Guys you have to see this... Dave Palumbo rips Vigorous Steve

[Pulpfiction]

It’s hard for me to find one solid guy who spits nothing but pure fact every time they share on YouTube. Don’t get me wrong I’ve heard many great things from many great people, pros of the past and present, but what I’ve learned is what works for one person may not work for the other. An old friend I know used to get coached by Dave and Steve I don’t listen much to, not because I don’t like him but because as far as my body goes I’ve gotten much better info from other guys. I apply and if it works I stick with it. It also doesn’t take much now a days other than great marketing to be considered a “fitness pro”. There’s guys with horrible form who have great physiques because let’s be honest you don’t have to have great form to induce hypertrophy, you’ll just get banged up a lot quicker. You have dudes that look insane who end up dying a few years later due to complications with aas. All in all one dudes advice may go hand in hand with one dude and not well with another , who knows lol

 

[readalot]

One of my favorite authors. Glad you brought him up.

Spoiler: Funny (scary) quotation

I can remember Bertrand Russell telling me of a horrible dream. He was in the top floor of the University Library, about A.D. 2100. A library assistant was going round the shelves carrying an enormous bucket, taking down books, glancing at them, restoring them to the shelves or dumping them into the bucket. At last he came to three large volumes which Russell could recognize as the last surviving copy of Principia Mathematica. He took down one of the volumes, turned over a few pages, seemed puzzled for a moment by the curious symbolism, closed the volume, balanced it in his hand and hesitated....

G. H. Hardy, A Mathematician's Apology (1940) p. 83

 

[AlexDavis43]

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Man up. 23 Guage? Puny and weak.

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Worked my way up to 23 but it takes so damn long

Yes warming it and thin oils.

*this is for blasts, not minimal volume for TRT which is fine with tiny pins

 

[ThinkDeroid]

It’s hard for me to find one solid guy who spits nothing but pure fact every time they share on YouTube.

Look at Sean Strickland clips.

 

[AlexDavis43]

buy bulk and send a sample to janoshik to verify it's legit.

Has Steve ever sent a sample for testing? He's not playing 4-D chess on youtube.

 

[AlexDavis43]

It's for clicks. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve and Dave discussed this in advance. Just like Steve/MPMD/Liver King. Publicity stunts.

 

[lukiss96]

It's for clicks. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve and Dave discussed this in advance. Just like Steve/MPMD/Liver King. Publicity stunts.

They all start out by putting out quality videos, but then as they understand the fact to get more and more subs you need to entertain them and not to bore them, so they create drama as it's the best entertainment for the masses.

 

[lift4lyfe]

Yeah did 5 months in 2004 for selling fake HGH.
Dave's only notable contribution to bodybuilding "PALUMBOISM" .

Holy shit never put 2 and 2 together that it was named after Dave

Palumboism | BUBBLE GUT: The Worst Cases and How to Reverse It!

Learn more about Palumboism! We show you some of the worst cases in men and women, how to reverse it and more about the man himself: Dave Palumbo.

www.phactual.com

 

[ChevChelios]

Finally a reply with a little common sence. I'm disappointed in all the well known members responses to this should have been siminlar.

That's like saying f arnold he dident know shit lmao.

It's the human body, do u think it has evolved over the past 40 years compared to the what 100,000s of thousands we have been around.

Yea the reason behind it is steve started firing shots at dave for views, when like u said Steve probably learned alot of shit from Dave's info hes put out over the past what 30+ years?

This should be common sense but you should know by now that our sport is a fkin mess when it comes to any type of giving props to others as we are all egotistical mfkas who have a narcissistic vibe (idk maybe I’m projecting but ik I am that way n so are many of my other homies who lift seriously), add in hormones n other drugs n you get a huge group of people who have a superiority complex (even when it’s amateurs n not pros, shit most pros are way more chill than the amateurs). N that means that any time there’s any new info everyone who is on the new wave will shit on everyone before them, not understanding that it’s all part of the game n they wouldn’t be the new wave if it wasn’t for the people that made that possible beforehand (I make music n produce for lots of hip hop artists n we have the same issue in my other industry, everyone hates anyone who isn’t from their same era n talks shit bout the OGs/talks shit bout the new guys).

