Guys you have to see this... Dave Palumbo rips Vigorous Steve

[Juicedhead]

Sorry if this is the wrong section but this is fucking awsome. Dave palumbo rips steve a new ass here. Im so glad that someone went on record and said that steve doesnt know shit. Thank you dave.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPikmJy718

 

[Sapopeluo]

I like Palumbo a lot! But this just seems aiming to get views…

Both guys makes awesome content

Sorry if this is the wrong section but this is fucking awsome. Dave palumbo rips steve a new ass here. Im so glad that someone went on record and said that steve doesnt know shit. Thank you dave.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPikmJy718

 

[Juicedhead]

I like Palumbo a lot! But this just seems aiming to get views…

Both guys makes awesome content

I really think dave is just sick of the bullshit from these guys who literally just read wikipedia and studies and all of the sudden they are gurus. Im sick of it too, derek from moreplates, steve. All these guys are the reason 250mg of test is now considered a cycle and subq injecting oil gear is now a thing.

 

[Juicedhead]

Dave always gives out really good info on gear and anything bodybuilding related. People dont like it because the answers are simple but thats the truth about it. Its simple things that are done on daily basis for long periods of time that build a champion bodybiuilder. Its not some crazy over complicated process. Im not making this up i saw a video of steve saying how to use tren safety and the guy literally lists off like 10 ancillaries that you would need to take to run tren "safely" the costs of the ancillaries alone would be insane. Not to mention tren cant be used safely. He just over complicates the hell out of it.

 

[DarkStalker]

Dave always gives out really good info on gear and anything bodybuilding related. People dont like it because the answers are simple but thats the truth about it. Its simple things that are done on daily basis for long periods of time that build a champion bodybiuilder. Its not some crazy over complicated process. Im not making this up i saw a video of steve saying how to use tren safety and the guy literally lists off like 10 ancillaries that you would need to take to run tren "safely" the costs of the ancillaries alone would be insane. Not to mention tren cant be used safely. He just over complicates the hell out of it.

Yup, also in a video he comes up with a beginner cycle with a shit load of ass

 

[Mongo966]

Sorry if this is the wrong section but this is fucking awsome. Dave palumbo rips steve a new ass here. Im so glad that someone went on record and said that steve doesnt know shit. Thank you dave.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPikmJy718

Ballsy move to call out Dave of all people lol Listening to Vigorous Steve about anything is a waste of precious time. There are so many better resources out there, Dave being one of them.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

With respect to his longevity in the space, Dave doesn’t know shit anymore either. His knowledgebase is strictly from his time competing and he refuses to learn and massage his views with available understanding we have of all bodybuilding topics from 20+ additional years of trial, error, and scientific approach. He needs to let go and understand we’ve advanced out of the Bronze Age that was 90s bodybuilding.

 

[buzzingonaas]

Dave has put out a ton of bullshit too. Without watching that video at all, could all be true, but I can confidently say Dave Palumbo is not a reliable information source and creates a lot of clickbait these days

 

[eery]

Im looking forward to this "debate"


Good post, shitty title.

 

[ChevChelios]

Tbh I fw both of em but yeah I wouldn’t be taking advice from either one of em regarding srs shit, I fw Dave cos he was one of the OGs at being honest bout all this stuff n Steve cos he reminds me of some homies of mine who also live in Thailand n I do enjoy some of the sciencey stuff although he is similar to MPMD in that he will say shit just to be more verbose so dumb kids will think he’s an expert.

But yeah both of em ain’t as smart as they think/put out to be, doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy their content, shit for example Gregg Valentino is pretty corny sometimes but I still like his stories n experience is always useful regardless of the medium.

People that should be way more promoted are guys like Jamie Lewis (plague of strength/chaos and pain are/were his blogs n he did some interviews n vids recently with an Aussie guy who is pretty dope too, check him out) he doesn’t even mention gear much as he ain’t an expert there but training wise I learned so much from him it’s insane n it was all free, guy is chill af too n held world records in PL just doin it for shits n giggles to prove that it’s just effort n nutrition (hard fkin work) instead of some magical program or diet

 

[DECLAN]

Looks like a fitness influencer doing their job to get views and make money to me. Nothing new.

 

[patriotmuscle1]

This shit gets old .. but I honestly have learned more from Vigorous Steve then Dave Palumbo. To be fair I don't watch much of Dave's content. His topics and videos don't draw me in like Steve's do. They both coach and have the successful clients to back up there theories or their way of coaching..
If I personally had a choice to be coached by either one I'd pick Steve. For reasons of I believe I will be healthier and probably better looking at the end. Thays my opinion is all. I have respect for what each of them add to the BBing community 100%.

 

[patriotmuscle1]

Looks like a fitness influencer doing their job to get views and make money to me. Nothing new.

Absolutely.. well said sir!

 

[cmK9s33]

I really think dave is just sick of the bullshit from these guys who literally just read wikipedia and studies and all of the sudden they are gurus. Im sick of it too, derek from moreplates, steve. All these guys are the reason 250mg of test is now considered a cycle and subq injecting oil gear is now a thing.

Actually, doctors were doing it well before influencers were suggesting it.

 

[Juicedhead]

Not saying dave knows all but I agree with a lot of what he says and I have done what he says with crazy results. But its so fucking disrespectful for steve to shit on dave. Dave is an OG in this game, I know a lot of people dont like him but like ive said everthing I have implemented into my training, gear, diet from dave has worked well.

 

[Juicedhead]

Actually, doctors were doing it well before influencers were suggesting it.

Doctors were injecting a substance that says right on the bottle for intramuscular injection? Idk id find a different doctor.

 

[readalot]

250mg of test is now considered a cycle

250 mg/week of test ester most definitely is a supraphysiologic dosing regimen for almost every human being. More guys should understand this and do more with less drugs (especially the AAS naive / beginner). I'm reading guys on here running 500 mg/week after 6 months of "training". Plenty of great reasons to get your feet wet on reasonably dosed test "cycle" if you are going to play, especially since you don't know how you will react.

Thanks for the videos. These guys have little theoretical / mechanistic understanding of what they are talking about. And few have any requisite education. They are entertainers. Well entertainers with some experiences.

Dave sounds a little perturbed that he could have been an MD.

Beware the Gurus.

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[ThinkDeroid]

Drama for drama queen viewers.

 

[Eddie.]

I like Vigorous because he has a shitton of knowledge and always shares the citations for everything he says. I many times disagree with what he's saying, don't like his attitude and arrogance and from the moment you state you're here to spread the knowledge and stay away from the drama then fuckin do it man, no need to bash palumbo which he's an loser anyways or any other or liver king no matter what the fuck happened. Someone clarify please, wasn't palumbo selling fake seros 20 years ago trying to scam people? I remember some of them went to jail. This is true, ain't it? Because if it is, i can't trust anything that comes out from him.

 

[Jin23]

Palumbo is a quack. Steve is a bit better, but still a BPD "know it all" influencer.

And for the love of good, stop talking about mg's and start talking about ng/dl's. 250mg's is around 2000 to 2500 ng/dl at Tmax for a lot of people, with free T being a lot more then only 3x supra levels and that certainly constitutes as a cycle. For those for whom 250mg's equals only up to 1250 ng/dl, I agree, that's a waste, but still, if one wants to be careful, more power to him.

Don't make this in to an ideological debate. Only morons who don't have enough knowledge to compose proper arguments turn to populist ideologies and this thread certainly does contain some of the meso's finest; so newb's reading this thread, be advised.