Why there almost certainly is No God!!

You're fooling yourself. I've read enough of your diatribes to know better.

I have no need for nanny state policies. I'm very well insulated from that world in that I own rural property, I have a large amount of money, don't have to work at all other than taking care of my property.

Government should only have one role, defense from outside external threat.

I think everything should be privatized, schools, roads, utilities, healthcare. Police should be disarmed and only the citizens are allowed to own firearms. Massive tax cuts would shut down courtrooms, jails, prisons, legislators that sit around dreaming up laws and regulations would be a thing of the past.

It's been my experience that it's really Christians that love big government in their support for republicans that talk a big game when it comes to cutting costs, but end up bloating the deficit and spend endlessly to keep their lobbyists happy. All of this is well tolerated by the Christian Right because they supposedly are against abortion.

I'd flush all of this.

So how is that leftist?
 
One thing that points to the Christians and their flawed concept of conservatism, is there relentless support for packaging up $4 billion every year and sending it to Israel.

They never have a problem with support for endless trillions spent on wars in the Middle East in service of their Zionist masters.

The only way anyone would be for this is if they were told the Jews were the chosen people. No one else that didn't believe in this horseshit would be carrying out these insane policies, how else would you come to think Israel was such an asset unless it was written in the bible which I find very convenient......the people that wrote the bible claim they are the chosen......how ignorant would you have to be to fall for this, and yet we have millions and millions and millions of zionists in the United States.....gullible tards each and every one of them.
 
I have no need for nanny state policies. I'm very well insulated from that world in that I own rural property, I have a large amount of money, don't have to work at all other than taking care of my property.

Government should only have one role, defense from outside external threat.

I think everything should be privatized, schools, roads, utilities, healthcare. Police should be disarmed and only the citizens are allowed to own firearms. Massive tax cuts would shut down courtrooms, jails, prisons, legislators that sit around dreaming up laws and regulations would be a thing of the past.

<clipping out all the BS about Christians>

So how is that leftist?

You are perfectly capable of writing stuff I agree with. The trouble is your next post or the one after that will contain crap about what you would force public schools to teach, or what you would do to people who say X or promote Y, etc.
 
You are perfectly capable of writing stuff I agree with. The trouble is your next post or the one after that will contain crap about what you would force public schools to teach, or what you would do to people who say X or promote Y, etc.

Well if you're gonna have school, you might as well teach them scientific fact. Science provides a set of tools that can be used over and over with consistency to get the job done.

I wouldn't want my kids to be taught some bs religion, it promises everything and delivers absolutely nothing. I can't use a tool like that, I wouldn't want that shit in my kids heads either.

Christians have done everything they can to inject religion into the public school system. They use to force prayer on kids, until separation of church and state forced it to stop in the 60's. Now they try with after school programs where they entice the children and get other kids to follow them into these rooms to be indoctrinated via peer pressure.

This has absolutely no place in a public schools. If the government is holding a gun to my head and forcing me to pay taxes to support these institutions, then I'm gonna give my mind on these matters when it comes to the governments rubber stamp approval of raising the next generation of bible believers that go out into the world to spread nonsense and force their horseshit through legislation that sticks millions of people in prison to fulfill their mentally deranged sense of morality.
 
Well if you're gonna have school, you might as well teach them scientific fact. Science provides a set of tools that can be used over and over with consistency to get the job done.

I wouldn't want my kids to be taught some bs religion, it promises everything and delivers absolutely nothing. I can't use a tool like that, I wouldn't want that shit in my kids heads either.

Christians have done everything they can to inject religion into the public school system. They use to force prayer on kids, until separation of church and state forced it to stop in the 60's. Now they try with after school programs where they entice the children and get other kids to follow them into these rooms to be indoctrinated via peer pressure.

This has absolutely no place in a public schools. If the government is holding a gun to my head and forcing me to pay taxes to support these institutions, then I'm gonna give my mind on these matters when it comes to the governments rubber stamp approval of raising the next generation of bible believers that go out into the world to spread nonsense and force their horseshit through legislation that sticks millions of people in prison to fulfill their mentally deranged sense of morality.

See, you prove my point. You are a libertarian because you have no power. If you had power, you would be a tyrant.
 
Well if you're gonna have school, you might as well teach them scientific fact. Science provides a set of tools that can be used over and over with consistency to get the job done.
What is scientific fact? That topic would be exhausted rather quickly since it’s mostly all theory. They can’t even tell you if a damn egg is good for you or bad for you.
 
