Who is our biggest, most shredded member at Meso?

I think it's an excellent approach bro. Not critiquing at all. Like I said, it's really close to my own personal protocol. Everyone struggles with some aspect of the lifestyle. Getting peeled is easy for some and an act of god for others. Adding quality size and thickness a whole other animal. Endless pursuit of unobtainable perfection. We are all insane by some people's standards. :)

Honestly, I totally get the tren thing from a personality/health perspective. I stay away from tren as long as I can also during prep but it's for the mental and health reasons not a peaking protocol.

Tren makes me miserable/mental on so many levels but it works so damn good during prep it's just a necessary evil.
No man I know you are a good. I didn’t take it that way at all. I totally agree with the tren how it makes me feel. I get crazy night sweats. I turn into a person I don’t even know. Some of the shit I did I on tren I don’t even know who that person was it’s crazy some of things it makes you think and do. I’m a totally different person on. I’ve tried doing 12 weeks one, not smart. I became a wreck. Now I like to just use it for prep.

I’m glad you get it about the whole perfection thing. It’s what pushes up. I can look fat one day and skinny the next. It’s something most people will never understand unless you are insane like you said. I tell people I was 126 pounds when I got married at 24 I was skin and bones but I thought I was the shit! I would take my shirt off all day. Now I’m like man I look fat I can’t take my shirt off. I feel
A show fucks you up more because you have this amazing body which you can sustain for too long and you see pictures of yourself during the process and think damn can’t wait to be ripped like that again but then it totally mind fucks you.
 
No man I know you are a good. I didn’t take it that way at all. I totally agree with the tren how it makes me feel. I get crazy night sweats. I turn into a person I don’t even know. Some of the shit I did I on tren I don’t even know who that person was it’s crazy some of things it makes you think and do. I’m a totally different person on. I’ve tried doing 12 weeks one, not smart. I became a wreck. Now I like to just use it for prep.

I’m glad you get it about the whole perfection thing. It’s what pushes up. I can look fat one day and skinny the next. It’s something most people will never understand unless you are insane like you said. I tell people I was 126 pounds when I got married at 24 I was skin and bones but I thought I was the shit! I would take my shirt off all day. Now I’m like man I look fat I can’t take my shirt off. I feel
A show fucks you up more because you have this amazing body which you can sustain for too long and you see pictures of yourself during the process and think damn can’t wait to be ripped like that again but then it totally mind fucks you.

Yep, you're definitely screwed like the rest of us. LOL. They call it body dis-morphia, I call it being my own worst critic. It happens on every level. You see the pros that won't/don't post progress pics even if it costs them fans and contracts. They are the same way, never happy with what they see unless it's show day.

It's all in our head because honestly, no one really gives 2 shits what any of us look like and it doesn't go away. It's just as bad if not worse as you get older.

Try high dose tren A (1000-1250 mgs/week) and anadrol (100-150 mgs ED) together sometime. You'll be lucky if no one dies and you end up in prison. I really don't know how I didn't actually kill someone during that 6 weeks. Lord knows, I really thought about it more than once and I'm usually pretty laid back.
 
Crazy lean/hard for 14 weeks out bro and still carrying some good thickness.

You should be able to grow into the show. Be aware though, there is such a thing as peaking too early so tread carefully moving forward.

I was going to ask this in it's own thread, but you kind of led in to it. When should I be peaking, especially IRT bf. I want to get down to 5ish, but I also read you can't be below 6% for too long because of it being essential fat...

Also thanks, I'm not too worried about peaking yet, I haven't even started my real pre-contest cycle yet
 
I was going to ask this in it's own thread, but you kind of led in to it. When should I be peaking, especially IRT bf. I want to get down to 5ish, but I also read you can't be below 6% for too long because of it being essential fat...

Also thanks, I'm not too worried about peaking yet, I haven't even started my real pre-contest cycle yet

I'm no expert by any stretch, but be careful if u plan to get much leaner with the flu going around like it is.

Catching a virus like that when you're low single body fat can be devastating, if not deadly...

U look fucking awesome tho btw. Definitely gonna be a force to be reckoned with having another 14 weeks to work with before comp
 
I was going to ask this in it's own thread, but you kind of led in to it. When should I be peaking, especially IRT bf. I want to get down to 5ish, but I also read you can't be below 6% for too long because of it being essential fat...

