[Bloodwork] Watson Test Cyp

[I_know_nothing]

DMT's results are still skeptical to conclude on the 10x rule. Not that I've ever gone solely from the 10x rule although it is highly possible, I am rather an advocate of 7x-10x.

52 hours from twice a week injections with no AI. Alot of grey area here. Majority of the results pointing peak 10x format are one injection a week with post 24 hours blood analysis. Or something near that.

thank you for addressing that. my next question is...who on >trt doses of test actually injects once a week? are we not all doing 2-3x a week? as for the dosing, i thought it was as long as it's 24 hours after it's g2g?

 

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And shortly after, member @Burrr pointed out that it is indeed relevant to TRT patients.

What the fuck does any of this have to do with you claiming erroneously that these estimates are relevant ONLY to trt patients.

Are you assuming that because another member who is on 'my team' states something that I agree with it?

 

[I_know_nothing]

And shortly after, member @Burrr pointed out that it is indeed relevant to TRT patients.

What the fuck does any of this have to do with you claiming erroneously that these estimates are relevant ONLY to trt patients.

Are you assuming that because another member who is on 'my team' states something that I agree with it?

i never said these estimates to relevant to only trt patients. i'll explain once more: a nansayer says dmt's results dont mean anything against the 10x rule because his are trt results, so i said "well scally was a trt doc so why doesn't the 10x rule apply to trt patients"? i did not say they were only relevant to only trt patients.

why didnt anyone else call out before burrr did? oh that's right, because you accept any reason that supports your cause. thinking it wouldnt be called out.

 

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oh that's right, because you accept any reason that supports your cause. thinking it wouldnt be called out.

The only one here trying to promote a cause/agenda is you.

 

[dper726]

thank you for addressing that. my next question is...who on >trt doses of test actually injects once a week? are we not all doing 2-3x a week? as for the dosing, i thought it was as long as it's 24 hours after it's g2g?

I certainly do and have

 

[jackmeoff1]

I'm not gonna turn my hair grey here. People will believe what they want to believe. They saw someone get 10x so they think they should get the same but don't realize that people have different body chemistry and genetics. They don't realize that everyone reacts differently and that's why you see a list of 500 side effects for every medication and there's no set rule for ANY dosage for ANY medication. Doctors always start somewhere, test and adjust from there with not only just testosterone.

But a vet from this board got 10x, and he was cool because he says funny things and insults people so it must be true.

 

[jackmeoff1]

I'm not gonna turn my hair grey here. People will believe what they want to believe. They saw someone get 10x so they think they should get the same but don't realize that people have different body chemistry and genetics. They don't realize that everyone reacts differently and that's why you see a list of 500 side effects for every medication and there's no set rule for ANY dosage for ANY medication. Doctors always start somewhere, test and adjust from there with not only just testosterone.

You make a point here that I previously tried pointing out. If it was as simple as knowing what dose would do what their wouldn't be a need for follow up blood work. Whenever someone goes on Trt there almost ALWAYS is a 6 week follow up with total and free T. And this is why doses wind up getting adjusted.

If prescribing hormones was that easy, perhaps Dr Jim would be a real doctor instead if a message board, self proclaimed guru.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

so again, is watson bunk or is your 10x rule bunk dawg

You're bunk, loser. Don't you get it? No one is cares what you think.

You make a point here that I previously tried pointing out. If it was as simple as knowing what dose would do what their wouldn't be a need for follow up blood work. Whenever someone goes on Trt there almost ALWAYS is a 6 week follow up with total and free T. And this is why doses wind up getting adjusted.

If prescribing hormones was that easy, perhaps Dr Jim would be a real doctor instead if a message board, self proclaimed guru.

There's the other shill account. And not a minute too late! Funny how these losers all flock to the same threads within minutes of one another. Funny indeed.

 

[jackmeoff1]

Here you go -

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/10x-rule.134360639/#post-1161296

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/bloodwork.134357476/#post-1078769

https://thinksteroids.com/community...test-and-blood-levels.134356260/#post-1046365

I won't be holding your hand any further. Do your own research from now on, especially if you are going to call out others who are more educated on this matter than you.

I can't stop laughing. In every one of those posts Scally called it a "rough estimate". You consider that conclusive?

 

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I can't stop laughing. In every one of those posts Scally called it a "rough estimate". You consider that conclusive?

An estimate that has worked well for restoring HPTA function / ASIH treatment. A treatment where timing is extremely important.

You ignore evidence showing the relationship between serum t and dose administered is a linear and dose-dependent relationship. You made that very clear when you made this ridiculous statement earlier ITT -

I am not making an argument that the relationship should be LOWER; I am saying that there is NOT a relationship to begin with.

