Sending AAS samples to independent, accredited laboratory in Europe

[greenddog1]

The 80-20 rule is a fact of life and it drives me crazy. In this case, members want proven factual results but 80% of the members also elect to not contribute to obtain this information. Hate to sound corny, but this knowledge is a freedom for us. The labs have always had the upper hand in this game and now the opportunity presents itself to alter the balance. Those that deem their $5 or $10 contribution is not warranted, then you need take up another lifestyle. This one is life altering. Physically and financially. Don’t know ‘bout you, Bub, but I value both and gratefully accept the cost of this freedom.

 

[ROB581211]

I know mine isn't much but I'll throw 10 bucks here and there when I can.

 

[bickel29]

I know mine isn't much but I'll throw 10 bucks here and there when I can.

Not to get too philosophical or too preachy, but always keep in mind that the real value of a man's contributions are not measured in the size of the contribution itself, but in what was sacrificed to give that contribution.

In other words, a millionaire who donates $1,000 is no more the giver than the man of lesser means who gives $10.

That said - let it be known that Millard and the AnabolicLab project gladly welcome $1,000 donations from millionaires!

Maybe we'll have a Meso Car Wash with shirtless BB'ers soaping down cars to raise money? There'd be a line of soccer moms in their mini vans lined up.

Or maybe a bake sale - @Oregongearhead in nothing more than an apron baking up the goods.

Wow, I really should erase this before hitting "post reply"..... nah.

 

[ROB581211]

Not to get too philosophical or too preachy, but always keep in mind that the real value of a man's contributions are not measured in the size of the contribution itself, but in what was sacrificed to give that contribution.

In other words, a millionaire who donates $1,000 is no more the giver than the man of lesser means who gives $10.

That said - let it be known that Millard and the AnabolicLab project gladly welcome $1,000 donations from millionaires!

Maybe we'll have a Meso Car Wash with shirtless BB'ers soaping down cars to raise money? There'd be a line of soccer moms in their mini vans lined up.

Or maybe a bake sale - @Oregongearhead in nothing more than an apron baking up the goods.

Wow, I really should erase this before hitting "post reply"..... nah.

Well I'm no millionaire that's for sure. But the way I see it we are in this one way or another if you use AAS so why not do what you can when you can. The more information we can get the better off all of us are

 

[grey]

Maybe we'll have a Meso Car Wash with shirtless BB'ers soaping down cars to raise money? There'd be a line of soccer moms in their mini vans lined up.

Or maybe a bake sale - @Oregongearhead in nothing more than an apron baking up the goods.

I think you could get a line of folks waiting but willing to bet the demographics are slightly different than you are thinking...

Hold it in SanFran and clean up! Pun intended.

 

[zombie]

Unfortunately I think that the bulk of the funding is going to fall onto the few. That said, I will gladly continue to fund this project. It would be nice if everyone that came to the underground to read about a source they are contemplating ordering from put a few bucks towards the project. Consider it pre-cycle therapy. I’m sure over time the funding will grow.

I googled “forums and anaboliclab.com” the other day and saw that a few members have been spreading the word. I would say that the overall response was pretty mixed. Quite a few were undecided as to what they thought about the program. Then there were the outright against the program, probably with an agenda. Then there were the people that were all for it and glad to see something like this start. Hopefully as word spreads funding will gain momentum.

A couple of the things people on the other forums asked about was getting the rest of the paperwork to check the validity of the test results and what was the actual purity. A lot of the same questions that we have had here at MESO.

 

[rpbb]

Maybe you could sell advertising to simec

 

[Boilermech]

$2000 donation!! Gotta give a little credit to Naps for standing up and helping in our cause.

 

[Millard]

Is it the potential identifiability (made that word up) of being associated with an AAS project that is keeping people from donating?

So I am curious as to what the reasons are for lack of financial support by some.

I am not only asking the guys who are NOT donating, but asking everyone in general. Why do we think more guys are not donating?

My leading hypothesis: I think many members are genuinely conflicted about supporting a program that has only posted what has been seen as favorable results for a handful of manufacturers and underground labs. Given the positive results thus far, they see a $1 for Anaboliclab as a $1 to promote those manufacturers. These members are inclined to support an independent lab testing program but they could never see themselves as in any way supporting the positive results of a given manufacturer in the first round of testing.

This is unfortunate and I hope members see beyond any internal conflict and recognize that donations to the AnabolicLab program are to support one thing only - the objective truth about the contents of underground AAS products.

I think this will be easier to do when AnabolicLab has tested 25+ or 50+ different manufacturers and underground labs with dozens of additional lab tests.

I remain optimistic

 

[Millard]

I was thinking the other day that maybe other forums,or members of other forums may see this as a bad project. Most of the traffic seems to be about lab discussions....... Once the results are out there, you lose most of the conversations on the boards discussing which labs are good or bad. A noob will join up and ask if such and such is 'g2g' and they'll be replied to with a link to anaboliclab.com.