It’s just the nature of the sport n the people drawn to it, if you check powerlifting they have their own issues but are a lot less problematic on this side of things as the vibe is different (n that’s why I fw most strength sports as it gives more variety n I enjoy bbing but I train in a more powerbuilding way so it’s useful for programming too in my case). Tbh the only group I’m not a huge fan of is the oly lifters (amateurs) cos they are so brainwashed from the Olympic committee that they think top level athletes ain’t doping n when one gets caught they act like it’s cheating when in reality it’s far from it, but hey oly lifters are, at least here in the states, a bunch of nerds who would rather bitch bout next man’s AAS usage than get their own self stronger smh

 

[ChevChelios]

it started with steve saying daves fertility protcol is horseshit. Steves actual words were horseshit. I was a kid in the 90s too im 30. But the reason I like dave is because he just makes it really simple and Ive always found that that is what most people are going to actually be able to use the information and learn from it. Being a wanna be scientist like steve and spitting out all this crazy big words and shit info no one can even use becaue they dont understand wtf hes even trying to say.

Yeah I feel ya on that bro, even as a fan of Steve’s I think he fked up by saying that as he might know some stuff but the truth is half of that he wouldn’t know if it wasn’t for Dave’s contributions n the others who did all the leg work n experimented on themselves (cos Steve is cool n all but he ain’t doing anything on the level of a Peter grymkowski or others who literally put their own health on the line just to find out what AAS could do n how they worked), sounds fkin dumb though like both of em are acting like lil kids dissin each other over personal protocols, like this shit ain’t supposed to be dogmatic, what works for one might work the opposite for another so imo we should all be a lot more flexible n accept what others say as we could both learn something n we don’t know if they already tried whatever protocol we think is best but maybe it didn’t work for them in the same way.

Sorry for the rant btw I’m just bored n kinda tweakin off some dexamphetamine (I recently got a script which I occasionally use when I have a long work day n yeah shits awesome but makes me ramble ahah)

Idk why people take these every day y’all missing the real effect that way like shit then y’all just need em to even focus on basic shit, the best way to use stims is only when needed so they still pack a punch (n considering the shortages n current price of stuff at the pharmacy I’d say the same is even useful for avoiding getting left without any but hey maybe that’s just me )

 

[BachmanityInsanity]

Sorry if this is the wrong section but this is fucking awsome. Dave palumbo rips steve a new ass here. Im so glad that someone went on record and said that steve doesnt know shit. Thank you dave.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPikmJy718

What I did find interesting was Dave saying gene therapy will be the next PED and in 10 to 20 years (the last innovatiun being Igf—1 in the 90’s)

 

[BachmanityInsanity]

Meatheads that feel more manly by using larger needles and going down that extra inch should feel free to do so, though

I always do subq for my TRT and it’s either enanthate or cyp, both pharmacy because I use a trt clinic. No welts and my test level is very consistent and predictable subq.
Another thing is definitely does not feel like abusing a drug doing subq (even if doing it on cycle twice a day)

Putting 2ml IM into each thigh, or deltoid or glute definitely feels like drug use and the longer the needle the more it feels like this!

 

[lukiss96]

I always do subq for my TRT and it’s either enanthate or cyp, both pharmacy because I use a trt clinic. No welts and my test level is very consistent and predictable subq.
Another thing is definitely does not feel like abusing a drug doing subq (even if doing it on cycle twice a day)

Putting 2ml IM into each thigh, or deltoid or glute definitely feels like drug use and the longer the needle the more it feels like this!