For me it's very simple. I identify systems of authority, oppression, dominance, and hierarchy and challenge them, ask them to demonstrate their legitimacy, recognize that they aren't self justified, that they have a burden of evidence to prove they are just systems.

I will not to the end of my life accept something just becomes someone has written it down in a book 2000 years in the past. I will not accept someone with a tin badge sticking a gun in my face ordering me around telling me it's for my own good, I will not accept a government that has rights that I nor any individual citizen don't posses.

This is what pisses me off more than anything about Christianity, it has mindless respect for authority as long as those in power pay tribute to their religion.
 
What is scientific fact? That topic would be exhausted rather quickly since it’s mostly all theory. They can’t even tell you if a damn egg is good for you or bad for you.

Ever taken a chemistry and physics class?

a fact is a repeatable careful observation or measurement.

You engage in fact every week, with objective reality that is based on evidence.

That testosterone enanthate you inject is C26 H40 O3. That is fact.
 
Ever taken a chemistry and physics class?

a fact is a repeatable careful observation or measurement.

You engage in fact every week, with objective reality that is based on evidence.

That testosterone enanthate you inject is C26 H40 O3. That is fact.
Lol, you overestimate the zeal for science in people.
 
Lol, you overestimate the zeal for science in people.

Some people don't like science, some are scared of it. Some people are terrified by math.

However chemistry is the the entire bases of life and our reality and nothing can be reduced past gravitational, weak nuclear, electromagnetic and strong nuclear force.

Why someone would want to spend their life studying and believing the batshit words of bronze aged middle eastern goat herders instead the fascinating world of science is beyond me.
 
I've read the bible cover to cover, poured through what is considered the most scholarly commentaries.

The bible has 1700 verses of cruelty, barbarity, genocide, slavery, sex slavery, child sex slavery, stoning men, women and children to death, amputating your wifes hand if she grabs a mans testicles. The fastest way to atheist is to read the bible. Matter of fact the fastest way to getting rid of all religions is to read there scriptures, whether that be the Quran which is one of the most mind numbing books warning of hell on every other page. The Vedas for the Hindus, another incredible collection of nonsense. The Discourses of the Buddha, half way respectable because it's completely non-violent, but has the silly concept of rebirth and karma that would force your to embrace a reality that doesn't exist.

As an atheist and anarchist its very simple. My view of ethics would have to point to a bible that suggests "might makes right as far as the old testament", and the foolishness of the new testament that a man and his followers offered a universal truth. Nowhere in nature is there a universal truth, everything is subjective as far as the ego is concerned.

All of this I reject, if I didn't I wouldn't be truly free, it would always make me subject to a dominant morality by those that furnish the most power in a society. So If I live in the United States that would be Christianity, Middle East it would be Islam, India it would be Hindu. Asia it could be any number of religions from Buddhism, Shinto, Confucian, Taoism...ect.

I reject the idea that I should bow to any thing, I should be free to conduct my life in a way where I mind my own business and do what I want as long as I force no others. I would hope others would do the same, that they would keep their religion completely out of politics, keep their morals out of our legal system where they cause immense harms creating endless victimless crime laws because of a sense of duty to what is right based on religious preference.

The ultimate question is does man have to serve a higher purpose like a slave performing his duty, or can he have the courage to go his own way as long as his actions don't "directly" interfere with others freedom. Do I have the right living in a religious society for self-liberation, the right to reject all that is considered normal and right.
Just because you claim to have read the Bible doesn’t mean you understand it. Copan goes into great detail with historical data explaining what you would call atrocities. If you don’t understand the times at which the text was written you cannot understand the meaning and background of the text. Again, go read “Is God a Moral Monster” and you will find perfectly sound explanations for much of what you think is bad in the Old Testament.

And whomever said that the Old Testament is pretty much a moot point for Christianity is correct. If you want to bash Christianity the Old Testament isn’t a good place to try it.
 
Ever taken a chemistry and physics class?

a fact is a repeatable careful observation or measurement.

You engage in fact every week, with objective reality that is based on evidence.

That testosterone enanthate you inject is C26 H40 O3. That is fact.
But science still cannot tell us why the universe began to exist, how life was started, or even what energy is. Why blindly follow science when it constantly changes? Seems like a logical fallacy to follow only that path.
 
But science still cannot tell us why the universe began to exist, how life was started, or even what energy is. Why blindly follow science when it constantly changes? Seems like a logical fallacy to follow only that path.


Religion allows you to claim to "know" something you don't know.

