Perrin Aybara
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I hit 555 DL natty, but only 405 raw squat and 330 touch and go bench. I had dreams of hitting those numbers, but never got there until using gear.
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I hit 555 DL natty, but only 405 raw squat and 330 touch and go bench. I had dreams of hitting those numbers, but never got there until using gear.
Absolutely possible
But you gotta remember you just breezed thru the noobie gainz
The rest will be a grind
Perrin Aybara
Master
That's what separates the true lifters from the casuals. Those five pounds every week gains are over with. There's going to be a point where the gains are brutally slow and you've still gotta train your ass off and maybe add 5-10lbs in three months.
That's the same thing when I see 130 lb bb "success" story.
But now I weigh 185 and I'm ripped!!!
Yeah but the dude was 40 lbs under fed and malnutritioned. So he really only put on 15 lbs of muscle from the base for his height and weight.
Their called newbie gainz. We all start some where and they don't continue indefinitely.
The rest is a bitch. But those are good numbers for a natty! Nice work!
NovaFlex
Well-known Member
Thanks man. And yeah, I completely understand that concept of newbie gains. I'm starting a PL program because I've been at that point now for a couple months, where Im making progress, but nothing like the first 6-8 months. Now is when the true grind starts. My DL numbers are still increasing steadily, but I know thats gonna halt soon too, so ive Been doing a lot of George Leeman style training.
I could be wrong, and it could all be in my head, but I feel as though I gain muscle / strength quicker than most people. If that makes sense?? It seems as though the numbers I'm at (although not amazing by any standard) should have maybe taken longer than they did. Is there anyone here to compare to? Anyone know their first year numbers, if they were natural? I'm basing this solely on the people in my gym that I've surpassed by leaps and bounds...I don't have much else to work with lol
Evilest-ninja
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It's possible, everyone has different genetics that dictate that sort of thing. I always put on muscle and get stronger really fast (just based on what people tell me mind you), but I have an equally high propensity to gain and carry fat. On the other hand I used to know a guy who was 6' 3" 130lbs, and he couldn't gain weight to save his life.
Absolutely it is possible that you gain more quickly than others. I believe your body type would be referred to as a mesomorph if that is the case. You also could have very good leverages for squatting and or/pulling. Hard to say without seeing video but leverage, particularly in the deadlift, is huge.
I made it to a 380 bench and a 540 deadlift at 195 before starting TRT.
Not a mesomorph in his case.
From what I've seen he is a true endomorph
Btw those are great numbers especially for under 200 lb
Nah, those are good numbers. No doubt. If you continue you should accomplish much more. Everyone is on the spectrum of a genetic scale. Some of the world's strongest were naturally very very strong. I read an article on Brian Shaw. Before he ever even started in the gym he was a basketball player and he was busting players up left and right. He broke some kids back on accident and that's when he took up weight training. His genetic ceiling is much much higher. Rare you know? Like the Coleman of strength sports.
I'm nothing special but I trained naturally until just 1.5 - 2 yrs ago. Most my time spent powerlifting was my teens to early 20's. First time I ever deadlifted it was 405. No not practice. The very first time I ever did the movement. I was up to 315 on flat bench within 6 months of strength training and always had kind of a weak squat at 365. But to be fair I HATED squats then and would find any excuse to not do them. So often I did just that, not do them
The only meet I ever did I was 16 or 17, 189 lb bw. Skinny as fuck.
Recorded
B 315
S 275 (bombed out bad that day)
D 405
Won 2nd place. Teen division
On a side note my mid cycle quest of bent barbell row 315x5 for 3 sets is getting within site.
Ripped thru 280x5 for 3 sets like Brock Lesnar thru the buffet line. It's almost getting fun
Ripped thru 280x5 for 3 sets like Brock Lesnar thru the buffet line. It's almost getting fun
RodgerThat
New Member
So new comp bench PR for me this morning was feeling good.... Cause I'm taking halo but besides the point I hit 340 for a solid second and a half pause to the point my spotter didn't think I could get it off my chest and it moved right on up before this I had 340 t&g and 315 comp. I'm thinking I could possibly maybe do a 365 t&g which would be a huge goal for me. Weight this morning was 193 and that's after 4 A&W burgers at 2am last night 
looked kinda fluffy this morning but who cares when you hit PRs!
looked kinda fluffy this morning but who cares when you hit PRs!
So new comp bench PR for me this morning was feeling good.... Cause I'm taking halo but besides the point I hit 340 for a solid second and a half pause to the point my spotter didn't think I could get it off my chest and it moved right on up before this I had 340 t&g and 315 comp. I'm thinking I could possibly maybe do a 365 t&g which would be a huge goal for me. Weight this morning was 193 and that's after 4 A&W burgers at 2am last night
Hell yeah man. Solid lift
I'm really starting to think all u bastages are on da roids
RodgerThat
New Member
Thanks man one day I'll come play in that mythical 4 plate club with you. I'm pretty fricken happy about this I've been off tren and last 2 weeks now and only on 350mg test and 20mg halo preworkout so nothing crazy either. My elbows were feeling knackered though so think after Friday I'll do a Deload week which sucks that's my final week pinning but I gotta avoid injury
I took that week off and first day back hit that 365 for 4 sets of 2 after everything else felt amazing. No pain. Breaks were less than a minute between sets. I damn near could have thrown the first rep of 365 every set. I don't even really have any leg push at the moment either. I also switched to suicide grip too and feel so much stronger for some reason
RodgerThat
New Member
Really? Suicide grip with that kind of weight scares me. But if you felt stronger that's pretty good especially with no leg drive. Any reason you think you felt stronger? Fear of death possibly fuelling you?
Just the rest I'm assuming. No achy joints going into the lift. The suicide grip has added a ton of power. It comes off my chest so much faster. Next week I'll be trying 405 with it
RodgerThat
New Member
Shit man that's a no fvck about weight for suoey grip but hell if it added 10lb to my bench I'd probably do it, life's to short to not hit PRs by any means neccasary!
Perrin Aybara
Master
I feel much stronger with suicide grip on overhead press, but it scares me on bench.
Suicide grip?
Hahaha, yeah right
Hahaha, yeah right
