Guys you have to see this... Dave Palumbo rips Vigorous Steve

[lukiss96]

Sometimes my local pharmacies say they don't have any insulin syringes available, I asked some pharmacists why, they said it's because of junkies, I was surprised, but it's very popular among them.

 

[laclark89]

Sometimes my local pharmacies say they don't have any insulin syringes available, I asked some pharmacists why, they said it's because of junkies, I was surprised, but it's very popular among them.

That's all they use. In some countries in us an probably some places in eu they give them slim pins for free and will exchange old ones for new 1s i think for diseases an such.

 

[Jabroni_Meathead]

Just stop this now. Sq is for manginas ok. Lol
I have a vial of pharma from a trt clinic, guess What it has printed on it? For IM use only!

How the f do u feel more like a addict when using 2.5 or 3ml 1 - 1 1/2". Do.u think junkies use a 23 ga to inject iv?

It took me a while just to get usto gh shots with a slin pin cuz i felt dirty, after all the years I've been seeing real addicts with them.

All of my RX test cyp says IM only because the FDA didnt approve it for subq. BUT if you google for three seconds, you'll find a dozen studies how subq causes slower absorption, less spikes, and keeps e2 low. Below is just two:

Testosterone Therapy With Subcutaneous Injections: A Safe, Practical, and Reasonable Option

Subcutaneous Injection of Testosterone Is an Effective and Preferred Alternative to Intramuscular Injection: Demonstration in Female-to-Male Transgender Patients

 

[laclark89]

All of my RX test cyp says IM only because the FDA didnt approve it for subq. BUT if you google for three seconds, you'll find a dozen studies how subq causes slower absorption, less spikes, and keeps e2 low. Below is just two:

Testosterone Therapy With Subcutaneous Injections: A Safe, Practical, and Reasonable Option

Subcutaneous Injection of Testosterone Is an Effective and Preferred Alternative to Intramuscular Injection: Demonstration in Female-to-Male Transgender Patients

I've read about it and heard all I need too.
Message the fda that. I usually try and stick to something that's recommended from my dr.
Too much mpmd and Steve lol.

thats also why we pinn IM eod or twice a week even long esters. Very few people these days pinn once a week. So ur response is kinda pointless.

On top of that I was mainly talking about how can someone feel more like a junkie with a IM pin over a slin pin. Makes no damn sence.

 

[Jabroni_Meathead]

I've read about it and heard all I need too.
Message the fda that. I usually try and stick to something that's recommended from my dr.
Too much mpmd and Steve lol.

thats also why we pinn IM eod or twice a week even long esters. Very few people these days pinn once a week. So ur response is kinda pointless.

On top of that I was mainly talking about how can someone feel more like a junkie with a IM pin over a slin pin. Makes no damn sence.

Heard all you need but wont follow recent science? You are a bro arent you?
You think masks work for covid too? LOL

I inject three times a week subq with slin pins. Works perfect and my doctor(s) recommended it.

 

[laclark89]

All of my RX test cyp says IM only because the FDA didnt approve it for subq. BUT if you google for three seconds, you'll find a dozen studies how subq causes slower absorption, less spikes, and keeps e2 low. Below is just two:

Testosterone Therapy With Subcutaneous Injections: A Safe, Practical, and Reasonable Option

Subcutaneous Injection of Testosterone Is an Effective and Preferred Alternative to Intramuscular Injection: Demonstration in Female-to-Male Transgender Patients

By the way I dident mean to offend anyone with the mangina joke lol it's not personal, just my opinion. I know those bug long needles an be intimidating.

 

[laclark89]

Heard all you need but wont follow recent science? You are a bro arent you?
You think masks work for covid too? LOL

I inject three times a week subq with slin pins. Works perfect and my doctor(s) recommended it.

Cool, i agree there. But u think it's a big difference sub q vs IM if ur pining 3 times a week a long ester?

 

[Jabroni_Meathead]

Cool, i agree there. But u think it's a big difference sub q vs IM if ur pining 3 times a week a long ester?

I was doing subq twice a week but back acne was popping up. Three times a week made it go away. Test levels are stable every day of the week.

 

[laclark89]

I was doing subq twice a week but back acne was popping up. Three times a week made it go away. Test levels are stable every day of the week.

When I first started ,One shot a week I definitely could feel the peak and valley and think my acne was worse also.

But 2 shots a week i dont notice anything physically.
Now days I try an do 3 just because it's easier to remember for me an less volume, an mabe a tad more stable but i doubt anything significant.

 

[lukiss96]

You gotta remember everyone is different for some im vs sq and injection frequency is a game changer for others not so much.