Also thanks, I'm not too worried about peaking yet, I haven't even started my real pre-contest cycle yet

That's part of peaking too early (dropping into a BF% that can't be maintained for long before your body has a negative response). I'd just recommend to take it slow moving forward.

You're in uncharted territory for your body now so this when everything really does matter to some extent. There is no right or wrong, just take it slow, don't make drastic changes so your body's response is limited and can be manipulated if things start to go the wrong way.

You're good to go and honestly, probably leaner right now than 98% of the contestants that will be in your show most likely. With some more time for your skin to tighten up in the last to go areas and some water manipulation conditioning won't be a an issue.
 
Sitting 12 weeks out today , and officially going into prep mode ! 226 this morning down from 235 a couple weeks ago last time i checked in ...20180208_170705.jpg 20180208_171039.jpg looking(shitty) flat and watery because i did another little quick 12 day dnp run , but ill get a better idea what im working with in another week or so once I fill back out a little and drop the water .
 
Sitting 12 weeks out today , and officially going into prep mode ! 226 this morning down from 235 a couple weeks ago last time i checked in ...View attachment 84858 View attachment 84859 looking(shitty) flat and watery because i did another little quick 12 day dnp run , but ill get a better idea what im working with in another week or so once I fill back out a little and drop the water .

You and I are in the same boat. I did a 14 days low dose DNP run that ended the 4th. I was 16 weeks out from my “warm up show”on the 5th. Water retention, flat and what I call being “soft around the edges” deflates my ego just a tad every time I look in the mirror. Then I sigh and tell myself to trust the process. This part always sucks.

This week is basically a treading water “wait for the damn DNP water and crap to go away” week of implementing my phase 1 fat burners and some slight diet changes and nothing else.

So you’re not alone bro. Take solace in the fact that even in your current condition you’re better than 95% of the guys on MESO.
 
You and I are in the same boat. I did a 14 days low dose DNP run that ended the 4th. I was 16 weeks out from my “warm up show”on the 5th. Water retention, flat and what I call being “soft around the edges” deflates my ego just a tad every time I look in the mirror. Then I sigh and tell myself to trust the process. This part always sucks.

This week is basically a treading water “wait for the damn DNP water and crap to go away” week of implementing my phase 1 fat burners and some slight diet changes and nothing else.

So you’re not alone bro. Take solace in the fact that even in your current condition you’re better than 95% of the guys on MESO.
Lol yeah I know exactly how you feel , I hate it too ! But id rather get it out of the way now and start out in shooting distance then be in a situation 4-5 weeks out where i gotta cut my calories to low or do excessive cardio.

Its funny because you know exactly how its gonna make you look when your on it , but you still get bummed out everytime you watch that "pop" disappear from your physique lol

And thank you brother , thats one hell of compliment ! Much appreciated!
 
Man I don’t see how you stay so lean! No way I’m posting any pics of my fat ass after that, lol.
I cleaned my diet up for like 10 days and lost too much. I cheated twice last weekend. My dude at the gym who’s doing my diet said man did you start your albuteol yet I said no lol. Just test npp can’t wait for th tren mast and winny
 
@rutman and @size26s send me a pm with any NPC national qualifying shows you know of in June in your surrounding areas. I know you guys did the same show last year so we are all in a reasonable distance of each other.

I'm still not decided on which qualifier I'm going to do. Any info you guys have on one (decent shows) I'd appreciate it. I may do one around my warm up show or I may wait until later in the year.
 
@rutman and @size26s send me a pm with any NPC national qualifying shows you know of in June in your surrounding areas. I know you guys did the same show last year so we are all in a reasonable distance of each other.

I'm still not decided on which qualifier I'm going to do. Any info you guys have on one (decent shows) I'd appreciate it. I may do one around my warm up show or I may wait until later in the year.

We did different shows, but both were on the same weekend. It’s time to serious though!
 
How many years have you been training? And if you don't mind me asking what was your natural starting weight before lifting? You got some good size and it's obviously no water weight illusion there either..
I’m 36 i started lifting at 26 or so. I was 130 pounds or so. I got to about 175-180 at like 32 then been on gear since. Honestly I probably should of waited to start taking gear. My diet and training weren’t the best. About 3 years ago things really kicked in.
 
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