Dw725
Well-known Member
Dude the odds of me chasing anyone are ZERO lol.
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Chasing sounds too much like running. I;m not saying it won't happen someday(and i will be screwed), but i was hoping getting bigger and stronger would keep me from having to run in most cases.
Dw725
Well-known Member
Exactly. I'd be more likely to run from trouble than to it. Unless it was to help someone who was in trouble I aint getting in any hurry haha
NovaFlex
Well-known Member
Put up another PR today. Haven't deadlifted since I started doing DUP, so that I figured why not... I PR'D on squats a few weeks ago so DL'd today
225x10
315x5
405x2
475x1
Last DL session I couldn't get up 455. Fuck yeah. It's light for most of you, but I'm on my way to 5 plates within the next few months.
225x10
315x5
405x2
475x1
Last DL session I couldn't get up 455. Fuck yeah. It's light for most of you, but I'm on my way to 5 plates within the next few months.
Perrin Aybara
Master
Good job, that kind of weight doesn't happen by accident. Keep it up.
NovaFlex
Well-known Member
Thanks bro. I know what people meant now.. You never feel 'strong'. There's always another goal and someone much bigger. My goal when I started weight training was to just hit 405 once.
RodgerThat
New Member
There's always something heavier to pick up that's for sure but 475 is quite the accomplishment and is by no means light for anyone here 135 is light a smart car amount of weight is not
Goals change that's for damn sure, I have records of my original stats 8 years ago and my original powerlifting goals 4 years ago, my goal was to be 190lb and have a 2 plate bench 3 plate squat and 4 plate deadlift. That was the ultimate goal at the time, I've done 10+ reps on all of those now so gotta chase something more once you've caught this bug
NovaFlex
Well-known Member
Thanks RT.
And I know what you mean.. My goals have changed drastically in just my year of training. It's fucking contagious man, that's for sure.
And I know what you mean.. My goals have changed drastically in just my year of training. It's fucking contagious man, that's for sure.
Perrin Aybara
Master
Welcome to serious strength training, every time you hit a milestone all you can think about is the next one.
mrdashdd
New Member
How much more do you guys pull on a DL bar compared to a stiff bar? I usually can pull about 50lbs more from a DL bar just because of the higher starting position.
Perrin Aybara
Master
I've never really been able to make a direct comparison. Before my first meet I'd pulled 552.5 on a stiff bar in the gym and at that meet I pulled 555. I was fresh pulling on the stiff bar though. Before my second meet I'd pulled 585 on a stiff bar in the gym and pulled a very easy 600 at the meet. Had 610-615 in me for sure looking at the video. Again I was fresh pulling the 585 in the gym.
I'd estimate around 20-25lbs out of the deadlift bar. I was seriously considering buying one this year. Just couldn't think of a way to transport it in my car. No way I'd leave it accessible for the morons at my gym either.
Do you prefer an Okie or Texas DL Bar? I've only used an Okie once and a Texas bar many times, but I prefer the Texas bar.
mrdashdd
New Member
That's interesting to hear. I have a few friends who don't get much extra out of a DL bar but I'm the opposite. I'm trying to figure out if its just my arm/leg/torso lengths or what? I pull on the texas DL bar regularly and always have to drop weight when i move to a stiff bar. The Texas DL bar is smaller mm diameter than the stiff bar i train on so i love the grip i get from the texas bar. I have never used an okie but have heard really good things about them. It would be a pain to keep track of a nice bar like that in the gym. I'm lucky that my gym bought one.
Perrin Aybara
Master
Maybe you're more explosive off the floor and you can get the bar up further before the weights leave the floor? I'm not slow, but I'm not crazy fast either.
Dw725
Well-known Member
Everyones mechanics are different so maybe the extra whip in the bar before it breaks the floor puts your body in a position that is advantageous for your pull. I haven't been able to use a good deadlift bar since college and I wasn't anywhere near as strong (no juice yet) back then so there's no telling how much it may or may not have helped for me personally. I pulled 470 no belt a few times back then but that was before I had some setbacks and basically rebuilt my squat and deadlift from scratch.
Perrin Aybara
Master
Could just be more proficient at it from using it often, too. There's definitely some skill involved in getting the most out of one. I only get to use one at meets.
NovaFlex
Well-known Member
Well I found one of the serious flaws in my bench: shit form. I've always complained my bench was shit, but I'm 99% sure it was 90% because of poor form. I was sloppy and didn't stay tight / only used upper body.
Watched this yesterday and ended up putting up 225x5 yesterday on flat bench.
Glad I found this dude. His videos are amazingly informative. He explains things really well.
Watched this yesterday and ended up putting up 225x5 yesterday on flat bench.
Glad I found this dude. His videos are amazingly informative. He explains things really well.
Havent checked in here in a while .
Just a lil deadlift workout . Finished off with light DB curls....
DL"s-135/185/235x1x6
285/335/385x2x3 (all 50lb> increments)
DB curls 35/45/55/65x2x8
Just a lil deadlift workout . Finished off with light DB curls....
DL"s-135/185/235x1x6
285/335/385x2x3 (all 50lb> increments)
DB curls 35/45/55/65x2x8
Does anyone here stretch prior to training?
J Strength Cond Res. 2013 Apr;27(4):973-7.
Acute effect of passive static stretching on lower-body strength in moderately trained men.
Gergley JC1.
