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[MamaLifts]

I feel a little freaked out even using a 1" on delts sometimes lol... Seems like it'll hit bone or something.

No joke there! While giving a delt injection a few years back I felt it hit the person's bone... the thought still makes me cringe Each person should definitely take a good look at how much fat and/or muscle tissue they have (or DON'T have, for that matter)!

I use 23g x 1" for my glute. That's what my husband is using so I figured I'd just use what I had on hand. He pushes more per injection than me, so a bigger gauge is good for that purpose. Wider/bigger gauge = less resistance & ability to push quicker. Since I'm only pushing .25mL at a time I can definitely afford to go smaller. Sooo going to switch to 25g for extra peace of mind

 

[Perrin Aybara]

No joke there! While giving a delt injection a few years back I felt it hit the person's bone... the thought still makes me cringe Each person should definitely take a good look at how much fat and/or muscle tissue they have (or DON'T have, for that matter)!

I use 23g x 1" for my glute. That's what my husband is using so I figured I'd just use what I had on hand. He pushes more per injection than me, so a bigger gauge is good for that purpose. Wider/bigger gauge = less resistance & ability to push quicker. Since I'm only pushing .25mL at a time I can definitely afford to go smaller. Sooo going to switch to 25g for extra peace of mind

You using a 1cc barrel or 3cc? I have no problem pushing through a 27g with a 1cc barrel.

 

[GearGodess]

No joke there! While giving a delt injection a few years back I felt it hit the person's bone... the thought still makes me cringe Each person should definitely take a good look at how much fat and/or muscle tissue they have (or DON'T have, for that matter)!

I use 23g x 1" for my glute. That's what my husband is using so I figured I'd just use what I had on hand. He pushes more per injection than me, so a bigger gauge is good for that purpose. Wider/bigger gauge = less resistance & ability to push quicker. Since I'm only pushing .25mL at a time I can definitely afford to go smaller. Sooo going to switch to 25g for extra peace of mind

Smaller gauge = less scar tissue

PS. It catches up to you after hundreds and some thousands needles later!

 

[Eman]

Glad it's not just me. I've got some 5/8 25g on the way and don't plan on using 1" on delts anymore.

5/8 wasn't deep enough for me... Didn't go into the muscle far enough and left welts. Big ones too lol... I was pinning prop on top of that, never did react very well to it.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

5/8 wasn't deep enough for me... Didn't go into the muscle far enough and left welts. Big ones too lol... I was pinning prop on top of that, never did react very well to it.

I was using 27g 1/2" last cruise and it was fine for me for delts. Can't use them properly with a 3cc barrel though and that's why I got the 25g 5/8".

 

[MamaLifts]

You using a 1cc barrel or 3cc? I have no problem pushing through a 27g with a 1cc barrel.

What we have is actually 3mL, not 1, but I have used both. The gauge of the needle is what affects the resistance, though. That along with the viscosity of the liquid.

Smaller gauge = less scar tissue

PS. It catches up to you after hundreds and some thousands needles later!

This is also true. However, when talking 23g vs 25g vs 27g, the scar tissue comparison would be minimal. Regardless, it's always good to rotate sites for those that give more frequent injections. Now if we were talking 14g/16g needles (dialysis pts) that'd be different.. THAT will give you some scar tissue. As always, everyone needs to read up & judge their own bodies accordingly.

Anyway, good luck in your future gauging @Anabolicchocoholic

 

[Masters Power]

I feel a little freaked out even using a 1" on delts sometimes lol... Seems like it'll hit bone or something.

C'mon big man!! A starving child in Africa may hit bone with a 1" on delts. You will not!! I promise.

 

[Eman]

C'mon big man!! A starving child in Africa may hit bone with a 1" on delts. You will not!! I promise.

Lol I know... But.. But... It just looks like it goes so deep.

Probably need a 4" pin to get halfway to the bone in my cannonballs.

 

[Masters Power]

Lol I know... But.. But... It just looks like it goes so deep.

That's what she said!! Terrible joke, I apologize to the OP. I couldn't resist

 

[Perrin Aybara]

What we have is actually 3mL, not 1, but I have used both. The gauge of the needle is what affects the resistance, though. That along with the viscosity of the liquid.

Actually the force required to push the same viscosity liquid through the same gauge needle is much greater with a 3cc compared to a 1cc. Think about that for a second. There's a formula for hydraulic pressure I don't remember well enough to explain, but the amount of force applied by your thumb to the plunger of a 1cc syringe is going to have that force acting on a much smaller area compared to a 3cc syringe, hence the quicker and easier flow through the needle.

 

[Masters Power]

Actually the force required to push the same viscosity liquid through the same gauge needle is much greater with a 3cc compared to a 1cc. Think about that for a second. There's a formula for hydraulic pressure I don't remember well enough to explain, but the amount of force applied by your thumb to the plunger of a 1cc syringe is going to have that force acting on a much smaller area compared to a 3cc syringe, hence the quicker and easier flow through the needle.

This is absolutely true and very easy to prove as well using either a 25g or 27g with the same amount of substance in both a 1cc and a 3cc syringe. More than a small difference.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

This is absolutely true and very easy to prove as well using either a 25g or 27g with the same amount of substance in both a 1cc and a 3cc syringe. More than a small difference.

