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Not gaining shit from 700mg per week pharmacom test e
- Thread starter Vomiit
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Ojdajuiceman1
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Did you post the blood test results?
Vomiit
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How about if you reply, try and have a conversation rather than trying to bash the OP.
Overtraining imo was my problem, also, macro ratio was a good point.
If someone posts photos of their tracking, which reflects what they’re saying, its unintelligent and unhelpful to continue to attack the food tracking aspect. This isnt supposed to be/ fit
Vomiit
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Where exactly am i sub optimal? Those kind of answers would be helpful
Test_Subject
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You're getting too many of your calories from fat, for starters. 34-40% is on the high end. Your protein should be a bit higher than it is. I know there's the whole 0.8-1g per pound of bodyweight thing, but if you're going to overshoot on anything, you want it to be on protein.
30% protein, 30% fat, 40% carbs.
ftaro
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As many other people have commented, your macro split seems weird. For training, there is a noticeable lack of intensity programmed on those sheets you shared. Even most volume-focused routines have more intense work programmed in periodically. I’m not saying what you’re doing doesn’t work, and I think we all assumed it certainly wasn’t working for you personally since you said you were not progressing.
Esssentially: it it works for you, fine, but it could probably be better
Grab Bag
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I knew you were a 4chan user as soon as you said you drink a half gallon of milk a day. Stop using drugs, clean your room, listen to your mom, and go home.
Abt
Member
Well up your kcals if you are not growing, can’t blame it on the gear lol
PS: you won’t grow in height anymore
The fact that you gained weight with time away should tell you you're overtrained. It was a similar thing that happened to me years ago, I actually had to take a month off, and I grew that whole time, no increase in fat, just GREW!
How about this, you’re not fucking special. Nobody here has any obligation to give you any advice whatsoever. When you post stupid shit to MESO you’re going to be called a retard.
Overtraining??? Fucking LMFAO. If you’re on steroids you would have to train pretty fucking hard to be over trained. It’s your macros. And your training program is garbage anyway. Otherwise you would see results. You’re built like a 5th grader.
You might as well burn this handle a start over with a new one. Nobody is going to help you moving forward. Cause you’re a dickhead.
Now run along and play!
*pats @Vomiit on the head
Uglyrichie
Member
So what were your numbers, kinda wanna see what 700 test e pharmacon numbers look like. I know it's subjective but their good is all you put out after you made a thread doubting them
Bashing a source, drawing blood, not posting results, this behaviour is not better then the one shilling around. Looks like you are full of shit. Oh wait I already said it.
Yo midget, you better post bloods or change handle.
Yo midget, you better post bloods or change handle.
Yup
Never heard of overtraining on blast... unless qe We are referring to CNS/Tendon and ligaments.
Qhen I used to actually train biceps... if I hit them hard, my forearms and elbows would.get FUCKED... but I'd still grow.
But everyone is different for sure and has imbalances/reacts to stimulus differently.
Personally, I'll keep absolutly killing myself to the point of collapse at the gym when I'm blasting.
I'm down to be proven wrong on this one though
Test_Subject
Member
Actual overtraining is nearly impossible unless your split and exercise selection are complete dogshit, you have zero ability to regulate your intensity, you eat garbage and you barely sleep.
I have natty friends who have ran Creeping Death II and finished it, and it's pretty brutal, so I have a very hard time believing that this guy is overtraining while on gear with the program that he posted.
Agreed for sure.
I definitely do feel the "Overtraining" in terms of powerlifting.
If I try to hit too many 1RM in a short period of time and I'm fucked for a while.
But never experienced it during my time bodybuilding... sure I would get very tired on an intense program, but the gains always came when I was running gear, it was almost a "Mental overtraining" rather than a lack of hypertrophy issue.
I feel like overtraining is very real in PL, but I'm still new to the sport, so I'll defer to the guys that know better lol
I've ran 28 Days Later natural and not overtrained. Now PL is a different beast. I had days that my body said "nope".
Test_Subject
Member
Yeah, I should have qualified what I said with "Actual overtraining is nearly impossible in bodybuilding."
Powerlifting is a different beast, obviously. Too much near-maximal work can fry the CNS in a hurry and beat you up.
Vomiit
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I end up going to failure on near every set, so whoever said i cant regulate intensity is probablt correct. I dont know what kind of animals you are but i can feel when im overtraining. Your deadlift doesnt go down 30 lbs in a week
Vomiit
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I usually cant stop training, but this time my body just said nah.
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