Secret Sources, the SCOC and the Steroid Underground

[Flounder]

yeah just give me a few days or so. i want this to be buried a bit.

I was being sarcastic with you. Somehow I just get the feeling you may have a hard time here on Meso. Here, we discourage sourcing through PM's and you seem destined to prove a point. Why? What is your point and what are your goals by going in this direction? Yes PM scamming does exist everywhere, but here we minimize it so new members are not exploited by fucking scammers.

 

[I_know_nothing]

Curious why are you commenting on sourcing here and using terms like "we" when you have been here a whole 7 hours?

am i not a member here? or do i members need to go through a vetting process as well? am i not allowed to speak my opinion on sourcing? or do i need to have a certain amount of posts?

i do not mean any sarcasm, i'm seriously curious.

 

[I_know_nothing]

I was being sarcastic with you. Somehow I just get the feeling you may have a hard time here on Meso. Here, we discourage sourcing through PM's and you seem destined to prove a point. Why? What is your point and what are your goals by going in this direction? Yes PM scamming does exist everywhere, but here we minimize it so new members are not exploited by fucking scammers.

i was simply commenting on what another member said earlier. @hardbodygirl was being accused of sourcing. my opinion is let's work harder on educating members about PM scamming and research on sources rather than trying so hard to out supposed PM sourcers

 

[FuriousWO]

If you want to be taken seriously then you should sit back and see how it works around here. OR this is an alt account and you already know how it works around here. Both I would say are frowned upon.
How do you know what happens in PM if you just got here. Something smells fishy with you

 

[FuriousWO]

i was simply commenting on what another member said earlier. @hardbodygirl was being accused of sourcing. my opinion is let's work harder on educating members about PM scamming and research on sources rather than trying so hard to out supposed PM sourcers

This site is about sharing information on sources good or bad, not letting them lurk in the shadows. So it's EXACTLY about outing PM sources by saying so, testing their gear, getting bloods done etc... All of this information is public. We are trying our best to protect our members and letting someone PM source here isn't in the best interest of Meso and its members

 

[I_know_nothing]

If you want to be taken seriously then you should sit back and see how it works around here. OR this is an alt account and you already know how it works around here. Both I would say are frowned upon.
How do you know what happens in PM if you just got here. Something smells fishy with you

i've lurked here quite a long time. have been holding my tongue for a long time, felt like it was finally about time i get involved and say something. as stated in @brutus79 's stickied thread, new members need to be welcomed not driven away. any opinion can find value in this forum. im trying to be a devil's advocate on some subjects and stir up some discussion.

i'm not really concerned if certain members take me seriously or not. judge me my the value of my contribution, not by the little title next to my name. whether members take me seriously or not is no matter to me, i'm going to state my opinions regardless. whether or not you want to participate is your prerogative.

 

[Mr.Bravo]

The only problem with educating newbs is that we can tell them all day long about pos scammers but they still buy, does that mean we should let them exist? Not on my watch

 

[FuriousWO]

Lurking is one thing but you can't know crap about what happens in PM without and account. And yours is apparently 7 hours old.

 

[I_know_nothing]

This site is about sharing information on sources good or bad, not letting them lurk in the shadows. So it's EXACTLY about outing PM sources by saying so, testing their gear, getting bloods done etc... All of this information is public. We are trying our best to protect our members and letting someone PM source here isn't in the best interest of Meso and its members

i agree, fuck backroom PM dealings. if you wanna sell come out and fucking make a thread. dont sell in secretly with little to no accountability. all i am saying is let's focus more efforts on prevention than reaction.

 

[FuriousWO]

i agree, fuck backroom PM dealings. if you wanna sell come out and fucking make a thread. dont sell in secretly with little to no accountability. all i am saying is let's focus more efforts on prevention than reaction.

Prevention starts with making it public or outing them as you say

 

[Mr.Bravo]

To add I dont believe that @brutus79 would say she was sourcing when she wasnt. Whats the true hollywood storie on this my man? What happend

 

[I_know_nothing]

Prevention starts with making it public or outing them as you say

No no I agree with that, maybe we're agreeing on the same thing but just looking at it differently. i'm saying rather then telling members "user a,b,c,d,e,f,etc etc are scammers dont buy from them" when the next day "user x,y,z" can pop up and start scamming, we should be telling new members "dont fucking buy over PM ever, that's shady ass shit" we may be agreeing on the same thing though, lemme know

 

[Ozzy619]

I see exactly where you're coming from and i'll say this one more time... i'm not sourcing by
PM! Does it sound any better this time i say it? I agree with you're analogy regarding more women on this site too... except how do you expect women are gonna want to be members on a site where they introduce themselves in the new members section.. and then 3 or 4 WKM's run them off by asking them to post "Vagi" shots? I mean really? Some of the neanderthal bullshit that is said, and that goes on around here, isn't very polite or in the very least bit dignified! Women are disrespected from get-go here by a few members that act like this is the fucking golf course at Augusta, Georgia... and women aren't at all welcome, or wanted! As few as 3 individual morons... think that they run this
entire board and speak for all its members? What a JOKE!

