Ascendance: DrankSlangin’s Training Journal

[FourOneDeuxFitt]

Thanks my brother! Will do. Gonna see what all this cryo therapy stuff is about tomorrow. Should I keep calories the same? I’ve been at 3610 almost all cruise, a little bit of fat added past couple weeks which I’m totally cool with heading into an aggressive bulk. I desperately need a cheat meal, last one was 3-4 weeks ago.

When I had that pizza the other weekend it was like mentally relieving hahaha. I wouldn’t change your calories on training days. I didn’t during my cruise. On off days I normally cut my carbs down a bit from 300 to 200. But other than that I keep it pretty consistent. So when I need to make changes I know where to look you know. Shit your eating like 300 more cals than I am right now.

 

[DrankSlangin]

When I had that pizza the other weekend it was like mentally relieving hahaha. I wouldn’t change your calories on training days. I didn’t during my cruise. On off days I normally cut my carbs down a bit from 300 to 200. But other than that I keep it pretty consistent. So when I need to make changes I know where to look you know. Shit your eating like 300 more cals than I am right now.

Ok cool thank you. Yeah it’s crazy, I didn’t think my maintenance was so high but early to mid cruise, my weight slowly kept going down until I had increased to 3610 and then weight stayed constant for 4-5 weeks. I’m not as lean as I was at start of the cruise, so could be some muscle loss and fat gain.

I could fuckin DESTROY a large meat lovers right now haha. I’m gonna be careful with surplus calories this time, and will be my first time on GH which I’m sure will affect calorie requirements. Maybe bump up to 3800 week by week 3.

 

[FourOneDeuxFitt]

Ok cool thank you. Yeah it’s crazy, I didn’t think my maintenance was so high but early to mid cruise, my weight slowly kept going down until I had increased to 3610 and then weight stayed constant for 4-5 weeks. I’m not as lean as I was at start of the cruise, so could be some muscle loss and fat gain.

I could fuckin DESTROY a large meat lovers right now haha. I’m gonna be careful with surplus calories this time, and will be my first time on GH which I’m sure will affect calorie requirements. Maybe bump up to 3800 week by week 3.

Bro. Give yourself a good dinner and desert. Don’t count calories. Just eat. I did it before back the next day and it was awesome. Slept like a champ. Workout was solid. And mentally relieved bro. Let yourself live a little more during this cruise.

 

[DrankSlangin]

Fall/Winter Bulk Blast

Alas the time hath come. Blast off day! Oh how I have missed me some nandrolone, the sweet nectar of gods. Or is that tren? Ha well they both are! And both will be featured in this 16 week blast.

I am starting a week ahead of schedule. My logic behind this is I am currently deloading, so why not let my test levels rise and npp get into my system now? Then when I pick up week 9 of Carnage in 10 days, I’m ready to dominate.

Goal is to put on as much lean mass as possible, 10lbs would be awesome. And while powerlifting is not my thing, I’ve got a few strength plateaus I’d like to blast through. For example I have yet to squat 365x5. I’ve been unable to lift 455x1. I can lift 425x3 so I think failing at 455 is mental, but either way I wanna get it and beyond.

So here’s the protocol, subject to change:

Weeks 1-4:
400 test p
525 npp

Weeks 5-8:
500 test p
700 npp

Weeks 9-12:
500 test p
525 tren a

Weeks 13-16:
700 test p
700 tren a

Gh will be 4iu total, 2iu split 2x daily, unless I find that my sweet spot is higher or lower.

Pretty basic, nothing too crazy except for high doses. I was able to handle tren ace @700mg a few months ago, although that was on a cut with 200mg test. Adex will be my AI of choice, working up to 0.5mg eod with the higher doses. I have anadrol on hand to use later on if the deca gods are kind and GH helps my overworked connective tissue. Otherwise no sense in piling on the injury risk with tren+anadrol strength.

Bloods will be taken and posted here every 6 weeks. The first will include an updated IGF-1 score to compare with my baseline.

Diet will increase by 200 calories every 2 weeks until I’m putting on too much fat. But I’m not going to be afraid of a little fat gain, I’m gonna eat like a fat man at a buffet. Except the diet will of course be clean.