I've never heard a scientist use the words...."I know that I know".

Who would you trust to diagnose and treat cancer, an experienced oncologist/surgeon. Or a religious crackpot that claims he can heal by laying on with hands and anointing you with his magical oil or holy water.

The game is up, the people have asked the religious to show their hand,
it's a simple matter of "put up or shut up". You either prove this god that you can describe in such detail, or you face the fact that you're stuck in a chain letter, a game of Chinese whispers that has been going on for the past 2000 years.
 
Why someone would want to spend their life studying and believing the batshit words of bronze aged middle eastern goat herders instead the fascinating world of science is beyond me.
I’m guessing you’ve been out of school for quite some time. In case you missed the memo, most of God has been kicked out of schools unless they’re private, so it’s hardly a concern that kids are being taught about God, intelligent design, creationism or anything else.
 
I’m guessing you’ve been out of school for quite some time. In case you missed the memo, most of God has been kicked out of schools unless they’re private, so it’s hardly a concern that kids are being taught about God, intelligent design, creationism or anything else.


When I was growing up religion was hardly ever spoken of in school, neither was politics.

The thing that isn't being pushed however is to actively teach ideas that directly contradict creationism, they have to tread lightly when dealing with and audience controlled by parents. College is where many kids find out the truth when they're allowed to think for themselves and question the things they're parents tried to bash into their heads.

So how do we get these college concepts into the classroom at an early age. I have no problem teaching a course in Kindergarden entitled, "God is Bullshit". I'd even make out charitable contributions for that kind of coursework.
 
The thing that isn't being pushed however is to actively teach ideas that directly contradict creationism, they have to tread lightly when dealing with and audience controlled by parents. College is where many kids find out the truth when they're allowed to think for themselves and question the things they're parents tried to bash into their heads.
The mere fact that they’re teaching evolution in school contradicts christian beliefs in creationism.
 
You can't just cover evolution, you also have to make direct assaults on creationism. It never hurts to throw a few insults at religion as well, just to get the message across.
 
Religion allows you to claim to "know" something you don't know.

I've never heard a scientist use the words...."I know that I know".

Who would you trust to diagnose and treat cancer, an experienced oncologist/surgeon. Or a religious crackpot that claims he can heal by laying on with hands and anointing you with his magical oil or holy water.

The game is up, the people have asked the religious to show their hand,
it's a simple matter of "put up or shut up". You either prove this god that you can describe in such detail, or you face the fact that you're stuck in a chain letter, a game of Chinese whispers that has been going on for the past 2000 years.
Again, I cannot prove God exists JUST as you cannot prove he does not.

This is exactly why philosophy is not dead, and why science has a lot of catching up to do when debating theism with Christian philosophers such as Dr. Craig.

Edit: Science also claims to know what it does not know: the existence of God.
 
Interesting perspective from BM, and the ultimate (non) conspiracy theory for Christians.

Yet, God remains the master of history and in spite of the machinations of the wicked, God continues to use the coronavirus to bring about His intentions, one of which is using it as the “killer of Globalization.”
Some Perspective?
Bionic Mosquito
April 1, 2020

John 9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
E. Michael Jones has written a piece: The Coronavirus and the Culture War. It is very long, and very far-reaching, covering a broad sweep of the disease, possible sources, suspicious elite actions, data and facts, narrative manipulation, etc. I will cover one aspect of it: that of the culture war, specifically the role of Christian church leaders during this time.

Pestilence is portrayed in scripture as a punishment for sin.
This is how Jones opens the piece. I opened with this passage from John for a reason: I am not going to get into “is this punishment from God” or any of that talk – I won’t speak for God. Jesus has indicated that calamities befall us for reasons other than punishment; these give opportunities for God’s works to be seen.

Before I get to the interesting perspective offered by Moore, it is worth understanding the foundation he builds regarding the reaction by many Christian church leaders:

…the Church had internalized the Enlightenment’s command that science determined “ultimate reality” and had become as a result irrelevant.
Such a determination makes sense if the Church accepts a solely materialist universe. Now, before anyone accuses me of preferring blood leaching to modern medicine, I offer a quote from N. T. Wright (as I recall it from his Gifford Lectures): I don’t want to return to premodern or advance to postmodern dentistry, thank you very much.

As Christian leaders have given ground at ever-increasing rates to the State and willingly ceded subordination of church to State, Moore offers today’s reality:

Pornography, abortion, and drugs are now available to those in quarantine but not religious services. …Abortion clinics did not close during the lockdown in California, but that state’s Catholic churches did.