I had no idea members had asked women for vag shots. I think Meso is a higher caliber than other boards and stuff like that shouldnt take place. This site is predominantly male and there will be some Neanderthalic comments, but asking for vag shots is wrong. I know a few members such as @Oregongearhead and @pumpingiron22 would call people out in a heartbeat for that type of behavior. Meso does need serious women in bodybuilding and aas. Establish yourself and dont put up with that shit. People will flame and hate because youre a woman, but once youre here long enough Im sure it will die down.

 

[Flounder]

i dont give a shit if you're sourcing over PMs, im sure a fuckton of members do.

educate new members educate them to do their research and why PM sourcing is absolute bullshit.

Not sure I understand this contradiction? So it would be OK with you if Hardbodygirl PM sourced, but PM sourcing is absolute bullshit? Interesting. Seems you have a thing for Hardbodygirl. I wonder what the connection is.

 

[I_know_nothing]

The only problem with educating newbs is that we can tell them all day long about pos scammers but they still buy, does that mean we should let them exist? Not on my watch

i agree, fuck that backroom shit. but just because dumbasses still buy does that mean we dont try to educate them? no, we should still try. if we can prevent 9/10 new users from being scammed that's better than 0/10, 1/10, 2/10, etc etc

 

[I_know_nothing]

I had no idea members had asked women for vag shots. I think Meso is a higher caliber than other boards and stuff like that shouldnt take place. This site is predominantly male and there will be some Neanderthalic comments, but asking for vag shots is wrong. I know a few members such as @Oregongearhead and @pumpingiron22 would call people out in a heartbeat for that type of behavior. Meso does need serious women in bodybuilding and aas. Establish yourself and dont put up with that shit. People will flame and hate because youre a woman, but once youre here long enough Im sure it will die down.

i didn't see the supposed post about vag shots, so i didn't address it. but if it is true then it is 100% unacceptable. that's not how to welcome and treat new users, male or female

 

[insertnamehere]

i've lurked here quite a long time. have been holding my tongue for a long time, felt like it was finally about time i get involved and say something. as stated in @brutus79 's stickied thread, new members need to be welcomed not driven away. any opinion can find value in this forum. im trying to be a devil's advocate on some subjects and stir up some discussion.

i'm not really concerned if certain members take me seriously or not. judge me my the value of my contribution, not by the little title next to my name. whether members take me seriously or not is no matter to me, i'm going to state my opinions regardless. whether or not you want to participate is your prerogative.

Based on your posts thus far in this thread and in others, I think stirring things up is more of a priority than anything else for you right now. Even your handle is set in direct opposition to your bold approach on multiple topics.

If I had to make a decision, as to your intentions here, I would would say you're a troll. However, I'll refrain from judgement until you've had a chance to contribute.

 

[I_know_nothing]

Not sure I understand this contradiction? So it would be OK with you if Hardbodygirl PM sourced, but PM sourcing is absolute bullshit? Interesting. Seems you have a thing for Hardbodygirl. I wonder what the connection is.

let's not make unjustified assumptions. i said it was just me one this board i wouldnt give a shit. i will never buy anything over PM so PM me all you want, i aint buying shit. however as much as i am selfish fucker IRL, i do want to see change on this board and i hate seeing people get fucked over when they're trying to come on the glorious train which is gear. so do i care if people PM source me? fuck no go ahead. do i care if PM sources exist? fuck yes. will we be able to out every single PM source? fuck no. can we educate members as best as we can to prevent them from buying from PM sources? fuck yes

idk where the disconnect is between you and I @Flounder ?

 

[I_know_nothing]

Based on your posts thus far in this thread and in others, I think stirring things up is more of a priority than anything else for you right now. Even your handle is set in direct opposition to your bold approach on multiple topics.

If I had to make a decision, as to your intentions here, I would would say you're a troll. However, I'll refrain from judgement until you've had a chance to contribute.

lol are you referring to my username? i think ive made a few contributions that are worthwhile so far. im not here to please or impress anyone. im going to say my opinions and hope to get some discussion from it- good or bad. if a member cant say or talk about anything controversial or dissenting without being called a troll...what kind of forum would this be? just everyone jerking off each other to the same ideas? that's not how it should be, we need both sides of the argument to have clearer decisions

 

[insertnamehere]

lol are you referring to my username? i think ive made a few contributions that are worthwhile so far. im not here to please or impress anyone. im going to say my opinions and hope to get some discussion from it- good or bad. if a member cant say or talk about anything controversial or dissenting without being called a troll...what kind of forum would this be? just everyone jerking off each other to the same ideas? that's not how it should be, we need both sides of the argument to have clearer decisions

Is that why you decided to finally join the discussion? To provide the other side of the argument?