Pharmacom TestE 500 - 12wks

[anfee]

Regarding the needle lengths. I'm rather lean in my legs and pin 2cc in each quad with a 5/8" 25 needle. Only once has any leakage occurred and it was an immaterial amount of oil.

For delts or 1cc in quad, I use 1/2" 27g and love it.

Don't try a 27g with a 3cc syringe tho. Only a 1cc syringe.

 

[TheH0517]

Regarding the needle lengths. I'm rather lean in my legs and pin 2cc in each quad with a 5/8" 25 needle. Only once has any leakage occurred and it was an immaterial amount of oil.

For delts or 1cc in quad, I use 1/2" 27g and love it.

Don't try a 27g with a 3cc syringe tho. Only a 1cc syringe.

Damn, 1/2"? I've only used 1/2" IV. I'm gonna get the 1" 25g and try those on all 3 sites and see how that works. I don't think my bf will get above 15% at any point (at least I don't plan on it, it's probably around 13-15% right now) so I think 1" would be perfect. I'm not very experienced with IM injections so it's new trying to making sure I don't go too shallow and whatnot. It's probably harder to do than some make it seem, but I still get cautious I guess.

I also don't see myself being able to use 1cc until I try TNE in the future. Unless I go with a short ester stacked with a long ester, but again that wouldn't be until the future.

 

[grey]

I also don't see myself being able to use 1cc until I try TNE in the future.

Walks or workouts immediately were required for my brief dalliance with TNE (same for other bases for me).

The PIP was dealable, but man the swelling and tightness was crazy for even 1CC.

 

[TheH0517]

Walks or workouts immediately were required for my brief dalliance with TNE (same for other bases for me).

The PIP was dealable, but man the swelling and tightness was crazy for even 1CC.

Is that from instant crystallization since no ester is present? I would think it'd create short but intense PIP which is more easily controlled since it's used mainly pre-workout. But that's all assumption based on what you're saying.

 

[grey]

Is that from instant crystallization since no ester is present?

Honestly not sure...

I found the immediate acute PIP less than I expected but the longer term "stiffness" type of pain much greater than I would have thought.

I did NOT receive any noticeable pick-up from any of the bases as a PWO. I am only N=1 though.

Mileage varies.

 

[TheH0517]

Honestly not sure...

I found the immediate acute PIP less than I expected but the longer term "stiffness" type of pain much greater than I would have thought.

I did NOT receive any noticeable pick-up from any of the bases as a PWO. I am only N=1 though.

Mileage varies.

Have you tried Tren Base?

 

[grey]

Have you tried tren Base?

Test and Tren both.

Had the same experience with both. I was gaining just fine, can't say how much using either added to that, certainly didn't hinder anything other than the mildly annoying post inject stiffness thing (especially in the delts... fuck all of that).

*edit - Also used a mix of bases including injectable winstrol. Same-same.

 

[TheH0517]

Test and Tren both.

Had the same experience with both. I was gaining just fine, can't say how much using either added to that, certainly didn't hinder anything other than the mildly annoying post inject stiffness thing (especially in the delts... fuck all of that).

*edit - Also used a mix of bases including injectable winstrol. Same-same.

What's your thoughts on injecting vs digesting Winstrol? I've heard the pain isn't worth it.

 

[grey]

I've heard the pain isn't worth it.

I think if I were to go with either one again (unlikely for me) I would go with orals I had tested.

I am unlikley to use either again since there just isn't a need for me as a non-competitor. Other less toxic things out there for a rank amatuer fiddling about.

That said, the pain wasn't THAT bad and I am a huge pussy.

 

[TheH0517]

I think if I were to go with either one again (unlikely for me) I would go with orals I had tested.

I am unlikley to use either again since there just isn't a need for me as a non-competitor. Other less toxic things out there for a rank amatuer fiddling about.

That said, the pain wasn't THAT bad and I am a huge pussy.

Ya I don't think I'll ever compete (who knows, 25 is pretty young still), but it's hard not to at least try it one time.

 

[TheH0517]

Day 36:

11th pin, right delt.

