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OmL
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They 100% used it oil in their test E because they fully replaced an order for me when they didn’t declare the oil in their test E. I’m allergic to Miglyol oil. Just to be clear, there was no drama for my order being replaced and I gave the oils I could not use to a friend who could. That’s why I’m delighted to see grape seed oil, because in my opinion, it’s the best carrier oil.
Everyone has a different opinion depending on how their body reacts to the oil.
I much prefer sesame oil, many professional laboratories use it and it's not for nothing.
However, MCT is the worst of all, I don't understand why Driada puts it in some of his compositions, no point.
CaptainTren
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I like grape seed oil too. MCT tends to give me lumps(not from this source but others) . Yes it injects faster but my body handles grape seed or even cottonseed oil better . No pip and dissolves easy.
I remember I was getting a massage and the massage girl is on my leg saying what's this? As there was an oil small knot on my leg and tricep lol.
MCT oil is overrated.
Good afternoon
1. We changed the oil in Testos more than 1.5 years ago and have been talking about it for a long time. The problem was that Testos caused PIP in some people and we found a solution by replacing sesame oil with grape seed oil (GSO). It is considered one of the best oils for injection.
2. We used GSO to make a new product - Dihydroboldos (DHB). This drug is known for causing severe PIP and we were also looking for a formula that would not be accompanied by post-injection pain. And it seems that we have succeeded.
3. GSO is three times more expensive than sesame oil
4. MCT is not a base, we just add it to the base oil in several products.
5. So far, I have not seen any increased CRP among users of our products (I also do blood tests and my wards), despite the fact that there may be a lot of reasons for an increase in this marker.
1. We changed the oil in Testos more than 1.5 years ago and have been talking about it for a long time. The problem was that Testos caused PIP in some people and we found a solution by replacing sesame oil with grape seed oil (GSO). It is considered one of the best oils for injection.
2. We used GSO to make a new product - Dihydroboldos (DHB). This drug is known for causing severe PIP and we were also looking for a formula that would not be accompanied by post-injection pain. And it seems that we have succeeded.
3. GSO is three times more expensive than sesame oil
4. MCT is not a base, we just add it to the base oil in several products.
5. So far, I have not seen any increased CRP among users of our products (I also do blood tests and my wards), despite the fact that there may be a lot of reasons for an increase in this marker.
That's right, we use MCT in just a few products in small quantities.
As far as I know, we do not use miglyol, it is synthetic, but we use natural MCT, I will clarify this.
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We just love what we do and we have set ourselves goals as well as a mission for our followers.
We don't want to be just suppliers of products, we want to build a trusting relationship with you.
And we strive to ensure that the quality corresponds to the pharmacy. Of course we make mistakes because there are always things in the process that you didn't know about and they force you to learn.
Thank you for your trust, we will try to meet your best expectations.
I was told that we use MCT (C8). It is an acid made from natural ingredients and has no toxic effects. At least I haven't found a single study that confirms this
C 8 -" Caprylic acid is an eight-carbon chain fatty acid, also known as octanoic acid. It is naturally found in coconuts and breast milk."
Here is a study conducted by the MST that showed that they were common and tested for toxicity
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10685018/A study that proves that the use of C8 suppresses inflammation
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6555760/If you have any other information, please share it.
it is not in relation to the toxicity, the MCT from coconut has a lot of cross allergies,
Example with pollen which affects 10% to 30% of the population, nuts, which is also a very common allergy.
so some of us react badly to MCT because of that. but often people don't even know why they react badly to MCT.
this is why you will hardly see any professional laboratory using it.
And the side effects can be subtle (brain fog, insomnia, post-injection pain, poor absorption of the product, fatigue,eczema)
but since we here take so much product, we generally don't make the connection and we tell ourselves that it's something else.
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In this selection, we focus on the fact that it is an FDA approved component for Parenteral, Intravenous and Topical use. This means that it is not a toxic component, which in our opinion is the main reason for its use.
Your personal experience or the experience of your friends/colleagues is undoubtedly important, but do you think that a lot of people really have an allegory for MCT? Is it possible to check this statistically reliably?
Don't think about it, I'm not arguing with you, it's just reasoning.
I believe that if a person is not allergic to this compound, then it cannot be called bad/ toxic or unhealthy. It's just that MCT may not be suitable for some people due to allergies, but it can apply to any substance in principle...Peanut butter allergy is very common
Exactly, arachis oil has a high percentage of potential inflammation. I haven't use solely MCT, only in the mixes you have on test E and primo, but from what i've seen from reviews it's one of the easiest to brew since you can avoid super solvents, one of the easiest to pin because it flows like water and with a very good percentage of tolerance. Still, some guys can't handle it and this is a real thing. Most pharma companies use castor oil and despite the A' grade there are guys who can't handle it so there's no solution that fits all.
I am simply giving you my personal feedback and that of several people I know, which is linked in a very simple way to what I explain to you above.
Now you are free to put MCT in all your products, but what is it for? why lose 10% of potential customers for a completely unnecessary addition.
sesame oil alone is more than sufficient and is much better tolerated overall.
now do what you want, there are plenty of other sources here that understand that and we won't hesitate to look elsewhere the day MCT will be in all your products.
This is not a debate that I am having, I am simply giving you my personal honest opinion from some of your customers who have been using your products from a long time.
Thank you for your opinion.
Now I will explain to you why we use MCT.
Primo, Susta, Testosterone E and DHB are the drugs that people most often complain about because of PIP. Initially, we did not introduce MCT into these products, but we received a number of complaints. At the same time, we try to use the minimum amount of MCT.
MCT made it possible to remove PIP, which is much more important for most. This removed the complaints and people began to buy these products more.
We wouldn't be doing this if it didn't make sense. If someone is ready to share another way of dissolving these substances, then we would be happy to try.
Now I will explain to you why we use MCT.
Primo, Susta, Testosterone E and DHB are the drugs that people most often complain about because of PIP. Initially, we did not introduce MCT into these products, but we received a number of complaints. At the same time, we try to use the minimum amount of MCT.
MCT made it possible to remove PIP, which is much more important for most. This removed the complaints and people began to buy these products more.
We wouldn't be doing this if it didn't make sense. If someone is ready to share another way of dissolving these substances, then we would be happy to try.
ok thank you for taking the time to explain to me.
I understand your choice better now, my personal fear was that you would also put MCT in other products which do not need it.
For example your Test C/U, All your Trenbolone, Deca, Boldo are absolutely perfect as they are now.
I have never had the slightest pain or the slightest problem and the oil is extremely fluid.
<The best alternative solution for MCT would be Ethyl Oleate>
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OmL
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Ethyloleate?! What the fuck are you smoking?!
There is no need to add MCT to other products, we will limit ourselves to those that are on the list. It was a necessary measure.
EO has been used before, but in the course of experiments it did not give the desired result. We did not want to use it in high dosages because EO can also cause PIP and reactions by itself, in the form of redness
Many people mistakenly think EO is toxic because some blogger said it. But we've already had discussions here about this and no one has been able to provide any evidence.
Sesame oil gives me fatigue and a stuffed bloody nose