The degree to which a forum's business model is dependent on promoting specific sources will likely indicate its willingness to support and promote AnabolicLab.com. Such source-dependent forums could justifiably see it as a very bad business decision to support any project that could potentially (1) expose poor quality products by any of its advertisers; or (2) introduce its visitors to vendors (other than its advertisers) whose products test favorably.

Either possibility would create outrage among the forums advertisers.

 

[Millard]

@Millard Baker maybe you can get @mugzy to push this on his sites. Not sure of the relationship there, but just a thought.

Any clout that I may have with other influential members in the community, I like to use sparingly. And rather than ask for favors based on personal trust, I prefer to present a project that convincingly speaks for itself.

I received some very good advice in this thread cautioning me to wait before I aggressively promote AnabolicLab.com on other websites. Rather than promote a program that has tested only 5 manufacturers/underground labs and only a few products with favorable results, the independence and objectivity of AnabolicLab.com will be more apparent when we have tested 25+ manufacturers and several additional AAS products. And when that happens, the likelihood that AnabolicLab.com will gain advocates from other respected and influential members in the community will increase dramatically.

 

[heady muscle]

Any clout that I may have with other influential members in the community, I like to use sparingly. And rather than ask for favors based on personal trust, I prefer to present a project that convincingly speaks for itself.

I received some very good advice in this thread cautioning me to wait before I aggressively promote AnabolicLab.com on other websites. Rather than promote a program that has tested only 5 manufacturers/underground labs and only a few products with favorable results, the independence and objectivity of AnabolicLab.com will be more apparent when we have tested 25+ manufacturers and several additional AAS products. And when that happens, the likelihood that AnabolicLab.com will gain advocates from other respected and influential members in the community will increase dramatically.

I should have known you had this covered!

 

[Melly Mel from hell]

Most of us think nothing of going out to lunch or dinner and dropping a $20 or drinking craft beer at $7 a pop. We buy gear at $30, $40, $50+ dollars as vial and wonder the whole time we're shooting it if it's bunk and when it is our whole cycle is wasted. How much did that cost?
Recently, many members were and are complaining about bunk dbol that was purchased. Add up collectively how much money was wasted on that.
$10 or $20 dollars a month on a program like AnabolicLab is priceless when you consider what it will save members in dollars and health risks on being able to make an educated unbiased decision on which UGL to purchase from. If you set up a recurring donation I doubt you will miss that $10 or $20. If you use this board in any way to research your next source you should donate. How can anyone justify spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on gear and supplements a year and not be able to give to this program which will most likely protect you from being scammed or injured.
Today is payday for me. I'm going to commit to a $20 monthly donation. Please join me.

 

[Millard]

$10 or $20 dollars a month on a program like AnabolicLab is priceless when you consider what it will save members in dollars and health risks on being able to make an educated unbiased decision on which UGL to purchase from. If you set up a recurring donation I doubt you will miss that $10 or $20. If you use this board in any way to research your next source you should donate. How can anyone justify spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on gear and supplements a year and not be able to give to this program which will most likely protect you from being scammed or injured.

I would love to see as little as a $5 to $10 monthly donation for every $1000 spent annually on AAS/hGH/PEDs as an inexpensive investment in the health and safety of to entire community. If this happened, the AnabolicLab program would never be short of funding.

 

[johnnyrotten94]

Finally set up my recurring donation for this awesome cause! Sorry it took so long @Millard Baker! But, better late than never! Lol proud to be a part of it!

 

[pharmacist]

I commited to this cause too. Monthly. And will keep doing it because I believe in it. I have nothing to prove or to show and I do not benefit in any way from it but its a project that can get huge benefits to the community!

 

[Boilermech]

I commited to this cause too. Monthly. And will keep doing it because I believe in it. I have nothing to prove or to show and I do not benefit in any way from it but its a project that can get huge benefits to the community!

On the contrary good sir, you do benefit from donating to this cause. You benefit more respect from all of us. If more respect for you is even possible [emoji4]
Thank you for your contribution.

 

[rpbb]

one of the senior moderators over at sf thinks it's a great program

 

[pumpingiron22]

I will donate as soon as i get paid. Thank you Millard I think this is a awesome program.
And has taken a life time to get up and running. I saddens me that some do not like this,
But its truth. I think this program will get to the root of the problem (The Chinese)

 

[rpbb]

I will donate as soon as i get paid. Thank you Millard I think this is a awesome program.
And has taken a life time to get up and running. I saddens me that some do not like this,
But its truth. I think this program will get to the root of the problem (The Chinese)

always great to see people donating their hard earned money to the program. not easy for alot of people