Secret Sources, the SCOC and the Steroid Underground

[MANWHORE]

Wasn't the same guy brewing for herc at the End? I read pms where stretch said he was.

I am not sure..
I can ask Stretch, but we don't talk about stuff like that..
I told him I really never followed the thread, and I didn't really care what happened..

That guy supplies me with my raws..
He is a very good Chinaman, and did them a favor with the brewing..
Now, what happened after the brews arrived in the USA, is a mystery

I like brewing my own gear...
not that I don't trust this guy with sterility,
but really because I don't fuckin trust ANYONE in general..

His job is to supply me with quality raws,
so I can brew my own gear...
I think everyone with the time should learn to brew..

If we all learn to brew, we can talk more
about brewing and less about how sources fucked us..

M

 

[dper726]

It's happened continuously. And the two sources you said made it through the SCOC both crashed and burned. Spetz is attempting a resurrection but that will be short lived.

It's the nature of the business to crash and burn we are all noticing. Look at mike and look at K. Both had been in business easily for ten years until they stepped foot here and faced the mouth of the monster that is meso.

How isn't what we are doing necessarily working?

Labs are going to come and go. Eroids and any other top ranking system is going to welcome labs regardless who they are or they're start up practices. Why not continue what we are doing which protects us to an extent. The only other solution is ban all sale operations from meso. There is no other solution.

 

[brutus79]

It's the nature of the business to crash and burn we are all noticing. Look at mike and look at K. Both had been in business easily for ten years until they stepped foot here and faced the mouth of the monster that is meso.

How isn't what we are doing necessarily working?

Labs are going to come and go. Eroids and any other top ranking system is going to welcome labs regardless who they are or they're start up practices. Why not continue what we are doing which protects us to an extent. The only other solution is ban all sale operations from meso. There is no other solution.

It's what I have always heard @CensoredBoardsSuck say- "the rooster crowed when the sun came up; therefore the rooster made the sun come up". The scoc and our vetting sources did not bring them down- bloods and uncensored discussion did... it would have been the same without the scoc and if they were sourcing elsewhere and simply engaging meso members in discussion.

 

[dper726]

I think we're all getting caught up in describing whether MESO is starting to resemble a source forum or not. That is not the real issue we should be discussing. The real issue is why so many members WANT it to be a source forum.

The MESO Steroid Underground was NOT designed to be a "source forum". Many forums are specifically designed with the intent of being a source forum. MESO was not. This has been emphasized again and agin.

MESO members have been given the opportunity to use this platform to make the forum something so much more than that.

For whatever reasons (and we can only speculate what they are), some members REALLY REALLY want to make it a source forum. It baffles me why so many are intent on doing this.



Thank you @flenser. There some important points that I have not been able to communicate effectively. You have succinctly and clear made this one



Exactly. I would rather the direction of this forum be community-driven with open discussion and debate about issues such as these.

Is a "big brother" approach something the community really wants? Or is the community willing to put in the work to make MESO something special.

No. It's about telling you and other members. It's about dialogue and debate. And deciding what's best for the community.

While baffling, Millard members want to make this a source forum particularly because of the freedom you offer. Members are granted the opportunity to finally posses control on steroid sourcing regulation. Something unseen before.

 

[Raider72]

Yes but Stretch didn't brew it

Gotcha, so you don't get anything from biologic but are familiar with their raw supplier?

 

[MANWHORE]

Gotcha, so you don't get anything from biologic but are familiar with their raw supplier?

I don't know if Bio is still around using Bio,
but I use the same guy they used.. Only I brew my own gear..

He supplies a lot of UGLs with low quality
as well as highest quality.. A lot of UGLs ask for lower quality,
so don't believe the .. O my raw guy fucked me with low quality ... bullshit

The Chinese are still pushing out top quality raws..
Some do fuck people with a lower quality for a higher quality
price, but a lot of that I am sure is starting at the Brewer and not the Chinese..

Once you build a relationship with your source, by
letting them know you are honest and want a long lasting business,
you will be surprised how good they treat you..

People in general want to be good..
If people feel you will fuck them.. whether it's true or not..
they will fuck you first..

Being honest is not enough though.
You have to make it known that not only will you
not fuck them but if they fuck you, They will be giving up
a very solid business relationship that could have made them a shitload of money..

 

[MANWHORE]

It's easy for people to like me, because I
just say what's on my mind and the only things
I really lie about are my:
Penis size.. I always add an inch
and the women I slept with..
I drop it down a few... hundred because women go for that

 

[Raider72]

I don't know if Bio is still around using Bio,
but I use the same guy they used.. Only I brew my own gear..

He supplies a lot of UGLs with low quality
as well as highest quality.. A lot of UGLs ask for lower quality,
so don't believe the .. O my raw guy fucked me with low quality ... bullshit

The Chinese are still pushing out top quality raws..
Some do fuck people with a lower quality for a higher quality
price, but a lot of that I am sure is starting at the Brewer and not the Chinese..

Once you build a relationship with your source, by
letting them know you are honest and want a long lasting business,
you will be surprised how good they treat you..

