Who is our biggest, most shredded member at Meso?

Dense as ever, but someday you will learn.... Nonetheless, I wish you well.

"Feeling" good doesn't really mean a thing... Being healthy will yield better results... I hope you don't learn that lesson the hard way.
No no, took me wrong. I meant the other way around! I feel so good being off, so why change that and start adding in compounds when I know I’m growing healthily right now. I get a little wild but long term matters.
 
No no, took me wrong. I meant the other way around! I feel so good being off, so why change that and start adding in compounds when I know I’m growing healthily right now. I get a little wild but long term matters.
Good to hear... I feel much, much, healthier when I take time off and don't just murder my body with training and dieting, too. Obviously pain and suffering are part of the process, but overdoing certain things can set you back...
 
Who are you? What did you do with wunderpus?;)
Haha, the only thing I've tried to keep constant is my desire to learn... I've learned many things over the last year or so about health. Man, I feel and look better than I ever have... with less gear and just an overal better quality of life. Still have MUCH to learn! But this chapter has been good!
 
Heres another example. Two guys same height same weight.
-Larry wheels 6'1 260ish offseason. Lean as hell. Doesnt appear to be much fat on him. Looks great!
-Cedric McMillan 6'1 260ish stage ready.
Equal lvl competitors in each chosen sport. But one is WAY more visually impressive compared to the other. Not taking anything away from Larry at all. But this is not a matter of opinion. It just IS.
Why is that?
Larry is lean as hell already. Both have different approaches to training. One trains heavy like a PL and the other trains like a bodybuilder.
Why is there such a massive difference?

The density of muscle PL guys have is higher. At least that's the only logical answer to me as to why two guys can have the same weight and one appear larger on similar frames.

It would be interesting to see the results of something like a Super League laser measurement comparison of the two guys...

By definition, the guy who is smaller by volume of total measurement IS denser though. Willing to wager a substantial bit that is partially due to several additional pounds of bone matter internal to any heavy PL guy with a long history.

PL folks can and do develop physical oddities that are far outside the norm due to the outrageously high habitual longitudinal loading of the skeleton etc...

Same for even recreational lifters sometimes... Rippetoe had a middle aged female who was examined repeatedly because the docs felt hardened lumps in her abdomen. Finally an MRI showed that what they were palpitating were very large, well defined, rock hard ab muscles from years of PL training under a nice layer of middle aged pudge.

I don't know the accuracy of it, but when I got my IGF-1 tested last year I got an anti aging panel that included bone density. Mine was several points out of range on the high side.
 
an anti aging panel that included bone density.
Pretty interesting, jibes with other anecdotal I have seen...

They did this via DEXA or through some other method?

Generally DEXA scan folks can tell just from the bone density if someone is lifting. Seen a few YT dude get scans with amusing reactions from the techs about how much denser their bones are than the people they normally see.


Would give serious money to be able to go back in time and get scans of my wife and I before lifting and compare to now.
 
Pretty interesting, jibes with other anecdotal I have seen...

They did this via DEXA or through some other method?

Generally DEXA scan folks can tell just from the bone density if someone is lifting. Seen a few YT dude get scans with amusing reactions from the techs about how much denser their bones are than the people they normally see.


Would give serious money to be able to go back in time and get scans of my wife and I before lifting and compare to now.

It was just part of the blood test, that's why I said I didn't know the accuracy of it. It was called "Z Score" and I looked it up and it said it was bone density. My level was 3 and I think the range was -1 to 1.
 
It was just part of the blood test, that's why I said I didn't know the accuracy of it. It was called "Z Score" and I looked it up and it said it was bone density. My level was 3 and I think the range was -1 to 1.


ah... so, pretty sure that particular use of "Z-score" is the minority use case and does NOT refer to bone density here but rather which Sigma slice your IGF1 score resides in. Uses this very simple calculation:

https://www.endocrinesciences.com/services/tools/calculator-igf1

Purely a statistical thing for IGF-1.

To my knowledge (I am routinely wrong) there is no blood test available that will render a bone density result.
 
ah... so, pretty sure that particular use of "Z-score" is the minority use case and does NOT refer to bone density here but rather which Sigma slice your IGF1 score resides in. Uses this very simple calculation:

https://www.endocrinesciences.com/services/tools/calculator-igf1

Purely a statistical thing for IGF-1.

To my knowledge (I am routinely wrong) there is no blood test available that will render a bone density result.

That makes more sense. I couldn't imagine how they'd determine bone density from a blood test alone.
 
How depleted do you guys tend to get during a cut? God, I feel like I’m half my size right now. Feels so depressing.

Want to start seeing these cuts already so I can feel better, haha. So far my stomach fat seems to be going first. Not much else rn.
 
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