Understanding DNP practice

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Hey everyone. One of my students (Niroshan) and I are trying to understand the practice of DNP in bodybuilding. Can you please help by correcting or adding to the below? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Sorry it is so long but we want to understand properly. Feel free to only answer part.


1. What substances should you and shouldn’t you use with DNP?

(a) What shouldn’t you use with DNP? We’ve heard alcohol, illicit drugs like ecstasy, any others? Certain AASs?

(b) What should you or do you use with DNP? Certain AASs? pre-workouts? other fat loss supplements?

2. How do you practice DNP?

From my understanding you should:

(a) probably start with a low dose first (i.e. 200mg) and slowly increase after a minimum of 4 days if you need more, up to a maximum dose around 600-800mg.

(b) not be on DNP for more than 10 days.

(c) eat mostly fat and protein, avoiding carbohydrates where possible, to avoid excessive heat.

(d) avoid using DNP before sleep so that you don’t get night sweats.

(e) use air-conditioning and cold showers to stay cool.

Is this correct? How does this align with your practices? Is there anything I missed that you might do to reduce risk?


3. What is your understanding of DNP in terms of:

(a) how it works in the body?

(b) risks and side effects?

 

[Dead]

Look at what you guys say and she likes it??!! There is so much BS I don't even comment on and you guys swallow.

Did you guys think about this? Oxygen will light on fire too you know? And I would say oxygen is pretty good for you.

Mair will probably write in her ANTHRO(not medicine) report "AAS users have become so dumb they believe that if a substance will ignite it is bad for you."

Also, all food burns, that's how we get the kJoules.

Oh look u have 5000 messages and 1000 likes whoops! Wasting my time here

In fact maybe u are an emo homo the way ur crying about how mair said ur homo

 

[Dead]

Can you please explain the logic of your methodology?

I’ll donate money to the board just to shut ur stupid ass up already

Drop the tren u clearly can’t handle it

 

[Sworder]

Oh look u have 5000 messages and 1000 likes whoops! Wasting my time here

In fact maybe u are an emo homo the way ur crying about how mair said ur homo

You can't admit that it was an incredibly stupid statement? I guess that is the problem. We can't even admit to say stupid shit and have to defend it until the end of time?

Say, "Yeah that was pretty dumb" and be done with it. I say a lot of stupid stuff too.

You are attacking me, I attack your posts.

Yes, when we switched the User system I lost a lot of my likes. Bear in mind I have been here a while.. Not that it matters how many likes I have anyway??

 

[Dead]

You can't admit that it was an incredibly stupid statement? I guess that is the problem. We can't even admit to say stupid shit and have to defend it until the end of time?

Say, "Yeah that was pretty dumb" and be done with it. I say a lot of stupid stuff too.

You are attacking me, I attack your posts.

Quiet bitch boy no more words from you. I never attacked u first idiot. Lol

 

[Sworder]

Quiet bitch boy no more words from you. I never attacked u first idiot. Lol

Yeah exactly, you are not understanding the difference between attacking a person and a post.
Have fun.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Anything that could cause an increase in body temp.

can you please give examples of these things that increase body temperature (for a social scientist that really knows very little about how bodies work)?

once the drug has become saturated in your system.

how long does it take to saturate your system and how do you know?

Avoiding carbs at night is more important than the dosing.

excuse my ignorance by why is this important?

thanks in advance

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Maybe you could produce a research paper on the long term effects of how PED's make some people assholes by mediation of the asshole receptors in the frontal cortex of the brain.

Unfortunately I am a social scientist (anthropologist) but I am starting to collaborate more with medicos (e.g. just submitted a paper on insulin use in bodybuilding that I wrote with an endocrinologist) so maybe I can find someone to help me with this watch this space

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Those who aren't up for having you here can have more dignity in their responses than whatever was said to you or not respond at all if they choose. You don't appear to be a threat and are more than likely quite the opposite to the AAS community as a whole IMO.
I'm only one member here but there are others who are glad you're doing the work your doing.

It is my dream that those without anything productive to add could resist attacking me or others that do have something to say, but i have come to expect this kind of behaviour (which is sad IMHO).
I really appreciate your support and feel privileged to work with those of you who are open to increasing understanding.

 

[Dead]

Yeah exactly, you are not understanding the difference between attacking a person and a post.
Have fun.

Oh you’re still talking

 

[Sworder]

Oh you’re still talking

Yes, I will typically keep a conversation going. I am here to talk and learn. I have lived in another country and we say that if we do something stupid we "give ourselves." Basically saying, don't be afraid to laugh at yourself.

You still don't want to admit that was a stupid idea?