First time that the pin actually felt full/swelled/bruised/bothersome instantly. Not sure how to explain the feeling lol. I pinned before bed, hurt a little, and then woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep because it felt so strange. Got up and hit arms, feeling better now.

I waited until 10:00 Monday night to pin so my timing will be right for bloods 8:00 Thursday morning. That'll be right at 58 hours post-pin.

I start my first 250iu hCG Wednesday night and will continue that with the Exemestane 2x week.

My bloating SEEMS to be leveling out now, along with other high-estro symptoms. I think staying strictly to my diet and not cheating with a triple serving of lasagna and garlic bread has helped as well. Damn..... sounds so good right now..

Anyways, I'll update with bloods and pictures this weekend. My physique is starting to bulk up the way I was hoping. All is well.

 

[Jeremiahflex]

You seem to have a lot of years of lifting under your belt, what kind of lifting were you doing if you don't mind me asking. Also what made you decide to cycle.

 

[TheH0517]

You seem to have a lot of years of lifting under your belt, what kind of lifting were you doing if you don't mind me asking. Also what made you decide to cycle.

I played baseball for 15 years and trained for that for my school team so I mainly started with specific workouts for forearms, core, and legs (I was a pitcher). When I started working out on my own, I didn't know much. It was upper body 2-3 times a week and lower body every week or 2. I think I normally lifted whatever I could for around 10 reps with shitty form. After high school I started researching a little more and learned enough on bodybuilding.com to build a base, but still didn't know how to maximize results.

Now let's back up a little.. I'm a heroin addict. So I went from 205lbs and 25-30% bf to about 190lbs 20% bf by the end of high school. Got hooked on dope and went to 135lbs 15% bf. I've been in and out of sobriety and working out for about 5 years now. This go-round I started at 165lbs ~15% bf and couldn't do a single push-up coming off dope. I have a year sober this month and have been dieting and exercising seriously this whole year and I'm at 194lbs ~12-14% bf. I was 182lbs ~10-12% bf before I started this bulk. I only give that story because it's not your typical process. I decided to change my life for good almost a year ago and using gear fell into my goals for myself and gives me something to achieve.

I was using short periodization of 1 week 12-15 reps, 1 week 9-11 reps, then 6-8 reps, then 3-5 reps. Then I'd go back to 12-15 reps and increase weights each week. I learned this from Jim Stoppani's Shortcut to Size. My diets I've stuck around 40% protein, 35% carbs, and 25% fats but I put a large focus on what kind of carbs I eat at certain times of day and that has helped me progress towards my goals at the time.

Now with the introduction of AAS and everything I've learned (I research every day and I'm still learning a lot every day) these techniques will change. I always kind of focused on bulking and cuttIng simultaneously when I was natty. Now I'm transitioning to separate bulking and cutting phases. I'm currently eating more than I've ever ate in my life, even when I was a chubby little fucker. But the macros and timing play the most important role on achieving my vision for myself. I'm also powerlifting for the first time ever. I want to increase my strength and bulk so after this cycle I can focus on hypertrophy and continue building muscle with my added strength until my next cycle starts.

 

[Jeremiahflex]

I played baseball for 15 years and trained for that for my school team so I mainly started with specific workouts for forearms, core, and legs (I was a pitcher). When I started working out on my own, I didn't know much. It was upper body 2-3 times a week and lower body every week or 2. I think I normally lifted whatever I could for around 10 reps with shitty form. After high school I started researching a little more and learned enough on bodybuilding.com to build a base, but still didn't know how to maximize results.

Now let's back up a little.. I'm a heroin addict. So I went from 205lbs and 25-30% bf to about 190lbs 20% bf by the end of high school. Got hooked on dope and went to 135lbs 15% bf. I've been in and out of sobriety and working out for about 5 years now. This go-round I started at 165lbs ~15% bf and couldn't do a single push-up coming off dope. I have a year sober this month and have been dieting and exercising seriously this whole year and I'm at 194lbs ~12-14% bf. I was 182lbs ~10-12% bf before I started this bulk. I only give that story because it's not your typical process. I decided to change my life for good almost a year ago and using gear fell into my goals for myself and gives me something to achieve.

