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Oral Suspensions WITHOUT Alcohol/Ethanol - What Can I Use?

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WeaponPharma said:
To the OP (me!) - I discovered the answer and it was staring me in the face… everywhere I look on the internet I find recipes for creating solutions with raw powders by using PEG and then alcohol/ethanol. The raw powders are placed in the PEG, which has been preheated, and you stir it until it dissolves. Once it dissolves, you have a solution. This is the answer for many raw powders. Increase the amount of PEG to arrive at your desired mg/ml OR simply add water and save yourself some money. PEG is soluble in water. Note: the solution will lack the benefits that alcohol brings, which I seem to recall was sterility or something, but since it is only being swallowed and not injected, it shouldn’t matter much
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Why can’t I find any recipes for this !
 
following this up - I brewed some Halotestin yesterday following the usual method: 1gm raw into 10ml of PEG - it dissolved but took ages. I then added 90ml of water as I am targetting 10gm/ml and the PEG is not dissolving into the water - they are separating after being left still, with the Halo/PEG sinking to the bottom. Looks like I will need to shake this shit up. Not really sure if the same thing will happen with my other brews but be careful dudes - I am absolutely no scientist
 
WeaponPharma said:
following this up - I brewed some Halotestin yesterday following the usual method: 1gm raw into 10ml of PEG - it dissolved but took ages. I then added 90ml of water as I am targetting 10gm/ml and the PEG is not dissolving into the water - they are separating after being left still, with the Halo/PEG sinking to the bottom. Looks like I will need to shake this shit up. Not really sure if the same thing will happen with my other brews but be careful dudes - I am absolutely no scientist
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PEG is good, brewed some dbol 2.5grams in 30ml in a vial heated in boiling water on a stove didn’t take too long to dissolve. Mabey around 5 mins. Filled the rest with PEG till it was 50mg/ml 50mls
 
patriotmuscle1 said:
There is also ora plus its a different brand with same options of flavors and sugar free versions..
Both the ora plus and humco are used by pharmacies to make oral solutions for example to make oral Adderall at 1mg per ml/100ml .. 100mg of Adderall or 10-10mg tabs and 100ml of humco or ora plus. Crush in mortar and pestle the tabs or raws.. slowly add solution to make paste ..then continue to add remaining solution and blend. Then dispense into container.
I assumed if was good enough for pharmacies to get dosing accurate for children and adults it would work fine for me with AAS. Note I add %5 over dose with my aas solutions. Hope this helps. Has worked well for me so far
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Is there a calculator or simple way to figure out dosage calculations I.e how much humco to powder I think I’m over thinking it
 
G3H303S3T said:
Is there a calculator or simple way to figure out dosage calculations I.e how much humco to powder I think I’m over thinking it
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You can use regular brewing calculator.. concentration/grams raw/total ml of product wanted. Just put ba and bb amounts at zero
I've never calculated for displacement in my oral solutions.. .. but you can.
So example. 30ml at 25mg/ml with 0% overdose

791mg raw powder
29.2ml humco w/ .8ml displacement
30ml with out displacement.
 
patriotmuscle1 said:
Also a quick way to do the math.. you take your total amount x total mg per ml.. 100ml at 25mg/ml
100x25=2500=2500mg=25grams..
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Appreciate you so much ! So if I had 10 grams of mk677 or whatever to make a 25mg /ml solution I would use 400 ml of humco ? Do you have any suggestions on mixing thoroughly or would it be better to just do a bottle at a time and use the corresponding ratio ? Again greatly appreciate the help just want to be positive on all the steps ,
 