Possibly it's person dependent. I use insuling or regular syringes whichever is convenient for me at that point. I feel the same, injection is injection, I just think I have to do it and that's all. I know I'm using steroids and I'm comfortable with it. As for injections itself, sure a regular syringe is more intimidating after you get used to insulin ones, but you get used back to it pretty quickly and it's just as easy to inject.

 

[ThinkDeroid]

I always do subq for my TRT and it’s either enanthate or cyp, both pharmacy because I use a trt clinic. No welts and my test level is very consistent and predictable subq.
Another thing is definitely does not feel like abusing a drug doing subq (even if doing it on cycle twice a day)

Putting 2ml IM into each thigh, or deltoid or glute definitely feels like drug use and the longer the needle the more it feels like this!

My cardiologist says it's an addiction. So, yeah, it's drug use. It's abusing drugs.

 

[BachmanityInsanity]

My cardiologist says it's an addiction. So, yeah, it's drug use. It's abusing drugs.

Yeah I’d agree with both addiction and abuse. The abuse is obviously a spectrum scale. I’ve found almost every person is addicted to something. No 1 is probably caffeine, no 2 is food - sugar mainly- and one of the most harmful addictions
Everyone round here is on the cusp of type2 dierbetes. My understanding is that is catastrophic for health span and longevity.
1 in 5 round here also vape and that puts ur blood pressure up as much as moderate steroid cycle

 

[ChevChelios]

What I did find interesting was Dave saying gene therapy will be the next PED and in 10 to 20 years (the last innovatiun being Igf—1 in the 90’s)

He ain’t wrong mane I’d say the biggest change will come when we can do gene manipulation like they do with those uber cows, some sort of myostatin inhibiting mechanism n people will be walking around like fkin hulk (add in hefty amounts of AAS to that n we might have the first person to ever die from becoming so muscular they crush their internal organs)

 

[ChevChelios]

Possibly it's person dependent. I use insuling or regular syringes whichever is convenient for me at that point. I feel the same, injection is injection, I just think I have to do it and that's all. I know I'm using steroids and I'm comfortable with it. As for injections itself, sure a regular syringe is more intimidating after you get used to insulin ones, but you get used back to it pretty quickly and it's just as easy to inject.

Yeah it’s person dependent, I don’t really understand how SQ is ‘not a drug’ but IM is a drug cmon now ik the SQ n IM people always have to be butting heads but there’s a reason why IM is the golden standard, it’s not just some ‘meathead shit’ like the guy wrote, to each their own but just cos someone isn’t down with jamming a needle a bit deeper in themselves than others shouldn’t make them feel somehow superior, shit at the most IM people are superior cos we ain’t scared to stick 2” all the way in the muscle ahah

But I repeat to each their own

 

[ChevChelios]

My cardiologist says it's an addiction. So, yeah, it's drug use. It's abusing drugs.

I would say maybe psychologically addicting but physically it’s more of a dependence due to the HPTA not doing it’s thing while we take stuff, an addiction is a different thing like how many people do you know who are on the street suckin cocks for roids? (Well tbh I’m sure that exists but I doubt it’s common ahah)

 

[Mongo966]

I would say maybe psychologically addicting but physically it’s more of a dependence due to the HPTA not doing it’s thing while we take stuff, an addiction is a different thing like how many people do you know who are on the street suckin cocks for roids? (Well tbh I’m sure that exists but I doubt it’s common ahah)

I don't know how many dicks are getting sucked for roids but I know a lot of them are getting sucked because of them.

 

[laclark89]

Just stop this now. Sq is for manginas ok. Lol
I have a vial of pharma from a trt clinic, guess What it has printed on it? For IM use only!

How the f do u feel more like a addict when using 2.5 or 3ml 1 - 1 1/2". Do.u think junkies use a 23 ga to inject iv?

It took me a while just to get usto gh shots with a slin pin cuz i felt dirty, after all the years I've been seeing real addicts with them.