Methyl Mike
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What about long cycles with the occasional blast here and there?
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playforfun
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Well my "blast" would be the 300/300 for 24 weeks probably once a year prepping for summer and the rest of the year I would just go back down to TRT dosages.
Methyl Mike
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Whatever works
5 mg of anavar? Ok…. Yea sure. For 24 weeks? Perfect. That should work great.
Turn off MPMD. That jackass isn’t giving advice. He’s monetizing his own form of entertainment.
And it’s great to have yet another new guy that aromatizes a lot. Join the club of new dudes that are petrified of testosterone.
Methyl Mike
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You say the things we are thinking but are too afraid we will hurt someone's feelings if we say them. Yet, you aren't an asshole when you say them. Thats a refined skill.
Connor 25257
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I think his content has become so focused on preserving your hair that it’s gotten overkill. Yea, I like what hair I have left too. But if it’s gonna go, then it’s gonna go thankfully mine is still thick even after using harsh compounds. Steroids only speed it up. I get that he also advocates for safe PED use, buuuuuut you only have but so many good cycles in the tank. If you don’t go way overboard like a moron and run Tren for 20-30 weeks, then I think you’ll be fine. Take advantage of those cycles-then go on TRT. If people are afraid of testosterone; then I’d hate to see their reaction when you bring up something like Tren
Methyl Mike
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MPMD was cool when he put out videos he put effort into. Now he's just cranking out the volume and its all crap. I haven't sat thru an entire video of his in ages.
playforfun
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Nice to meet you too!
I listen to multiple sources when I'm learning not just one person.
And no, I'm still deciding how I will incorporate the anavar; I was thinking maybe the last 12 weeks (the goal is 12 weeks total) or split it into 4 week intervals or just take it on upper body days cause lets be honest those days are the ones that matter the most lol. I want to run low dosage first to see what my bloods are before I add or increase anything else, I might just do the first 4 weeks without anavar then get bloods then 4 weeks with then check and if they come back healthy I can potentially increase it to an even higher dose next 4 weeks.
I'm all about the "healthier" approach and start at small dosages then build up from there, I do aromatize like crazy not sure if you're being sarcastic or not but for example my last bloods I was at 102pg/ml e2 (sensitive testing), 1101ng/dl Total T, 350pg/ml Free T and this is was only on 140mg of Test Cyp every week while pinning E3D.
I'm now trying EOD see if I can get my e2 down while trying to avoid having to take an AI, I'm not even sure if I would want my e2 to get down to 40, I don't seem to have crazy e2 sides but I wonder if I would feel better at a lower range.
Anyways, I always think it's better to start small there is no harm and if markers come back healthy I can slowly increase and then rinse and repeat until I find my limit. When I first started TRT I was uneducated and listened to the Doc, well who knew that pinning once a week would make me break out in terrible cystic acne all over my body and blindly taking an AI; so yes after having a terrible experience like this I will always play the safe side.
EDIT: yes my diet is good and NO I'm not fat I sit at 10-12% BF
Connor 25257
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When I first came to meso I thought he was just a dick, but as time went on I saw that he had good intentions. Especially when it comes to holding some of these sources accountable especially in a testing aspect. I’ve learned a lot from him, plus he made me feel much more at ease with a source I order from thanks to keeping this source accountable for constantly testing raws and finished oils. Haven’t had any issues with the source itself since I’ve been ordering
Methyl Mike
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He is a sterling representative of our community.
Cystic acne is caused by DHT fluctuations, not estrogen.
I’m all for starting low dose but Anavar at 5 mg a day is a joke. That’s a dose a woman would start with. And the only reason they run it that low is so they don’t end up with a big swinging clit.
How did you determine 10% to 12%? Now the question will be do you have muscle on that frame or are you waifish?
The Vigorous Steve longer cycle being better makes sense the way he outlined it, but try that from a practical perspective. Are you going to be disciplined enough over a 24 week period (fuck me, that’s almost half a year) to get the most out of that? It sounds great until you do it and realize that by week 12-14 you fucking beat your body to shit and you need a break. Now imagine trudging on for another 10-12 weeks.