It becomes very apparent with a 27g.

Sorry, @Anabolicchocoholic for the hijack and physics discussion, lol.

 

[MamaLifts]

It becomes very apparent with a 27g.

Sorry, @Anabolicchocoholic for the hijack and physics discussion, lol.

I can definitely see why it's more apparent with smaller gauges. "Technically" IM injections aren't supposed to given with less than a 25g needle. 27g & smaller is typically used for subqutaneos or intradermal, in which case the 1mL/TB syringe is attached to it... buuut that's in a medical setting. Unfortunately they didn't teach hydraulics details for basic injection administration in nursing school, ha.

 

[johntt44]

I use a 1" 25g on glutes, quads, and delts. My wife pins me sometimes and has a hard time pushing through the 25g. I'm waiting for her to hit it like the bottom of a ketchup bottle.

 

[Gbro]

Not enough pics in this thread.

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

You noticing much from the var yet? I just realized you were only like two weeks in and I was thinking it'd been longer for some reason.

What's the plan on this cycle and the next? Eight weeks on this and a couple months off before trying the primo? It's funny how we already plan the next one before the current one is over. I think we all do it though, i know i do.

I feel as if I could go up to 15 or 20mg but I'm not sure if I should. I know there's a higher risk of virilization, but so far I didn't experience any negative sides *knocks on wood. The main difference I feel is that my muscles feel fuller while I'm not even eating that many carbs, without it I think I would look pretty flat and also my strength goes down very quickly. In this thread so far, strength has been going up a little/maintaining at least. I don't really know if there would be any point to increasing the dose, just cutting anyway. Only other change is a much higher sex drive lol.

I was planning on going for 4-6 weeks then taking half the number of weeks off then starting primo to continue the cut.

I def do the same haha, already researching the bulk cycle. I can't wait!

I'd still say 1.5" for glutes for the ladies and if you do a 1" for delts just don't burry it all the way only go about 5/8th deep then if something happens there is still extra needle to grab onto heaven forbid ya break or bend it (I've done both don't sneeze while injecting it's a bad idea!)

Thank you, I didn't realize 1'' might be too long, I think I'll be okay tho, could just not go all the way if that's the case

I actually use 25g 5/8 but some days I feel brave with 1". Lol... but mostly 5/8"
All depends how much fluff you got! [emoji6] 1" is fine. But glute for most I wouldn't go less than 1 1/4" or 1" if you're lean.

I was curious what your preferred site is? Seems like the glute is pretty popular as well but idk, I've just got so much fat there I feel like I need a 2'' or 3'' needle lol. In videos I've seen you can see the guys' glutes muscles, they're pretty lean. Still a few weeks till I pin, but maybe I should just stick to delt? Thanks

Not enough pics in this thread.

Trying to not spam the thread with memes and belfies lol

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

This is also true. However, when talking 23g vs 25g vs 27g, the scar tissue comparison would be minimal. Regardless, it's always good to rotate sites for those that give more frequent injections. Now if we were talking 14g/16g needles (dialysis pts) that'd be different.. THAT will give you some scar tissue. As always, everyone needs to read up & judge their own bodies accordingly.

Anyway, good luck in your future gauging @Anabolicchocoholic

Thank you

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

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[Anabolicchocoholic]

Day 11 (of new split)
April/13/17
Protein= 170g
10mg var, 10mcgclen
Workout=
UPPER BODY HYPERTROPHY
and 15 min HIIT (this time on the stairmaster)

Notes:

I wish there was something like clen + eph mixed together. I like when I take the ec stack the first 1-2 hours I don't really feel like eating anything. It takes me 30 min just the get the egg whites down. But it wears off pretty quick. It seems like some people are claiming clen has an appetite suppressing effect but I def don't feel it.

I had a dream last night that I was in the gym locker rooms and walked out and all the lights are off and its empty. Basically got locked in and thought I was alone, but then this other guy comes out of the lockers and he was only wearing a towel? Which doesn't make sense bc why would he walk into the workout area wearing that anyway even if he didn't know the gym was closing. So we both got locked in...and you can guess what happens next lol. My actual gym is open 24 hours though, weird.

 

[Iron Vett]

Day 11 (of new split)
April/13/17
Protein= 170g
10mg var, 10mcgclen
Workout=
UPPER BODY HYPERTROPHY
and 15 min HIIT (this time on the stairmaster)

Notes:

I wish there was something like clen + eph mixed together. I like when I take the ec stack the first 1-2 hours I don't really feel like eating anything. It takes me 30 min just the get the egg whites down. But it wears off pretty quick. It seems like some people are claiming clen has an appetite suppressing effect but I def don't feel it.

I had a dream last night that I was in the gym locker rooms and walked out and all the lights are off and its empty. Basically got locked in and thought I was alone, but then this other guy comes out of the lockers and he was only wearing a towel? Which doesn't make sense bc why would he walk into the workout area wearing that anyway even if he didn't know the gym was closing. So we both got locked in...and you can guess what happens next lol. My actual gym is open 24 hours though, weird.

My God........

I really need to see about getting a guest pass to that gym you go too so I can check out that equipment over there