There are lots of factors and no one way or method is better. I do what's best for me. No matter if it's the other way around and looks strange to others. As long as it works for me and I'm satisfied I don't care.

All I use now is Testo U and depending on dose, I use insulin or regular 2ml syringe if it doesn't fit in to 1ml. I do a single injection weekly. So until I blast again (maybe) I won't switch or change anything.

 

[DECLAN]

Lmao, the subq vs im debacle continues.

Bring back the primo vs mast debate instead.

 

[Pulpfiction]

I don't know how many dicks are getting sucked for roids but I know a lot of them are getting sucked because of them.

Absofucking lutlely. I’m married now but before when I was single and I had reached my all time best physique, all I had to do was take a photo shirtless on social media and booM, the dm’s were coming in hot! The juice scores again

 

[ChevChelios]

I don't know how many dicks are getting sucked for roids but I know a lot of them are getting sucked because of them.

Ahah fair enough well hey that way round I don’t mind at all, as long as it’s a gyal suckin me off I’m more than happy (n since I started AAS I have to say I enjoy head a lot more, before either she was super good or I wasn’t really feeling it but now I’m just loving jamming my pinga down a bitch throat).

But hey imo it’s cos I’m circumcised so I’m too desensitised for average head, when my ex used to do it I loved it though but she was a throat goat, looked all innocent n shit cos she half Asian but damn did that gyal create some sorta whirlpool black hole effect, ykno when u busy n they keep suckin n it feels like u finna fall down? Yeahhh that kinda shit

 

[ChevChelios]

Just stop this now. Sq is for manginas ok. Lol
I have a vial of pharma from a trt clinic, guess What it has printed on it? For IM use only!

How the f do u feel more like a addict when using 2.5 or 3ml 1 - 1 1/2". Do.u think junkies use a 23 ga to inject iv?

It took me a while just to get usto gh shots with a slin pin cuz i felt dirty, after all the years I've been seeing real addicts with them.

Thanks. I ain’t saying it’s only one way to do stuff but imo SQ is a bit of a cop out (unless it’s better for the individual, I’m referring to those who never tried IM n proclaim that SQ is superior even though it’s literally a secondary way of using the medication n a pretty unpredictable one at that).

Plus I really don’t understand how someone can think that’s different in any way to IM, y’all still sticking yourselves with a needle you just doin it shallower n in dumb places, it’s literally the same or worse but I repeat to each their own even tho I don’t understand it

 

[ChevChelios]

Sometimes my local pharmacies say they don't have any insulin syringes available, I asked some pharmacists why, they said it's because of junkies, I was surprised, but it's very popular among them.

Yeah slin pins are what most junkies use, u really thought they were doin 23g 1” n 1/2 long shots? They just grab the easy n slim slin pins n go to town, that’s also why I don’t understand how someone can think that IM is more druggy like when they literally using the druggy needles to do their SQ

 

[ThinkDeroid]

I would say maybe psychologically addicting but physically it’s more of a dependence due to the HPTA not doing it’s thing while we take stuff, an addiction is a different thing like how many people do you know who are on the street suckin cocks for roids? (Well tbh I’m sure that exists but I doubt it’s common ahah)

Yeah. My body is kinda depended on 1 gram gear.

 

[AlexDavis43]

What I did find interesting was Dave saying gene therapy will be the next PED and in 10 to 20 years (the last innovatiun being Igf—1 in the 90’s)

Follistatin/myostatin and it has already begun. So Palumbo is only off by 10 or 20 years.

 

[timfino]

I’ve really been liking a lot of the content and info John Jewett and j3u has been coming out with- definitely one of my favs.

 

[BachmanityInsanity]

Follistatin/myostatin and it has already begun. So Palumbo is only off by 10 or 20 years.

Can you tell me more about this?

 

[WeaponPharma]

Well I am disappointed reading this pile-on for Vigorous Steve who seems to me to be a gentleman, generous with his time and knowledge, and fiercely intelligent. He is a champion for safety and is always conscientiously imploring viewers to start slowly, to learn, and above all else to obtain constant testing to assess overall health.

He is the best possible resource, in my opinion, for vulnerable young blokes who would instead rely on old juice heads at the gym.

Everyone here seems to forget that English is his second language and each his videos starts off with an important disclaimer - he does not profess to be a doctor!

If we want an accessible doctor who we can anonymously obtain actual information on gear from, where do we go? Oh, that’s right, that bona fide snake oil salesman dr testostetonology.

This is not me saying palumbo is wrong or a grub or anything like that, but I cannot accept the Vigorous Steve is anything other than a force for good in a community sorely lacking in pragmatic, reasonable and trustworthy information sources