Abstract
The purpose of this investigation was conducted to determine the acute effect of passive static stretching (PSS) of the lower-body musculature on lower-body strength in a 1 repetition maximum (1RM) squat exercise in young (18-24 years.) moderately trained men (n = 17). Two supervised warm-up treatments were applied before each performance testing session using a counterbalanced design on nonconsecutive days. The first treatment consisted of an active dynamic warm-up (AD) with resistance machines (i.e., leg extension/leg flexion) and free weights (i.e., barbell squat), whereas the second treatment added PSS of the lower body plus the AD treatment. One repetition maximum was determined using the maximum barbell squat following a progressive loading protocol. Subjects were also asked to subjectively evaluate their lower-body stability during 1RM testing sessions for both the AD and PSS treatments. A significant decrease in 1RM (8.36%) and lower-body stability (22.68%) was observed after the PSS treatment. Plausible explanations for this observation may be related to a more compliant muscle tendon unit and/or altered or impaired neurologic function in the active musculature. It is also possible that strength was impaired by the PSS because of joint instability. The findings of this study suggest that intensive stretching such as lower-body PSS should be avoided before training the lower body or performing the 1RM in the squat exercise in favor of an AD dynamic warm-up using resistance trainingequipment in the lower-body musculature.
Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2013 Mar;23(2):131-48.
Does pre-exercise static stretching inhibit maximal muscular performance? A meta-analytical review.
Simic L1, Sarabon N, Markovic G.
Abstract
We applied a meta-analytical approach to derive a robust estimate of the acute effects of pre-exercise static stretching (SS) on strength, power, and explosive muscular performance. A computerized search of articles published between 1966 and December 2010 was performed using PubMed, SCOPUS, and Web of Science databases. A total of 104 studies yielding 61 data points for strength, 12 data points for power, and 57 data points for explosive performance met our inclusion criteria. The pooled estimate of the acute effects of SS on strength, power, and explosive performance, expressed in standardized units as well as in percentages, were -0.10 [95% confidence interval (CI): -0.15 to -0.04], -0.04 (95% CI: -0.16 to 0.08), and -0.03 (95% CI: -0.07 to 0.01), or -5.4% (95% CI: -6.6% to -4.2%), -1.9% (95% CI: -4.0% to 0.2%), and -2.0% (95% CI: -2.8% to -1.3%). These effects were not related to subject's age, gender, or fitness level; however, they were more pronounced in isometric vs dynamic tests, and were related to the total duration of stretch, with the smallest negative acute effects being observed with stretch duration of ≤ 45 s. We conclude that the usage of SS as the sole activity during warm-up routine should generally be avoided.
J Strength Cond Res. 2013 Apr;27(4):973-7.
Acute effect of passive static stretching on lower-body strength in moderately trained men.
Gergley JC1.
Abstract
The purpose of this investigation was conducted to determine the acute effect of passive static stretching (PSS) of the lower-body musculature on lower-body strength in a 1 repetition maximum (1RM) squat exercise in young (18-24 years.) moderately trained men (n = 17). Two supervised warm-up treatments were applied before each performance testing session using a counterbalanced design on nonconsecutive days. The first treatment consisted of an active dynamic warm-up (AD) with resistance machines (i.e., leg extension/leg flexion) and free weights (i.e., barbell squat), whereas the second treatment added PSS of the lower body plus the AD treatment. One repetition maximum was determined using the maximum barbell squat following a progressive loading protocol. Subjects were also asked to subjectively evaluate their lower-body stability during 1RM testing sessions for both the AD and PSS treatments. A significant decrease in 1RM (8.36%) and lower-body stability (22.68%) was observed after the PSS treatment. Plausible explanations for this observation may be related to a more compliant muscle tendon unit and/or altered or impaired neurologic function in the active musculature. It is also possible that strength was impaired by the PSS because of joint instability. The findings of this study suggest that intensive stretching such as lower-body PSS should be avoided before training the lower body or performing the 1RM in the squat exercise in favor of an AD dynamic warm-up using resistance trainingequipment in the lower-body musculature.
Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2013 Mar;23(2):131-48.
Does pre-exercise static stretching inhibit maximal muscular performance? A meta-analytical review.
Simic L1, Sarabon N, Markovic G.
Abstract
We applied a meta-analytical approach to derive a robust estimate of the acute effects of pre-exercise static stretching (SS) on strength, power, and explosive muscular performance. A computerized search of articles published between 1966 and December 2010 was performed using PubMed, SCOPUS, and Web of Science databases. A total of 104 studies yielding 61 data points for strength, 12 data points for power, and 57 data points for explosive performance met our inclusion criteria. The pooled estimate of the acute effects of SS on strength, power, and explosive performance, expressed in standardized units as well as in percentages, were -0.10 [95% confidence interval (CI): -0.15 to -0.04], -0.04 (95% CI: -0.16 to 0.08), and -0.03 (95% CI: -0.07 to 0.01), or -5.4% (95% CI: -6.6% to -4.2%), -1.9% (95% CI: -4.0% to 0.2%), and -2.0% (95% CI: -2.8% to -1.3%). These effects were not related to subject's age, gender, or fitness level; however, they were more pronounced in isometric vs dynamic tests, and were related to the total duration of stretch, with the smallest negative acute effects being observed with stretch duration of ≤ 45 s. We conclude that the usage of SS as the sole activity during warm-up routine should generally be avoided.
Perrin Aybara
Master
I read that awhile back. Only dynamic stretches and light cardio beforehand for me. I try to do static stretchIng after lifting here and there where I can, but I often neglect it. After being up before 6am, working all day, hitting the gym and various cleaning and food prepping I'm usually beat.
Mostly dynamic stretches, foam rolling, lacrosse ball, mobility work before lifting. Static sometimes after.
You don't want to lengthen the muscle or lessen its elasticity before lifting as the stretch reflex helps provide power when switching from eccentric to concentric, unless the lift doesn't have a true eccentric like deadlifts or something.