Considering that you have BB and BA in your gear that you inject? You drink alcohol that is explosive and your air is filled with lungs from explosive oxygen? I could go through the periodic table of elements and point out which ones we have in the human body and which ones will ignite when lit with a match. Some elements create crazy strong reactions too.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Considering all the homosexuality that Mair is reporting

one guy who likes to give brojobs in 4 years of working with bodybuilders. ain't really a lot of homosexuality IMHO. I have been told brojobs are more common than that but am yet to find even a second guy. I am very well aware that the majority of bodybuilders do not participate in the practice. I'm just keen to talk to those who do as I think it interesting. i have never, and will never, say it is a common practice among bodybuilders because that would not be true. my paper on brojobs is likely to be largely about them as an element of humour with some tentative suggestions of the link to 'no homo', 'yes homo' and other instances of ironic heterosexual recuperation that are found among some members (again not the majority) of the bodybuilding community

 

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can you please give examples of these things that increase body temperature (for a social scientist that really knows very little about how bodies work)?



how long does it take to saturate your system and how do you know?



excuse my ignorance by why is this important?

thanks in advance

Look mair ur going to get better information researching the half life, guides on using dnp etc sure members are going to give some quality info but no ones a walking dictionary, ur gonna have a bitch of a time picking up scraps from what people say.

Idk what they other guy was saying about oxygen exploding. But if you put dnp on the ground and light it on fire it’ll pop like a firecracker, scary to think it’s something you’d ingest

 

[Sworder]

one guy who likes to give brojobs in 4 years of working with bodybuilders. ain't really a lot of homosexuality IMHO.

Well right now you are minimizing the negative connotation of what your reports include. Bear in mind that I did listen to your full interview and Brojobs and that homosexuality/metrosexuality(you mentioned a new term what was that?)

If it was only one guy then you overrepresented it in your radio interview.

It is my dream that those without anything productive to add could resist attacking me or others that do have something to say

Is that really what you dream about?

 

[Dead]

Yes, I will typically keep a conversation going. I am here to talk and learn. I have lived in another country and we say that if we do something stupid we "give ourselves." Basically saying, don't be afraid to laugh at yourself.

You still don't want to admit that was a stupid idea?

Considering that you have BB and BA in your gear that you inject? You drink alcohol that is explosive and your air is filled with lungs from explosive oxygen? I could go through the periodic table of elements and point out which ones we have in the human body and which ones will ignite when lit with a match. Some elements create crazy strong reactions too.

Fair point, but it’s scary to think dnp will literally pop like a firecracker and stain the ground yellow and people are eating it to cause fat loss. It is USED in the manufacturing of explosives

 

[Sworder]

Fair point, but it’s scary to think dnp will literally pop like a firecracker and stain the ground yellow and people are eating it to cause fat loss. It is USED in the manufacturing of explosives

You can't admit that something was stupid and then keep making an argument for it.

It doesn't matter if it can explode or not. Tons of things explode. Alcohol!

 

[Dead]

Yes, I will typically keep a conversation going. I am here to talk and learn. I have lived in another country and we say that if we do something stupid we "give ourselves." Basically saying, don't be afraid to laugh at yourself.

You still don't want to admit that was a stupid idea?

Considering that you have BB and BA in your gear that you inject? You drink alcohol that is explosive and your air is filled with lungs from explosive oxygen? I could go through the periodic table of elements and point out which ones we have in the human body and which ones will ignite when lit with a match. Some elements create crazy strong reactions too.

So ur entire point is dnp is safe because just like alcohol it is flammable? I was just saying it seems scary to ingest such a compound.

This is a pointless argument. The fact of the matter is dnp shouldn’t be used under any circumstance. That was my point. You are picking words to argue on because of whatever else u are upset about like u have been from ur first post

 

[Sworder]

So ur entire point is dnp is safe because just like alcohol it is flammable? I was just saying it seems scary to ingest such a compound.

No, that is not my point.

My point is that it is unfair to say that DNP is dangerous because it can explode. It is dangerous for other reasons.

 

[Dead]

No, that is not my point.

My point is that it is unfair to say that DNP is dangerous because it can explode. It is dangerous for other reasons.

Oh my god my point went further than it explodes don’t take it <that was an add on

This is exhausting I don’t care eat all the yellow explosive pills that u want enjoy urself. Sprinkle some on ur tuna.

 

[Sworder]

Oh my god my point went further than it explodes don’t take it <that was an add on

Okay well now we have cleared that up

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Look mair ur going to get better information researching the half life, guides on using DNP etc sure members are going to give some quality info but no ones a walking dictionary, ur gonna have a bitch of a time picking up scraps from what people say.

The student I am working with is more of a medico than me so I am leaving it to him to deal with the pharmacology side of things. I am involved because I have some access to and rapport with the community. We were hoping to understand what informs the range of practices. getting a bit of info in between the bs and it can be a bit difficult as you say, but there really is no other way to do what I do than to engage with the community. As Sworder said I am an anthropologist and we conduct participant observation in the communities we are studying. i can always use the bs some are speaking for a separate paper on interacting with the community (juxtaposed of course with the wonderful reception and support I receive from others)