I was using short periodization of 1 week 12-15 reps, 1 week 9-11 reps, then 6-8 reps, then 3-5 reps. Then I'd go back to 12-15 reps and increase weights each week. I learned this from Jim Stoppani's Shortcut to Size. My diets I've stuck around 40% protein, 35% carbs, and 25% fats but I put a large focus on what kind of carbs I eat at certain times of day and that has helped me progress towards my goals at the time.

Now with the introduction of AAS and everything I've learned (I research every day and I'm still learning a lot every day) these techniques will change. I always kind of focused on bulking and cuttIng simultaneously when I was natty. Now I'm transitioning to separate bulking and cutting phases. I'm currently eating more than I've ever ate in my life, even when I was a chubby little fucker. But the macros and timing play the most important role on achieving my vision for myself. I'm also powerlifting for the first time ever. I want to increase my strength and bulk so after this cycle I can focus on hypertrophy and continue building muscle with my added strength until my next cycle starts.

Wow didn't see that coming. Well glad to hear you've turned your life around good luck man, I'll be following.

 

[TheH0517]

Wow didn't see that coming. Well glad to hear you've turned your life around good luck man, I'll be following.

Thanks man. I felt it's important for those following to know the background to understand the whole story. This new life has been a fun journey and the best part has been finding that out through my own experience. I'm just enjoying the ride.

 

[TheH0517]

Day 40:

12th pin, left quad. I've rotated all the sites twice now and the PIP was barely noticeable the second time around.

It looks like I'm starting to tighten up in the abdomen area. I guess the bloating is getting under control. Waiting for results with mid-bloods.

Other than that, everything is progressing smoothly. Nothing too entertaining for ya'll! I'll update progress pictures Sunday.

 

[KoreanGuy]

Day 40:

12th pin, left quad. I've rotated all the sites twice now and the PIP was barely noticeable the second time around.

It looks like I'm starting to tighten up in the abdomen area. I guess the bloating is getting under control. Waiting for results with mid-bloods.

Other than that, everything is progressing smoothly. Nothing too entertaining for ya'll! I'll update progress pictures Sunday.

Did you get the bloods done?

 

[TheH0517]

Did you get the bloods done?

Ya, I got them done 2 days ago and it said it takes about 5-7 days to get results so I will post them this week. I'm anxious to see them.

 

[KoreanGuy]

Ya, I got them done 2 days ago and it said it takes about 5-7 days to get results so I will post them this week. I'm anxious to see them.

Sweet

 

[TheH0517]

I pinned hCG for the second time today. When it was time to use it the first time earlier this week, this is how I reconstituted the hCG and then pinned it. I figure this may help the beginners like me that are following along. I used a 10ml 21g 1.5" to draw 1ml of bacteriostatic water. I squirted the bc water into the hCG vial along the edge. Do not squirt straight onto the dehydrated powder! Then I rolled the vial between my palms to make sure the solution was mixed well. Do not shake the vial! I drew all of the solution from the hCG vial and transferred it into an empty vial. Then I drew 9ml of the bc water and transferred it into the new vial with the 1ml of reconstituted hCG solution. Then rolled this vial to end up with 10ml of reconstituted hCG at 500mg/ml.

I used a 0.5ml 29g 0.5" slin pin and pulled 0.5ml from the hCG vial. I pinched 2 inches of abdominal fat 1.5" to the left of my naval, inserted the needle all the way into the middle of the pinched fat at a 90 degree and injected the solution at a rate of ~5 seconds per 0.5ml. Then I lightly massaged the injection site with an alcohol pad for 10-15 seconds to help the solution disperse.

Today I used the right side of the naval to rotate sites, although the scar tissue is very minimal. I had started to get slight pain in my nuts before I used hCG. I'm not sure if this was due to straining from lifting or due to atrophy, but the hCG does seem to help this pain subside. I'm not sure how the size of my balls have changed. I just don't pay much attention to them, but my wife might be able to share this information with me.

Here are my progress photos at the end of 6 weeks. We're halfway through and I've noticed some decent improvement in mass AND definition. Nothing dramatic to me, but I see myself every day. Enough to keep me happy though! Mid-Bloods will be posted this week when I receive the results.