 

[FourOneDeuxFitt]

Fall/Winter Bulk Blast

Alas the time hath come. Blast off day! Oh how I have missed me some nandrolone, the sweet nectar of gods. Or is that tren? Ha well they both are! And both will be featured in this 16 week blast.

I am starting a week ahead of schedule. My logic behind this is I am currently deloading, so why not let my test levels rise and npp get into my system now? Then when I pick up week 9 of Carnage in 10 days, I’m ready to dominate.

Goal is to put on as much lean mass as possible, 10lbs would be awesome. And while powerlifting is not my thing, I’ve got a few strength plateaus I’d like to blast through. For example I have yet to squat 365x5. I’ve been unable to lift 455x1. I can lift 425x3 so I think failing at 455 is mental, but either way I wanna get it and beyond.

So here’s the protocol, subject to change:

Weeks 1-4:
400 test p
525 npp

Weeks 5-8:
500 test p
700 npp

Weeks 9-12:
500 test p
525 tren a

Weeks 13-16:
700 test p
700 tren a

Gh will be 4iu total, 2iu split 2x daily, unless I find that my sweet spot is higher or lower.

Pretty basic, nothing too crazy except for high doses. I was able to handle tren ace @700mg a few months ago, although that was on a cut with 200mg test. Adex will be my AI of choice, working up to 0.5mg eod with the higher doses. I have anadrol on hand to use later on if the deca gods are kind and GH helps my overworked connective tissue. Otherwise no sense in piling on the injury risk with tren+anadrol strength.

Bloods will be taken and posted here every 6 weeks. The first will include an updated IGF-1 score to compare with my baseline.

Diet will increase by 200 calories every 2 weeks until I’m putting on too much fat. But I’m not going to be afraid of a little fat gain, I’m gonna eat like a fat man at a buffet. Except the diet will of course be clean.

I dig it bro!!!! Fuckkk I’m excited for you! Hahah

 

[DrankSlangin]

I dig it bro!!!! Fuckkk I’m excited for you! Hahah

Thanks man! Fuck I’m super excited myself. I just need to chill the fuck out and be patient during this deload haha

 

[JackSmooth]

What's your reason for tapering up the doses?
Ran a cycle earlier this year with tren and npp, you'll love it.

 

[DrankSlangin]

What's your reason for tapering up the doses?
Ran a cycle earlier this year with tren and npp, you'll love it.

A great question that I would’ve had an easier, direct answer to a few weeks ago. More than anything to stay ahead of increasing myostatin levels. Some studies have shown AAS to raise myostatin to high enough levels after 8 weeks that it becomes near impossible at that point to add LBM. Increasing doses and switching to stronger compounds can buy more growth time, but eventually myostatin wins and we need to dial back.

I firmly believed all this until a few weeks ago. After talking with a highly respected member here that definitely knows his shit, now I’m not so sure. He said AAS don’t raise myostatin, it’s the actual growth and hard training that increase it.

So I’m sticking with my original blast plan while I research further. I really trust this guy’s advice because of his experience, but I just can’t get past some of the studies.

 

[JackSmooth]

A great question that I would’ve had an easier, direct answer to a few weeks ago. More than anything to stay ahead of increasing myostatin levels. Some studies have shown AAS to raise myostatin to high enough levels after 8 weeks that it becomes near impossible at that point to add LBM. Increasing doses and switching to stronger compounds can buy more growth time, but eventually myostatin wins and we need to dial back.

I firmly believed all this until a few weeks ago. After talking with a highly respected member here that definitely knows his shit, now I’m not so sure. He said AAS don’t raise myostatin, it’s the actual growth and hard training that increase it.

So I’m sticking with my original blast plan while I research further. I really trust this guy’s advice because of his experience, but I just can’t get past some of the studies.

I've read a lot about the myostatin thing too. My thinking is that starting with the higher dose it takes longer for myostatin to increase so you end up with the same amount of growth time either way you choose to do it.

Just my thinking, I honestly have no idea about it all.

 

[FourOneDeuxFitt]

A great question that I would’ve had an easier, direct answer to a few weeks ago. More than anything to stay ahead of increasing myostatin levels. Some studies have shown AAS to raise myostatin to high enough levels after 8 weeks that it becomes near impossible at that point to add LBM. Increasing doses and switching to stronger compounds can buy more growth time, but eventually myostatin wins and we need to dial back.

