Happycamper
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Everything you guys are saying is 100% correct. Just tough to hulk mode bulk for women. We can never commit to it.
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Crystal's 1st Cycle Log. Anavar Only.
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For the record, she went full blown bulk on litteraly about 3k cal. She shot up like a beast from 125 to 145... i was so proud *tear
Edit: i hope and feel like i know a bit about womens nutrition. If im wrong, im still proud at what she accomplished and the way she looks. She feels stronger and better looking than after crossfit. She was thick then, but shes just a babe now
Crystal234
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Nice. Did she make good muscle gainz? Was it a lot of extra fat as well or kept to a minimum?For the record, she went full blown bulk on litteraly about 3k cal. She shot up like a beast from 125 to 145... i was so proud *tear
No way in hell 20 lbs of mass is put on and it even being half muscle. Just matters how you carry the extra.
Alot is water which is lost right away post cycle.
She did gain fat, but were both guessing it was because of the added estrogen and pregestorone due to bc. I told her to come off for the cycle but she loves sex too much she didnt want any risks involved.(she will litteraly take her bc as fucked up as we both may be at any given instance(alcohol)) so shes did have a lot of water retention. Shes shedding that off, legs especially calves are thick as fuck. Shes a bit self concious but she is realizing she may have expected a bit too much on her first...(its what i said about her first lol) anyways, amazing results, and her compound movements increased about 20-30 pounds... if i were to die or pass out, my babes got me!!
OdieM
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Short version: Your only gonna gain a few lbs of actually muscle period. Do you want to bulk and have to cut or do you want nice steady lean gainz?
Yeah no way in hell all muscle, she gained fat, but she is a beast as far as strength goes. She pulled 205 as her single max rep. Thats 15 more pounds than i weigh
She is evening out at a good 140 after a cut. Im amazedYeah no way in hell all muscle, she gained fat, but she is a beast as far as strength goes. She pulled 205 as her single max rep. Thats 15 more pounds than i weigh
I vote for bulk
I undergo violent changes in appearance in just an 8 week all out bulk
It's like I morph in to a different person
I dig that so much
Crystal234
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Morning Meso Peeps,
I really appreciate you guys and gals so much for your input and advice. All is welcome and it's so interesting to see what others' points of views are in regards to training/eating/etc.
Not sure if there is any miscommunication on my part but let me clarify, just in case!
Yes, I am currently bulking and eating just a little over maintenance, so I'm not doing any sort of crazy "dirty bulk" or way overeating on calories. I understand that fat comes with the territory, even if you're "lean bulking".
When I say I want to gain lean muscle, that is in regards to upper body. I hate to sound like those annoying girls that don't lift and say, I don't want to be "bulky" up top, but I don't. I want lean yet muscular arms and shoulders. As far as legs and ass, give me bulky, give me buff. I'll gladly take it all.
So my real dilemma was whether I should drop the weights down when I do shoulders and arms, and focus on lighter weights with higher reps instead of going as heavy as I can (what I've been doing).
I most definitely will continue to go heavy and as hard as I can for legs and booty. There's no stopping me.
Hope that cleared things up a bit. Have a great day everyone!
Going to finish my oats and work on shoulders and triceps in a bit.
I really appreciate you guys and gals so much for your input and advice. All is welcome and it's so interesting to see what others' points of views are in regards to training/eating/etc.
Not sure if there is any miscommunication on my part but let me clarify, just in case!
Yes, I am currently bulking and eating just a little over maintenance, so I'm not doing any sort of crazy "dirty bulk" or way overeating on calories. I understand that fat comes with the territory, even if you're "lean bulking".
When I say I want to gain lean muscle, that is in regards to upper body. I hate to sound like those annoying girls that don't lift and say, I don't want to be "bulky" up top, but I don't. I want lean yet muscular arms and shoulders. As far as legs and ass, give me bulky, give me buff. I'll gladly take it all.
So my real dilemma was whether I should drop the weights down when I do shoulders and arms, and focus on lighter weights with higher reps instead of going as heavy as I can (what I've been doing).
I most definitely will continue to go heavy and as hard as I can for legs and booty. There's no stopping me.
Hope that cleared things up a bit. Have a great day everyone!
Going to finish my oats and work on shoulders and triceps in a bit.
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OdieM
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Drop the weights and do higher reps for delts and arms like you mentioned. Even when I do delts as funny as I may look I only start out with 15 lb DBs.
Not funny at all. I do my seated laterals with 25's. Strict and them delts just get rounder and rounder. I don't think I could do much more in any real form
Yup, like Odie mentioned lighter weight and higher reps.
It's so interesting how we all have our preferences. I do wanna get bulky arms and shoulders. Absolutely love that capped shoulder look.
It's so difficult for me though. I'm def a hard gainer
I want arms like Bluedress's when I grow up
It's so interesting how we all have our preferences. I do wanna get bulky arms and shoulders. Absolutely love that capped shoulder look.
It's so difficult for me though. I'm def a hard gainer
I want arms like Bluedress's when I grow up
Seated side and front laterals for the win! No momentum, just pure,raw, perfect form
Crystal234
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Well, I dropped the weights down and did high reps and I have to say, my shoulders and arms are shot! I've never felt them burn as bad as they were earlier and now.
It was a nice change from going heavy. I know my shoulders are going to thank me for it.
It was a nice change from going heavy. I know my shoulders are going to thank me for it.
Crystal234
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Day 28
Weighed in at 135.2.
