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tengtren
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GdaddyGains
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How do you prevent the water rebound with dyazide?
GdaddyGains
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How do you typically cycle your novalog to prevent insulin resistance?
This is my first go so I don’t have a “typical” yet. None on off days, and if I’m not mistaken, low doses once a day aren’t going to lead to insulin resistance much like low dosing of gH. Could be wrong. If got a coach who’s on top of it though.
GdaddyGains
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Mike Arnold suggests 5 days per week using novalog or humalin R pre workout with the addition of Berberine supplemented 500 mg 3x per day should prevent insulin resistance and maybe improve it.
I may try this protocol when I transition into a growth phase.
Do you watch your sodium when you take the diuretic to prevent rebound due to mineral retention when you come off?
I may try this protocol when I transition into a growth phase.
Do you watch your sodium when you take the diuretic to prevent rebound due to mineral retention when you come off?
I don’t do sodium loads or anything nuts. A tiny bit of dieuretic, water only to match my carb intake.
That sounds solid and is what I’m doing. I’m on a. 4 on 1 off training schedule so that’s my slin schedule. Berberine is being taken as is a GDA product.
First solid shit in 3 days today. Amazing. Down 6lbs since Saturday. Need to fill back up and get back on prep schedule.
Back/Bis
1. HS Pullover - 4 build up sets a an 8 rep max set
2. HS High Row - 4x8-15 with two hands then one heavy set of 8 single handed
3. Wide Grip Pulldowns - 4x8-12
4. VBar Cable Rows - 5x6-10
5. DB Rev Flye - 3x12
6. One set of pull-ups followed by chin-ups to failure before switching and then to failure again
7. DB Curls - 3x8-12
8. Seated High Curl Machine - 8 reps on each arm to failure
Back/Bis
1. HS Pullover - 4 build up sets a an 8 rep max set
2. HS High Row - 4x8-15 with two hands then one heavy set of 8 single handed
3. Wide Grip Pulldowns - 4x8-12
4. VBar Cable Rows - 5x6-10
5. DB Rev Flye - 3x12
6. One set of pull-ups followed by chin-ups to failure before switching and then to failure again
7. DB Curls - 3x8-12
8. Seated High Curl Machine - 8 reps on each arm to failure
If anyone’s curious about what happens when you’re eating 6k cals and suddenly can’t process food for 2-3 days. Screw your diet. Get sick.
Jankauskas
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Aesthetic af man, time to get pneumonia.
88general88
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Lorazepam aka ativan. Depending on the mg dose, and method of administration, it can do wonders, or knock you the fuck out. Ativan has a long half-life which makes it tricky to dose properly for anxiety. The onset effect is also longer so when you are looking for something to help with your anxiety quickly, Ativan is not the best option, unless it is taken sublingually, or you shoot it. (Klonopin .5mg-1mg is far superior, taken sublingually)
Personally, I think gabapentin is garbage. It’s usually what a doctor will prescribe because they don’t want to prescribe a benzo. It’s a 100 yr old drug that is meant to calm the NERVES. It is not something that provides the type of relief when someone is NERVOUS. I am a true believer that if used properly nothing compares to benzos. Which sucks, because the sides effect of using them long term are life threatening.(trust me when I tell you this)
Zoloft is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, Ssri. Zoloft works on serotonin, just like HCG does on LH. It ignites the receptor to start producing serotonin, naturally little by little. Weight gain is imminent, and when it comes to recieving any type of relief from anxiety, it is not fast and you are lucky if you get any relief at all. Supposedly, after roughly 45days some relief can be seen. I never felt any. Unfortunately, I have a lot of experience with all three. I was diagnosed w/Generalized anxiety disorder, and PTSD. Benzo’s are fucking awesome, but just like a lady, they should never be abused, if they are...they become a vindictive bitch that will make you pay dearly. I really hope this helps. I haven’t taken any medication for anxiety in over 4months. I found nothing gets rid of my anxiety like running, lifting, fucking, and a 600mgs of Sustanon.
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Rockclimber
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As far as your wife's anxiety is it a general Daily anxiety? Or is it a more of an on/off anxiety something she gets it when the in-laws are in town or when a big test is coming up Etc? If it's a daily sort of anxiety the drugs are going to be completely different than a one-off event. For one-off events I would recommend Xanax which is a benzodiazepine. It's highly addictive so you don't want to take it every single day because tolerance is build up. Valium works wonders as well but is slower to be introduced into the blood than Xanax.
I know people say that these drugs are addictive and can ruin lives but personally I have purchased thousands of these pills over the years and never had a problem using them. I can go years and years without needing them but when doing depositions or something with the SEC I'll find myself reaching for them just to be able to sleep at night and it's a good thing to have them on hand for on off anxiety. Obviously it's best to run all this by your doctor but sometimes they don't give you the proper drugs or many times I should say they give you the wrong drug because they're fearful of giving you the correct one which might be Valium.
I know people say that these drugs are addictive and can ruin lives but personally I have purchased thousands of these pills over the years and never had a problem using them. I can go years and years without needing them but when doing depositions or something with the SEC I'll find myself reaching for them just to be able to sleep at night and it's a good thing to have them on hand for on off anxiety. Obviously it's best to run all this by your doctor but sometimes they don't give you the proper drugs or many times I should say they give you the wrong drug because they're fearful of giving you the correct one which might be Valium.