I firmly believed all this until a few weeks ago. After talking with a highly respected member here that definitely knows his shit, now I’m not so sure. He said AAS don’t raise myostatin, it’s the actual growth and hard training that increase it.

So I’m sticking with my original blast plan while I research further. I really trust this guy’s advice because of his experience, but I just can’t get past some of the studies.

HENCE DELOAD WEEKS!!!! Prime yourself for growth, gain some extra recovery during that time period, and switch it up. If you’ve noticed when meadows does incorporate them it’s in the middle of the end of one block going into another block (ex. Finishing up hitting chest 2-3 times a week to a two week deload of everything hit once into the next block of legs 2-3 times a week). Placing the stress and confusion in different areas. Hence hopefully busting through those plateaus that tend to rise over time. I also firmly believe in increasing doseage over time and that switching compounds can be extremely effective as well. Your numbers look great and I love all the compounds associated in your next blast.

 

[DrankSlangin]

I've read a lot about the myostatin thing too. My thinking is that starting with the higher dose it takes longer for myostatin to increase so you end up with the same amount of growth time either way you choose to do it.

Just my thinking, I honestly have no idea about it all.

It’s really too bad there aren’t more studies out there for us. @wedorecover is having success going the opposite way, cutting with tren, then bulking with npp. I mean that’s a huge oversimplification of his protocol. But the fact he’s going from a stronger compound to a weaker one kind of throws the whole chasing myostatin levels thing out the window.

 

[DrankSlangin]

HENCE DELOAD WEEKS!!!! Prime yourself for growth, gain some extra recovery during that time period, and switch it up. If you’ve noticed when meadows does incorporate them it’s in the middle of the end of one block going into another block (ex. Finishing up hitting chest 2-3 times a week to a two week deload of everything hit once into the next block of legs 2-3 times a week). Placing the stress and confusion in different areas. Hence hopefully busting through those plateaus that tend to rise over time. I also firmly believe in increasing doseage over time and that switching compounds can be extremely effective as well. Your numbers look great and I love all the compounds associated in your next blast.

Yes sir my man! I’m so glad you sold me on these. It really makes a lot of sense and honestly looking at the past few weeks, my strength was down, pumps and vascularity weren’t as good and was mentally fatigued. In addition of course to overworked areas.

You and I share almost identical blast philosophies. This will be my first time trying to bulk with tren, I’m excited to see how that goes! Really I’m just excited for tren haha. I loooooooove tren.

 

[JackSmooth]

It’s really too bad there aren’t more studies out there for us. @wedorecover is having success going the opposite way, cutting with tren, then bulking with npp. I mean that’s a huge oversimplification of his protocol. But the fact he’s going from a stronger compound to a weaker one kind of throws the whole chasing myostatin levels thing out the window.

That's exactly how I aproached my last bulk. Started with low test moderate tren, and then raised test and substituted tren with npp, and I can't say I felt any stalls after switching. I still believe majority of people just don't raise calories enough through out the cycle and that if you stay on indefiantly you'll continue to put on tissue just without huge jumps because you get closer and closer to what your dose can maintain, and that may the reason people believe you must raise the dose. They're chasing those larger jumps they experience at the beginning of a cycle.

 

[DrankSlangin]

That's exactly how I aproached my last bulk. Started with low test moderate tren, and then raised test and substituted tren with npp, and I can't say I felt any stalls after switching. I still believe majority of people just don't raise calories enough through out the cycle and that if you stay on indefiantly you'll continue to put on tissue just without huge jumps because you get closer and closer to what your dose can maintain, and that may the reason people believe you must raise the dose. They're chasing those larger jumps they experience at the beginning of a cycle.

This definitely has my attention, I’d love to take tren before npp so I could head into npp with ample room for moderate fat gains during an aggressive bulk. Much appreciated for sharing your experience my man. I may have to give that a go for next spring’s blast.

 

[FourOneDeuxFitt]

Yes sir my man! I’m so glad you sold me on these. It really makes a lot of sense and honestly looking at the past few weeks, my strength was down, pumps and vascularity weren’t as good and was mentally fatigued. In addition of course to overworked areas.

