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[Bloodwork] Watson Test Cyp
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The concept of a hard rule for a medication always putting someone at a certain level is riduculous. No medicine works this way, especially a hormone. Doctors don't just put someone at 1cc of test a week and call it a day. They start at a dose, do blood tests, adjust from there and then continue to do routine bloods every few months. And height and weight most certainly does affect levels. Just because some 5'6 150lb manlet on his first cycle got 10x doesn't mean a 6'3 260 guy will get the same. On top of that there's also studies of a gene that controls how well men absorb testosterone from the ester that some people have and some don't. Ill see if I can find a link to the study
http://www.prohormonepodcast.com/bo...tic-response-steroids-low-vs-high-responders/
At this point i think people are seeing what they want to see. i highly doubt that most people screaming for 10x have ever even gotten a bloods on pharma test.
At this point i think people are seeing what they want to see. i highly doubt that most people screaming for 10x have ever even gotten a bloods on pharma test.
Kinikuman
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Wrong. They have. Many of them. Veterans all.
Go check in the Men's Health Forum: a brother over there just got 10x on 600/week of real pharma test.
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/free-testosterone-1871.134362569/
The naysayers continue to try to tear the rule down because they want to be happy with their underdosed gear. That way, you just don't feel as butt sore about your purchasing decision when your blood results come back at 4x of your weekly gram of Test. Stop buying shitty gear fellas.
ironwill1951
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ironwill1951
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Your argument consists of speculation and reference to a blog post, NOT a study.
Refute the STUDIES that have been posted or step off. What you're doing now is promoting bro science.
ironwill1951
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It was a joke but this place is so delusional that i'm sure some people aren't too far from thinking that cvs is cutting their gear lol
ironwill1951
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You must be from DS!
Which one sounds more like bro science? Different people with different height, weight, genetics, ect will get different levels on a dose of medication or the idea that everyone should react exactly the same on the same dose? A 6'3 260lb guy vs a 5'6 150lb manelt who just stepped inside the gym on his first cycle who's needle could probably reach through his femur. Use some logic
weighted chinup
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Why the fuck would someones cycle history determine how serum test corresponds with dose administered?
The effects of the drug might vary depending on these factors, but not serum levels of test.
It's a linear dose-dependent relationship. This is a fact.
Your whole argument is the usual 'everyone is different' bullshit that guys use to give validity to any bullshit concocted broscience. Which do you think sounds more like bro-science, saying 'you are all special snowflakes', or 'testosterone is a linear dose dependent relationship'.
I'm not gonna turn my hair grey here. People will believe what they want to believe. They saw someone get 10x so they think they should get the same but don't realize that people have different body chemistry and genetics. They don't realize that everyone reacts differently and that's why you see a list of 500 side effects for every medication and there's no set rule for ANY dosage for ANY medication. Doctors always start somewhere, test and adjust from there with not only just testosterone.
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How can you say that when the first god damn post of this thread proves you wrong lol. Different people get different levels on the same dosage and when that happens with ug gear people will just scream bunk but you can't say that for watson can you. So now you're just going to ignore it instead.
I_know_nothing
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oh but they're gonna say "the rule doesn't apply to TRT doses!". too bad @Burrr called them out on that and @Millard Baker liked it. "scally" was a "trt doc" so obviously his observations are going to be about TRT patients. just relax, they wont listen to you, they've already made up their mind and will ignore what challenges them.
think about it like this would a 100lb dude running 500mg/wk week have the same TT results as a 300 lb dude?
dper726
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How many hours from post injection did you get bloods drawn?
Exactly. Drug dosages are absolutley weight, height and genetic dependant. Whatever though, I'm done arguing about it, i'll let em think what they want.
weighted chinup
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Once again, you are completely and totally full of utter shit.
The 10x rule is a tool/estimate that doc mentioned was very useful for estimating PCT Start date / ASIH Treatment. Why would TRT patients be concerned about PCT timing?
This is something that is equally relevant to guys cycling AAS and guys suffering from ASIH, as well as TRT patients.
Get it yet?
The difference is one side of this debate is based on the evidence and the other is based on speculation. I know which one is the most logical. Obviously you don't.
Like I said, either post evidence to support your argument or step off. No one on Meso is interested in what you 'think' will happen.
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