88general88
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Valium is a good option. I forget which anabolic review did a spotlight on Valium, but it there definitely a place for it in bodybuilding. Lowers cortisol. 5mg Valium is worthless imo. All benzos can be taken sublingually, relief within 5mins. Again clonazepam is your best bet, in moderation, or go the route of research Chems and grab her some etizolam. It a shame that the fda passed on its use in the United States. Still addictive however, much safer than what is available on the US market.
88general88
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I second that. Wellbutrin is drug that is over looked quite a bit. If some pretty impressive qualities. Nice work kim !!!
88general88
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Hey buddy I was diagnosed with PTSD too. My nite terrors we’re out of control for years until my doc wrote me a script for prazosin(a.k.a minipress) Which, just so happens to be one of the best-over looked blood pressure meds available.
might not make sense but he hit the nail on the head. They introduce live strains to the body in a dose that the body can familiarize itself with and beat the fuck out of it. However, mutations are imminent, when it comes to virus’ I believe that by introducing the virus to the body, significantly lowers the immune system and leave the body vulnerable to other bacteria, and virus’
88general88
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PGCL. ???!!!@Mac11wildcat ill let u in on a precontest secret from the ten g camp... bad fish and dyazide
tengtren
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I don't understand
88general88
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Are you guys familiar with PGCL??? He mentioned that he was trying to work around having to deal with diarrhea, and he is prepping for a contest, so the first thing that came to Mind was PGCL, and maybe he was using it. PGCL is Site specific fat destroying compound. Unlike dnp, PGCL is an injectable compound, and works through a different avenue. It is not a uncoupler, and like I said can be used to rid the areas of the body which tend to hold onto that stubborn adipose tissue. Used mainly during the final stages of contest prep Work.
When I think of bodybuilding and some of the compounds that we use to achieve the results that we are in search for, and some of them can be extremely dangerous if not used correctly. Three compounds come to mind, Insulin, diNITR0 and PGCL. Even though I do t know anyone of you on a personal level, I choose to not blow smoke ul your ass and lie to you so ... if you if you would like more info on the compound please google it, I do t want to give anyone bad info. Thanks
When I think of bodybuilding and some of the compounds that we use to achieve the results that we are in search for, and some of them can be extremely dangerous if not used correctly. Three compounds come to mind, Insulin, diNITR0 and PGCL. Even though I do t know anyone of you on a personal level, I choose to not blow smoke ul your ass and lie to you so ... if you if you would like more info on the compound please google it, I do t want to give anyone bad info. Thanks
Hey
bear with my poor English
since your wife is under psychotrop medication, a formal psychiatric diagnosis must have been done, and you ought to expect more than "anxiety", because global anxiety disorder (GAD) for instance is different than a major depressive disorder (MDD) of medium severity with commorbid anxiety or a PTSD or aggoraphobia or god knows what as the scpectrum of anxiety disorder is very wild, but if you want help in understanding those meds the first thing you need to know is why they're prescribed, as again "anxiety" is way to vague a diagnosis
Lorazepam is perhaps one of the most - if not the most - addictive benzodiazepine there is, its still not perfectly understood as to why since the half life isnt that short, but it's probably the worst BZD to be prescribing - along with bromazepam
Now while the addictive properties of BZD are often focused on because of the possiblity people will take more and more of it and manage to come off, the risk of this happening on a woman with no personal or family history of substance abuse are still low
What is ALWAYS true tho is the tolerance effect patients will develop using BZD long term, which is why its supposed to be prescribed for no longer than 12 weeks - that does include the tappering phase; because regardless of wether or not your wife develops addiction from it (again, even if its lorazepam, chances arent that high), the tolerance effect WILL be there and few months from now the axiolytic effects of that drug will have vanished
there is NO REASON in ANY ANXIETY DISORDER to prescribe a BZD long term (past 3 months)
they're only here to be helping until the long term medication takes effect, then you're done with them
An exception to this would be youre wife going through panic attacks once in a while (hence not classifying as panic disorder), then taking a short onset BZD such as alprazolam or oxazepam to cut short the panic attack symptoms would be a reasonable decision, but that again has to be very occasionnal to be a viable approach
as you've been told zoloft is an SSRI, with a very good tolerance profile (often limited to transient abdominals disconfort upon starting the medication or increasing dosage), though all SSRI share common side effects which are almost always gone in a few days
Zoloft has virtually no impact as far as weight and sedation goes which makes it a very good first line treatment
SRRI have anxiolytic properties and are usually the first line treatment of a vast majority of anxiety spectrum disorder
The time it takes for SSRI to be effective in anxiety usually is longer than for mood disorders so uzing a BZD at the begining of the treatment is sometimes chosen IF THE ANXIETY IS SEVERE - i guess you could call it "kick starting" much like orals during a cycle, again, if doing so, BZD prescription must end quickly thereafter
dosages of zoloft may vary greatly upon individuals and can go as high as 450mg a day depending on the undividuals tolerance
Neurontin is a second line - if not third - adjunctive treatment in some anxiety disorders and its usage is justified only after failure of properly dosed ISSR - which from where i stand doesnt look like its the case
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