Guys you have to see this... Dave Palumbo rips Vigorous Steve

dave is a clown and snake oil salesman

anyone with proper education and knowledge have debunked dave many times. and his stupid comments in regards to cbum and sam sulek have turned him into the laughing stock of the bodybuilding world
 
And Steve is all right, but he thinks all ugl is dirty, which we all know is not true. Good for him he's living in Thailand so he has access to pharma grade steroids for relatively cheap price.

I have lived a very long time in Thailand. The pharmacy I went to had Alpha Pharma in stock 2 years after it got busted. The HGH I bought was random China generic. The HCG was some random China generic as well.

Thailand is basically "generic China" "pharma grade" stuff sold in Pharmacies. I doubt it's any better than from the UGL in EU/US.
 
I have lived a very long time in Thailand. The pharmacy I went to had Alpha Pharma in stock 2 years after it got busted. The HGH I bought was random China generic. The HCG was some random China generic as well.

Thailand is basically "generic China" "pharma grade" stuff sold in Pharmacies. I doubt it's any better than from the UGL in EU/US.
Interesting, good to know. Perhaps real pharma stuff is pricey and you need certain connections then.
 
And Steve is all right, but he thinks all ugl is dirty, which we all know is not true. Good for him he's living in Thailand so he has access to pharma grade steroids for relatively cheap price.
He still uses ugl deca (before getting off obviously) but he's careful with sourcing. He says buy only from trusted sources, ask them what solvents and carrier oil they use, buy bulk and send a sample to janoshik to verify it's legit. He's just careful and tbh if i had his money i would stick to pharma too. Also from Thailand he buys only the Bayer testoviron. Primo, HGH and HCG he buys from Turkey.
 
Hope this threads help to shut up the anti subq crowd spamming their nonsense in many other threads.

I can do both IM and subq and both works - subq doesn't work with all gear as it gives fat lumps and super pip sometimes. I suspect lower quality gear and/or that I hit a blood vessel.

The medical rule of thumb is no more than 1ml subq in the same spot. I have injected test cyp, primo, and NPP hundreds of times subq in my buttcheek with zero noticeable lumps or red spots. I keep my injections under 1ml per spot and usually just do ED or EOD injections under .7ml.

PIP from primo and NPP absolutely sucks if you dont warm the oil in boiling water first. Then its a nonexistent pip.
 
And Steve is all right, but he thinks all ugl is dirty, which we all know is not true. Good for him he's living in Thailand so he has access to pharma grade steroids for relatively cheap price.
I agree he goes way too hard on the UGL’s like his physique wasn’t built on them, like all of us.
 
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