Wow.

Not all Christian leaders have fallen into such decay and decadence:

Catholic reaction to this remarkable state of affairs depended largely on the writer’s relationship to the state in general and the American Empire in particular.
He offers examples to the contrary:

“The ecclesial events of these hours,” [Archbishop Carlo Maria] Vigano tells us, “have manifested clearly — if there was still any need — the tragic subjection of the Church to a State that is striving and doing all it can to destroy the Christian identity of our Italy, by enslaving it to an ideological, immoral, globalist, Malthusian, abortionist, migrant agenda that is the enemy of man and of the family.”

Raymond Cardinal Burke, former ordinary of the Diocese of LaCrosse, Wisconsin and former head of the Rota in Rome, stated that because “our first consideration is our relationship with God,” primary consideration in times of crisis must be given to having “access to our churches and chapels to the Sacraments, and to public devotions and prayers.”
What better time to close down churches than during the time leading up to (and likely to include) Palm Sunday and Easter. More than the birth of Jesus, the events of His death and Resurrection are the ultimate foundation for the existence of what we know as Christianity.

Now for his interesting perspective:

…the coronavirus pandemic signals the end of the American Empire and the era of Globalization, as practiced by oligarchs like George Soros. Globalization is both the perpetrator and ultimate victim of the current crisis because it “destroys space and pulverizes distances.” But because God is in charge of history Globalization finds itself subjected to the cunning of reason which has created “social distance, the isolation of the individual and quarantine,” all of which are “diametrically opposed to the ‘open society’ hoped for by George Soros.”

The doors are being slammed shut on globalization, open borders, and the like. Unfortunately, the reaction could be as equally detrimental for liberty as was the globalization and open borders that came before.

According to de Mattei, “the great sin which has brought down God’s wrath on our heads is the apostasy of the men governing the Church, who failed, either culpably or not, to denounce the schemes which the oligarchs have used to ensnare the entire world in sin.”
Again, I will stay out of the idea that God has brought this wrath down – there is no doubt that such episodes are evidenced in the Bible, but I will not promote or deny anything of the sort. I do agree that there has been a failure by church leaders to call out the evils of the state and the elite oligarchs who pull the strings.

As Jesus has shown, this does not preclude God from making His works manifest.

Yet, God remains the master of history and in spite of the machinations of the wicked, God continues to use the coronavirus to bring about His intentions, one of which is using it as the “killer of Globalization.”
I am quite comfortable with this wording, and I pray for this outcome – albeit not the likely over-reaction.

Conclusion

John 11:1 Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.
2 (It was that Mary which anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.)
3 Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.
4 When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.
5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.
6 When he had heard therefore that he was sick, he abode two days still in the same place where he was.
Is this coronavirus from God? Above my pay grade. But could God use it for His purposes? It has happened before. So, what does this have to do with the perspective, what Moore has built up to through his 11,600-word essay?

With each historical cycle, the distinction between Logos and its opposite becomes more apparent. Because the distinction between Logos and anti-Logos in our day has never been more obvious, its victory has never been more certain.
I have seen the discussion of the meaning crisis lead to the same place. Too many people are seeing the shallowness of a solely materialist worldview. Such a worldview offers no meaning, and even no possibility of free will and freedom. If we are nothing but the result of random atoms randomly smashing together, what’s the point; what can we be “free to choose”?

Further, countless millions are losing and will lose their jobs. The St. Louis Fed projects up to 47 million with a 32% unemployment rate. On sports radio, they are talking about the possibility of no baseball and no football – all year!

What happens to people when they find themselves fully dependent on the state for sustenance, for months or even a year or more?

Globalization may have precipitated the current crisis, but its real source is a Church which is either too corrupt or too befuddled to address the forces which are now destroying the entire world.
I agree: many Christian leaders are corrupt (count the war mongers and Christian-Zionist worshippers among these), while others just don’t know what to do. From the latter group, there may be hope that once this episode is behind us, they combine with those who had already see the treachery of many western leaders.

Let’s pray that this current crisis brings just such a backlash from honest Christian leaders. If the crush of the State is to be broken, it will take an institution – specifically this institution – to do it.

Epilogue

In the middle of his essay, Moore offers:

After Foucault made his pact with the devil in 1975, he began teaching Austrian School Economics….
Foucault might be the poster-boy of post-modern deconstructionism. This is too involved a topic to dive into here. I may do so in a future post.
 
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