G3H303S3T said:
Appreciate you so much ! So if I had 10 grams of mk677 or whatever to make a 25mg /ml solution I would use 400 ml of humco ? Do you have any suggestions on mixing thoroughly or would it be better to just do a bottle at a time and use the corresponding ratio ? Again greatly appreciate the help just want to be positive on all the steps ,
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I personally would do 50-100ml at a time. An even number to also make math easier.
So if you gonna do 100ml.. I would put 25ml.in pestle/mortar.. then add 2.5 grams and blend.. then add another 25ml and repeat until you've added the total 100ml.. . Do that 4 times and you will have 400ml at 25mg/ml.. also I recommend keeping each 100ml I'm there own container. I don't know for sure if this matters but in my head I prefer no larger then 50-100ml batches for accuracy due to the fact you need to stir/shake pretty well before each dosing.
Hope this helps you some. There may be better ways from. Someone with more experience then myself. This is what I was taught and have done for a few years now.
 
patriotmuscle1 said:
I personally would do 50-100ml at a time. An even number to also make math easier.
So if you gonna do 100ml.. I would put 25ml.in pestle/mortar.. then add 2.5 grams and blend.. then add another 25ml and repeat until you've added the total 100ml.. . Do that 4 times and you will have 400ml at 25mg/ml.. also I recommend keeping each 100ml I'm there own container. I don't know for sure if this matters but in my head I prefer no larger then 50-100ml batches for accuracy due to the fact you need to stir/shake pretty well before each dosing.
Hope this helps you some. There may be better ways from. Someone with more experience then myself. This is what I was taught and have done for a few years now.
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It does
patriotmuscle1 said:
I personally would do 50-100ml at a time. An even number to also make math easier.
So if you gonna do 100ml.. I would put 25ml.in pestle/mortar.. then add 2.5 grams and blend.. then add another 25ml and repeat until you've added the total 100ml.. . Do that 4 times and you will have 400ml at 25mg/ml.. also I recommend keeping each 100ml I'm there own container. I don't know for sure if this matters but in my head I prefer no larger then 50-100ml batches for accuracy due to the fact you need to stir/shake pretty well before each dosing.
Hope this helps you some. There may be better ways from. Someone with more experience than myself. This is what I was taught and have done for a few years now.
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you made it a million times more clear and I’m much more confident about the process now. Thanks a ton brother .
 
G3H303S3T said:
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you made it a million times more clear and I’m much more confident about the process now. Thanks a ton brother .
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No problem glad I could help. I did my first brew on my own by reading a step by step. Did fine. Then I had the privilege of someone with many years of high volume brewing come to my place and do a few batches with me on my set up and I learned a ton more. Just little tips and tricks to make the process smoother, easier, and so on..
Good luck
 
The trick is the solubility of the powder. Some don’t dissolve easily in water. The alcohol is a water soluble solvent so using as little as needed can get you the effects desired. Once dissolved add vegetable glycerin to bring up the viscosity. 1-2 drops of essential oil for flavoring. The VG is also sweet so by adding peppermint it cones out like a breath mint. Heat it up to promote good mixing. That’s been my solution. Try it and see how you like it
 
Qualityfirst said:
The trick is the solubility of the powder. Some don’t dissolve easily in water. The alcohol is a water soluble solvent so using as little as needed can get you the effects desired. Once dissolved add vegetable glycerin to bring up the viscosity. 1-2 drops of essential oil for flavoring. The VG is also sweet so by adding peppermint it cones out like a breath mint. Heat it up to promote good mixing. That’s been my solution. Try it and see how you like it
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I know you were looking for alcohol free but this is not much at all
 
Qualityfirst said:
The trick is the solubility of the powder. Some don’t dissolve easily in water. The alcohol is a water soluble solvent so using as little as needed can get you the effects desired. Once dissolved add vegetable glycerin to bring up the viscosity. 1-2 drops of essential oil for flavoring. The VG is also sweet so by adding peppermint it cones out like a breath mint. Heat it up to promote good mixing. That’s been my solution. Try it and see how you like it
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Very grateful for your contribution here my friend. May I please just clarify: are there any compounds in particular you have used which are highly soluble in the alcohol/ethanol? The aim for me would be to never have more than 1ml of ethanol per administration, so for example I would need a minimum of 50mg of anavar to dissolve in 1ml, if that makes sense. Please don’t limit your response to AAS… I have numerous other raws here! Noopept, Viagra, cialis, aromasin etc. thank you sincerely brother
 
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