You and I share almost identical blast philosophies. This will be my first time trying to bulk with tren, I’m excited to see how that goes! Really I’m just excited for tren haha. I loooooooove tren.

Well a big thing my buddy pointed out to my when I complained about not getting great pumps in the gym was hydration. He told me I should have at least two liters of water in my before my workout. Not counting regular intake for the day up to that point. That’s been making a big difference as well.

 

[Morefyah]

Fall/Winter Bulk Blast

Alas the time hath come. Blast off day! Oh how I have missed me some nandrolone, the sweet nectar of gods. Or is that tren? Ha well they both are! And both will be featured in this 16 week blast.

I am starting a week ahead of schedule. My logic behind this is I am currently deloading, so why not let my test levels rise and npp get into my system now? Then when I pick up week 9 of Carnage in 10 days, I’m ready to dominate.

Goal is to put on as much lean mass as possible, 10lbs would be awesome. And while powerlifting is not my thing, I’ve got a few strength plateaus I’d like to blast through. For example I have yet to squat 365x5. I’ve been unable to lift 455x1. I can lift 425x3 so I think failing at 455 is mental, but either way I wanna get it and beyond.

So here’s the protocol, subject to change:

Weeks 1-4:
400 test p
525 npp

Weeks 5-8:
500 test p
700 npp

Weeks 9-12:
500 test p
525 tren a

Weeks 13-16:
700 test p
700 tren a

Gh will be 4iu total, 2iu split 2x daily, unless I find that my sweet spot is higher or lower.

Pretty basic, nothing too crazy except for high doses. I was able to handle tren ace @700mg a few months ago, although that was on a cut with 200mg test. Adex will be my AI of choice, working up to 0.5mg eod with the higher doses. I have anadrol on hand to use later on if the deca gods are kind and GH helps my overworked connective tissue. Otherwise no sense in piling on the injury risk with tren+anadrol strength.

Bloods will be taken and posted here every 6 weeks. The first will include an updated IGF-1 score to compare with my baseline.

Diet will increase by 200 calories every 2 weeks until I’m putting on too much fat. But I’m not going to be afraid of a little fat gain, I’m gonna eat like a fat man at a buffet. Except the diet will of course be clean.

Hell Yeah bredda, I like that stack a lot! I would really try to take advantage of the NPP and get those size and weight in first 8 weeks. I’m finding I can’t out eat the Tren and HGH combination. Are you really planning on runnning Test P the whole time?

 

[wedorecover]

It’s really too bad there aren’t more studies out there for us. @wedorecover is having success going the opposite way, cutting with tren, then bulking with npp. I mean that’s a huge oversimplification of his protocol. But the fact he’s going from a stronger compound to a weaker one kind of throws the whole chasing myostatin levels thing out the window.

Npp is amazing can cut with it and bulk

 

[DrankSlangin]

Well a big thing my buddy pointed out to my when I complained about not getting great pumps in the gym was hydration. He told me I should have at least two liters of water in my before my workout. Not counting regular intake for the day up to that point. That’s been making a big difference as well.

Duly noted. I definitely could use less coffee and more water pre workout. In fact my coffee addiction has gotten a little out of hand, I’m going back to a preworkout once it’s delivered so I’m not drinking 6-8 cups of coffee daily.

 

[DrankSlangin]

Hell Yeah bredda, I like that stack a lot! I would really try to take advantage of the NPP and get those size and weight in first 8 weeks. I’m finding I can’t out eat the Tren and HGH combination. Are you really planning on runnning Test P the whole time?

Yes that is the plan, I pin npp and tren ace ED so might as well go with prop. I really don’t get much pip from it. Occasionally in the quads, but quads are a bitch sometimes no matter what I’m pinning. You know how that goes ha. I know it’s weird, but I actually enjoy pinning. Like it’s part of the pre workout ritual or something.

 

[DrankSlangin]

Npp is amazing can cut with it and bulk

It really is an amazing compound. I’d try it for a cut if I didn’t love tren so much. In a couple months I’m gonna try tren as a bulker this time. We’ll see if it can match the bulking awesomeness of nandrolone.