You even ignore clinical experiences by individuals with experience in this area.

The only thing relevant to you is your own speculative nonsense.

 

[jackmeoff1]

Why would you think I was talking about something else.

You said his estimates were based solely on TRT patients. I told you that you are completely full of shit, as usual, and that the estimates were also used for estimating PCT start date. That's something where accuracy sort of matters....

If the 10x estimate works amicably in a clinical setting to treat ASIH, where timing is very important, then that says something about it's efficacy.

Nice attempt at trying to weasel out of your ridiculous statement you made earlier. Won't work on me dawg.

If the "rule" is based on supraphysiological levels, what evidence supports that? Not because you know a guy who knows a guy who reported those numbers, but what scientific basis are you forming your conclusion on? Scally himself never said that.

I'll let you answer but I'm willing to bet my bank account that their is no scientific basis. Every time I backed Dr Jim on a corner to support the TT to dose theory he went directly to personal attacks. It's complete bro science.

 

[jackmeoff1]

An estimate that has worked well for restoring HPTA function / ASIH treatment. A treatment where timing is extremely important.

You ignore evidence showing the relationship between serum t and dose administered is a linear and dose-dependent relationship. You made that very clear when you made this ridiculous statement earlier ITT -



You even ignore clinical experiences by individuals with experience in this area.

The only thing relevant to you is your own speculative nonsense.

What evidence? I've been asking for evidence since that start of the TT to dose relationship discussion. And ONE guy who showed a 10x value us NOT evidence. It's useful data, yes but not conclusive evidence especially when you have so much data in the contrary.

Scally himself did not call it conclusive.

 

[dper726]

What evidence? I've been asking for evidence since that start of the TT to dose relationship discussion. And ONE guy who showed a 10x value us NOT evidence. It's useful data, yes but not conclusive evidence especially when you have so much data in the contrary.

Scally himself did not call it conclusive.

Why are you still arguing this? What is conclusive is you enjoy pinning 3/4 human piss in mixture with testosterone hence your x4 hard data.

Obviously x5 is too much for you, god forbid 7x. And 10x is too pure.

 

[ironwill1951]

everyone should quit giving this ass clown the satisfaction of arguing with you,
he does not deserve to even talk to you he is a useless fucking shill...

What evidence? I've been asking for evidence since that start of the TT to dose relationship discussion. And ONE guy who showed a 10x value us NOT evidence. It's useful data, yes but not conclusive evidence especially when you have so much data in the contrary.

Scally himself did not call it conclusive.

 

[Kinikuman]

thank you for addressing that. my next question is...who on >trt doses of test actually injects once a week? are we not all doing 2-3x a week? as for the dosing, i thought it was as long as it's 24 hours after it's g2g?

No, we are not all injecting 2-3x /wk. Some are one and done.

 

[jackmeoff1]

Why are you still arguing this? What is conclusive is you enjoy pinning 3/4 human piss in mixture with testosterone hence your x4 hard data.

Obviously x5 is too much for you, god forbid 7x. And 10x is too pure.

If you support the rule, why is it so hard to provide the evidence that leads you to that conclusion? And me asking for this makes you upset?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

If you support the rule, why is it so hard to provide the evidence that leads you to that conclusion? And me asking for this makes you upset?

A ton of info has been posted over the last several months.. You're running in circles. No one wants to play with you anymore..

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

You ignore evidence showing the relationship between serum t and dose administered is a linear and dose-dependent relationship.

Why are you still arguing this?

A ton of info has been posted over the last several months.. You're running in circles. No one wants to play with you anymore..

The fact that JerkOff, KnowNothing, and a few others have completely ignored the evidence that's been posted is just further proof that these clowns are working in unison.

It's possible for one member to show this level of stupidity over a single issue like this. The chances that two members could be this dumb in the same thread is highly unlikely, but still possible. But for 4 or more people to all take the same absurd position on the same issue? IMPOSSIBLE!

 

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The fact that JerkOff, KnowNothing, and a few others have completely ignored the evidence that's been posted is just further proof that these clowns are working in unison.

It's possible for one member to show this level of stupidity over a single issue like this. The chances that two members could be this dumb in the same thread is highly unlikely, but still possible. But for 4 or more people to all take the same absurd position on the same issue? IMPOSSIBLE!

They have to be from one of ugls off EVO or IMF.

 

[Kinikuman]

They have to be from one of ugls off EVO or IMF.

I suspected that there might be some money involved somewhere in all of this...