There’s a reason cycles have been run the way they have - they fucking work. There’s no re-inventing the wheel.
What ends up happening is you laid out this plan. You’re enthusiastic. You cracked the code. You’re on your way to being a guru. Then you don’t eat because you’re deathly afraid of losing your abs, so you don’t grow. You bop around the gym slinging weight around going thru the motions so there’s no progressive overload. And after 8 weeks you’ll start a thread here talking about being a “low responder” or a “hard gainer”. You’ll brag about “killing it”. Gym is your life and you workout for 2 hours/7 days a week.
Save it and join Zumba.
Steroids aren’t for guys that want to weigh 170 lbs and look “shredded” for the beach. If you don’t want to put on “too much mass” then why waste money on this stuff? And why do you all insist on coming here to MESO all at once. I swear to god all you new guys are just the one dude burning thru multiple handles and driving us crazy.
FuarkAll
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Are you going to answer my question??? You’ve been waiting on these GH results for a very long time. Where are those test results?!?! @TripleBSolutions
playforfun
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Hey! I understand your reasoning, I get it you probably see guys come and go all the time so you assume everyone will be the same which a majority probably do fit under that description.
I won't try to defend my work ethic or my purpose for AAS as everyone has their opinion on this but I know my determination and my track record as far as fitness goes, I will say though I'm a smaller statured person sitting at a 5'5 stance lol so 170lbs on me at sub 10% BF would be fucking sick AF and honestly that is my ideal target range, I currently fluctuate from 155-160lbs 10-12% BF and already train year round so I don't see why I would personally burn out if I will be training regardless.
To me the money is nothing; it's not even expensive if ran at smaller dosages at what I'm wanting to run.
As far as 5mg anavar, It's what Steve recommended for long term use he didn't really mention if he took it for the entire 24 weeks straight but I figure as long as bloods are in healthy marker range then why not but I want to get a base without the anavar then with to see what a safe dose is for me.
As far as DHT, I actually had mine in the lower range but I agree I think any fluctuation of hormones is the cause of cystic acne which is why I'm experimenting with more frequent pinning for more stable bloods and then once I see how my body reacts I will slowly increase my dosages to see what my body can tolerate before I get any sides.
I welcome any advice on a good 24 week cycle would look like, but for me this cycle is to give me that push and fast track me to my ideal physique I mean isn't that why anybody takes AAS? Once I get there I hope to maintain it with TRT dosages.
Lol. I nailed the profile eh?
Methyl Mike
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Fellas let me tell you what having your testosterone thru the roof is really like
When you see this at the gym and do a double take
Thats when you know your test is high
When you see this at the gym and do a double take
Thats when you know your test is high
Iron_Yuppie
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Because we have loads of data, ranging from clinical all the way down to user anecdotes, and they all say the exact same thing about anavar and the safety of the drug at various doses. 5mg will be approximately the same as 0mg, except one of those costs you money and the other is free. If you want to be safe then by all means start at 25mg. That’s about the floor for an effect dose for a male. There’s very little reason to go above 50mg, so now you’ve got a set range based on evidence and not some strange fear of the safest methylated oral available to us. For some perspective I was prescribed anavar at 50mg/d for 100 days. Note that I said prescribed. As in a licensed physician in the United States gave me that and was unconcerned about the safety of either the dose or the duration. And ftr my blood work looked pretty much the same as it did before using anavar. Lipids got hit a little, but otherwise everything was fine.
Methyl Mike
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BBBG from what I have seen actually reads long posts from guys like you and has a very fine eye for small details. He gives everyone benefit of the doubt, and a few moments of his time, for free. Then if you look deeper into what he says he actually throws you a helpful bone and sees what you do with it.
Methyl Mike
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Athlete127
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5 mg anavar? You getting ready for a bikini shoot ?
Methyl Mike
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Harm reduction is serious business!
