifact of a physical event, and so there could not possibly be any real "evidence" against me. He told me Ms. Debby Buck-DeJonge claimed I was hiding weapons and drugs in my home, hence the search.
5) When Ms. DeJonge drove away that night in her drunken rage, she had my golf clubs, and almost-new golf shoes in her car. It took months to get them back. Nearly the whole golf season. And when I did finally get them back, she kept my golf shoes, stole a couple golf medallions off the bag which were precious to me, and also stole a pass for two rounds from Wheatfield Valley, where we had been earlier. Along the way I told Det. Gregory Harris I was going to have to sue her to get my property back--which she admitted she had. He told me if I did he would throw me in jail, as that would violate the PPO she slapped on me. Let's get this straight: a man who has not been convicted of a crime--so is inoccent in the eyes of the law--may not use the same court system he will face that same Accuser in later to return HIS legal property, without being thrown in jail. Anyone STILL think men have any rights in Ingham County?
Det Harris, did, however, demand I return an old golf bag of Ms. DeJonge's which would not fetch $10 at a garage sale.
He said her stealing my things was a "civil matter". I kid you not. AND I would have to sue her to get them back.
Flash back to what he said he would do IF I tried to sue her to return my property.
6) Not just "mixed up in"---I CHOSE to engage in it.
I chose to involve myself with that woman, over and over again. I chose to believe one day I could straighten it out, and everything would be great.
It's called "a lack of critical thinking".
Basically, I just wanted to be the best doctor I could, and my personal life was for fun and relaxation. And Debby and I had a LOT of fun together. She is not without her charms, and even through such dysfunctionality, we did love each other--I did marry her, after all.
I do think my extreme fatigue was part of my poor decision-making. Days were spent running back and forth between the Lansing and Grand Rapids offices, working in some way every single day, and then staring at the ceiling all night, trying to figure out what to do to try to save HER business. As she snored in her drunkeness, by the way.
And then there is that Knight-in-Shining-Armor syndrome.
When I met Debby Buck-DeJonge she never consumed less than 8 drinks per day. She was living on booze and cigarettes, and was ripped like a world-class model. She was beautiful (look how her lifestyle quickly ravaged her appearance in those photos), with a size zero ass and natural DD's. A 5'10" blond Danish lingerie model.
I did get her to cut back on the drinking somewhat, and quit smoking altogether (as her "friends" pushed cigs at her).
As time went on, her mental state deteriorated further. That weekend at The Grand Hotel, 5 weeks before the incident (where she also had a psycho drunken blowout) , had her muttering things which scared me. Disjointed thoughts, meaningless sentences. I begged her to think more carefully before she spoke, because her words were scaring me.
Look, I took an oath to love her, in sickness and in health. And "sickness" includes emotional disorders and drug addiction. I took my oath seriously, and even when I had to get out of the marriage (but made the stupid mistake of telling her so, so she had the opportunity to file in front of me-stupid! stupid! stupid!), I always felt like I had broken a sacred vow.
I am not the first partner of an alcoholic to suffer, not am I any where near the last.
http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?21026-Dr.-John-Crisler-Has-Been-Wrongfully-Convicted-of-Domestic-Assault!/page13
1) It's as if the Ingham County Prosecutor's Office is working as Debby Buck-DeJonge's personal high-priced law firm. They have done everything they can to block me from attaining justice. Thank God, at least, the Internet will document their extremely unethical behaviors for all of recorded history.
Yes, it's called blaming everyone else in the world for your problems.
Talk about a persecution problem. Time to log off the internets and take a good look in the mirror.
Crisler's posts are the vast majority (~50% of 160) on the thread with many replying to his own postings. The most curious aspect is the idea there is some sort of vast conspiracy plotting against him. As far as his "good name," his announcement to the world of a conviction for "Aggravated Domestic Assault" surely does not help.
He admits to reading other sites regarding his troubles. Does anyone know of other sites besides Meso?
Answer this: Did you testify?
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