Today I did shoulders and arms. I used much lighter weights and did high reps. It's so different than what I'm used to, but I think I like it. My shoulders and arms were on fire for the majority of my workout. Will continue doing shoulder and arm days like this, and see where it takes me.
DB shoulder press
20lbs. 1 x 15
10lbs. 3 x 15
5lbs. 1 x 20
Plate raises
10lbs. 4 x 18
DB lat raise
10lbs. 3 x 18
DB front raise
5lbs. 3 x 18
Face pulls
#2 plate 4 x 18
Tricep push down
#3 plate 1 x 12
#2 plate 3 x 18
#1 plate 1 x 20
DB upright row
10lbs. 4 x 18
DB tricep extension
10lbs. 3 x 15
DB kickback
5lbs. 3 x 15
DB bicep curls
10lbs. 4 x 15
DB hammer curls
5lbs. 4 x 18
I dropped my dose back down today to 10mg per day, due to not being able to get even cuts. Hopefully I will keep making good strength gainz on this dose and continue seeing nice physical changes in my body. If all goes well, I plan to stay at 10mg per day for the next few weeks.
I noticed my period is much lighter in comparison to how it usually is. That's definitely a plus.
No blemishes or changes in skin. I don't notice any hair fallout so far. Still drinking on average about a gallon of water per day. Libido still up and no significant changes in mood.
Will measure my body fat with calipers in a few days from now. Just waiting until the little bit of water retention I have, due to it being Shark Week is gone, lol.
Post workout selfie:
Weighed in at 135.2.
Today I did shoulders and arms. I used much lighter weights and did high reps. It's so different than what I'm used to, but I think I like it. My shoulders and arms were on fire for the majority of my workout. Will continue doing shoulder and arm days like this, and see where it takes me.
DB shoulder press
20lbs. 1 x 15
10lbs. 3 x 15
5lbs. 1 x 20
Plate raises
10lbs. 4 x 18
DB lat raise
10lbs. 3 x 18
DB front raise
5lbs. 3 x 18
Face pulls
#2 plate 4 x 18
Tricep push down
#3 plate 1 x 12
#2 plate 3 x 18
#1 plate 1 x 20
DB upright row
10lbs. 4 x 18
DB tricep extension
10lbs. 3 x 15
DB kickback
5lbs. 3 x 15
DB bicep curls
10lbs. 4 x 15
DB hammer curls
5lbs. 4 x 18
I dropped my dose back down today to 10mg per day, due to not being able to get even cuts. Hopefully I will keep making good strength gainz on this dose and continue seeing nice physical changes in my body. If all goes well, I plan to stay at 10mg per day for the next few weeks.
I noticed my period is much lighter in comparison to how it usually is. That's definitely a plus.
No blemishes or changes in skin. I don't notice any hair fallout so far. Still drinking on average about a gallon of water per day. Libido still up and no significant changes in mood.
Will measure my body fat with calipers in a few days from now. Just waiting until the little bit of water retention I have, due to it being Shark Week is gone, lol.
Post workout selfie:
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OdieM
Banned
You chicks are so funny and so hard on yalls self. I don't see any bloat. You look great.
Good looking workout you had. I do shoulders before I do bis as well and it sucks cause my shoulders are on fire for the rest of the workout. Sounds like you may of had a similar experience. No pain no gain.
Great log Crystal. I wouldn't think cutting your dose by 2.5mg would be to noticeable but then again it doesn't take much for you lady's to see results on it. Keep us posted.
Good looking workout you had. I do shoulders before I do bis as well and it sucks cause my shoulders are on fire for the rest of the workout. Sounds like you may of had a similar experience. No pain no gain.
Great log Crystal. I wouldn't think cutting your dose by 2.5mg would be to noticeable but then again it doesn't take much for you lady's to see results on it. Keep us posted.
SolidChemistry
Member
Lookin' good ...Lower body lookin' powerful too there.
I'm with OdieM - women are so hard on themselves and make themselves miserable over nothing. At least BlueDress does that all the time. 10,000 "bricks" make up make a beautiful wall - and she seems to see the only one imperfect brick...
Also on shoulders. You don't need big weight for big shoulders. With 8 muscles connecting the most unstable joint in the human body, it doesn't take a lot of weight to train them with good form - nor injure them when you aren't strict. Stick with your plan for lower weight and high volume. Good to shock them and mix it up too. At a girl.
I'm with OdieM - women are so hard on themselves and make themselves miserable over nothing. At least BlueDress does that all the time. 10,000 "bricks" make up make a beautiful wall - and she seems to see the only one imperfect brick...
Also on shoulders. You don't need big weight for big shoulders. With 8 muscles connecting the most unstable joint in the human body, it doesn't take a lot of weight to train them with good form - nor injure them when you aren't strict. Stick with your plan for lower weight and high volume. Good to shock them and mix it up too. At a girl.
Crystal234
New Member
Haha, I am hard on myself from time to time, but more so during Shark Week. Lol
Yes! My shoulders were burning like craaazy, even when I was just doing biceps with baby dumbells. I woke up this morning and my shoulders and arms were feeling nice and tight, plus I got that good next day pain going on. I'm such a masochist, ha. But really, my arms and shoulders haven't had DOMS in quite a while and it's a welcoming feeling. Thanks again for your advice!
Crystal234
New Member
Awe, you are very sweet. I know exactly the way BlueDress feels. It's hard not to nitpick at the imperfections. For me at least. Definitely going to work on more positive thinking.
Really glad to hear I can still build nice size without having to go heavy on the shoulders. It was a really nice change from my usual routine of going heavy with less reps. I also didn't have any shoulder pain afterward, like I usually do. Huge plus.
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