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Alright @Roger rabbit, @Apexvallen here are the test results. My test is up very nicely. Unfortunately so is my Estradiol. I have no gyno symptoms but because it is so high I'm going to adjust my aromisin to 12.5 eod. What do you guys think? 20161205_120931.png 20161205_121052.png
 
Is this estro high based on pre bloods? Or you just feel it's high?

You do know that elevated estrogen helps build muscle. Right?


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Yes I do know that estro helps build muscle. But it does seem to be quite a bit out of range. I was thinking that double my base would be about right in levels. So to me this seems high. But based on no symptoms am I just jumping the gun a little bit?
 
If you have pre bloods, doubling your estro base is a good place. If it's a little higher and you want it down it won't be a big deal.

Where people go wrong, is when they want to see their estro at the low normal range. It is like, why even cycle of you aren't going to use it to the max...


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I agree double for me would put me in the 46 range so at this level I'm triple my base. So I'm not overly worried but Id like to get it down some then in about 3 weeks take another test and adjust again if necessary. I'm pretty sure that 12.5 aromisin eod will do it.
 
Most people prefer estro between 30-60 while on cycle, but thats good numbers overrall. The Test is completely legit.
Liver values are high too. I thought you weren't on an oral.
 
That's strange why it would be high, because I'm not running any orals. I also don't drink or use recreational drugs at all.
 
It definitely makes me happy considering my base was so low. Definitely going to have even more fun in the gym tomorrow. I've been pushing it alot as is but seeing the numbers kind of give the confidence a boost as well.
 
Well everything is shaping up good today. Had a good workout. Got to the gym early and pretty much lifted till I couldn't anymore. Good day, good times.
 
Another solid week in. Had a couple bad days when it came to my diet but overall it's going well. At times at this point I hate food. It gets difficult to eat so much sometimes but I would say that I hit my goal at least 5 times per week. Upped my aromisin will get bloods again in a couple of weeks to make sure my levels are down some and that I'm not overdoing it.
 
Sorry I haven't logged in a couple of days. Been super busy with this holiday. I was locked up for along time and stopped caring about all holidays. But now that I have a family I have to care so they at least enjoy it. Anyways everything is running smooth. Last week I took four doses of aromisin at 12.5 and I am going to do that again this week then drop it down to only taking it on pin days. Once the holidays are over I'll get some more bloods done. This should be within two weeks so I can see where my Estradiol levels are.
 
Sorry I haven't logged in a few days. I ended up getting the worst chest flu I ever had in my life. I was in bed for 5 days, couldn't eat or anything finally got through it yesterday and got back to the gym today. Still got crap in my lungs but I was able to breathe well enough to lift. Lost about 5 lbs while I was sick thought it would have been more but it still feels like a set back.
 
I caught a little sinus/respitory problem myself. A quick steroid shot at urgent care, some prednisone, and some antibiotics and I was good as new. Put me behind two days but that's it. This NPP is a motherfucker! First time I've ever ran any type of Deca and this shit is just as I've always read, I'm blown away by the thickness & density of the muscle. Packs on the beef no doubt. I actually cut back from 300mg/wk to 200/wk. I'm a thick, broad guy Naturally and didn't want to go all tree trunk. Kept the T-P at 300/wk & T-C at 100/wk(my normal cruise is 150/wk pharma). I'm adding the Eq in starting tomorrow starting at 200/wk(??) for the remainder of the run with a little Primo & Mast to close it out the last 4 wks. Been keeping an eye on your thread though, cramps. Keep updating.
 
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I caught a little sinus/respitory problem myself. A quick steroid shot at urgent care, some prednisone, and some antibiotics and I was good as new. Put me behind two days but that's it. This NPP is a motherfucker! First time I've ever ran any type of Deca and this shit is just as I've always read, I'm blown away by the thickness & density of the muscle. Packs on the beef no doubt. I actually cut back from 300mg/wk to 200/wk. I'm a thick, broad guy Naturally and didn't want to go all tree trunk. Kept the T-P at 300/wk & T-C at 100/wk(my normal cruise is 150/wk pharma). I'm adding the Eq in starting tomorrow starting at 200/wk(??) for the remainder of the run with a little Primo & Mast to close it out the last 4 wks. Been keeping an eye on your thread though, cramps. Keep updating.
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I ran some deca in the 90s. But this npp is definitely a upgrade. My muscles are very dense and solid. Really I'd like to extend this cycle but I need to do some research and see if it is safe and worth it. We have the same body type. I was 238 when I started this cycle and I'm up to 254 and I'm under 20% body fat. I did shoulders today and pushed 365 for my shrugs and 110 for arnolds.
 
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