People in general want to be good..
If people feel you will fuck them.. whether it's true or not..
they will fuck you first..

Being honest is not enough though.
You have to make it known that not only will you
not fuck them but if they fuck you, They will be giving up
a very solid business relationship that could have made them a shitload of money..

Makes sense. Not much different than any import relationship. I am partnered with 2 companies that import hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of product a year and the relationship building process is key to our success in getting high quality as well. Even though it is legal products.
Thanks for the insight

 

[MANWHORE]

We have legal products coming from
South America, as well.. Well, legal in most States for now

 

[Notits]

Having an uncensored bored makes it like a virtual public so to say. When you go out in the real world an get things there are certain precautions taken to ensure safety. When you throw out those precautions and everyone gets sloppy its then known as something like the hood or whatever you wanna call it. This is where all the scams and bad things happen to buyers, everybody is just doing whatever the fuck they want there. Compared to the lil old lady selling a bag out in the rural areas. Now @Millard Baker I dont have the answer but that was just my analogy of what i think is going on, i think you are trying to come up with a solution and its great your are taking advice from others.

You think that "scams and all the bad things happen to buyers" is a problem now???? Go check out a moderated source board.
Protecting people from their own judgment is a huge mistake for more reasons than just the obvious.

 

[xgunx]

You think that "scams and all the bad things happen to buyers" is a problem now???? Go check out a moderated source board.
Protecting people from their own judgment is a huge mistake for more reasons than just the obvious.

I think you have not had your coffee and need to read over my post again. And then come back and explain to me the extent of the brainstorm to make you think i want a moderated source board.

 

[xgunx]

You are obviously barking up the wrong tree here and if anyone else misunderstood my comment i will glady explain.

 

[Burrr]

Since meso is not a SRC board, I think we should offer advice on how to navigate a SRC board. There are plenty of good src's on src boards, you just have to figure out to navigate through a sea of haters, shill's, fanboys and girls, biased mods and admins, fake reviews and fake lab work.
IMO, still far easier than finding your SRC on meso.

 

[Notits]

You are obviously barking up the wrong tree here and if anyone else misunderstood my comment i will glady explain.

Why don't you go ahead and explain

 

[xgunx]

Basically all i fucking said is things have fucking gotten a little fucked up around here lately, and fucking things are fucking safer when things arent fucking fucked up, and i am fucking glad millard is fucking working on it. i also fucking said that i dont have the fucking answer. i like the fucking truth, and i fucking like to be fucking safe, i also fucking like to know my fucking investment, and fucking research are fucking safe. At no fucking point did i say i liked censored fucking boards because then i couldnt fucking say what the fuck i want to say dammit. Got it?

 

[Notits]

Basically all i fucking said is things have fucking gotten a little fucked up around here lately, and fucking things are fucking safer when things arent fucking fucked up, and i am fucking glad millard is fucking working on it. i also fucking said that i dont have the fucking answer. i like the fucking truth, and i fucking like to be fucking safe, i also fucking like to know my fucking investment, and fucking research are fucking safe. At no fucking point did i say i liked censored fucking boards because then i couldnt fucking say what the fuck i want to say dammit. Got it?

Glad you clarified, I though you were just sticking your nose up Milards ass.

 

[xgunx]

Nah lol wonder how many fucks i gave on that one

 

[Big Mike]

While baffling, Millard members want to make this a source forum particularly because of the freedom you offer. Members are granted the opportunity to finally posses control on steroid sourcing regulation. Something unseen before.

I believe its the demand. When the demand increases so too will the suppliers. In more recent years these drugs have become more popular and the market has increased to meet that demand. UG labs are sprouting up everywhere all trying to cash in on this thriving market. The buyer fuels this fire!


Big Mike

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Since meso is not a SRC board, I think we should offer advice on how to navigate a SRC board. There are plenty of good src's on src boards, you just have to figure out to navigate through a sea of haters, shill's, fanboys and girls, biased mods and admins, fake reviews and fake lab work.
IMO, still far easier than finding your SRC on meso.

Good idea Burrr.. ^^

I realize a lot of guys I respect here are against the SCoC but I still believe it's a useful tool.. It's a TOOL not a foolproof plan to stop scamming entirely!! Look at what just happened with Raccoon Labs, that tenacious little punk wouldn't follow it and was run off because we could beat him over the head with it.. He CLAIMS he got 9 customers, how many part time lurkers would he have been able to grab otherwise?

I haven't kept up entirely with these two threads over the past 2 days but I remember someone mentioned not allowing sources to post price lists? At first I thought that was a great idea but then you're just going to have buyers PMing and emailing and still getting sales from here.. Aren't those type of private dealings what sparked all of this in the first place last week?

I'd love to see no sources here but that won't happen so what the hell are we talking about?!

 

[boodecarlo]

Basically all i fucking said is things have fucking gotten a little fucked up around here lately, and fucking things are fucking safer when things arent fucking fucked up, and i am fucking glad millard is fucking working on it. i also fucking said that i dont have the fucking answer. i like the fucking truth, and i fucking like to be fucking safe, i also fucking like to know my fucking investment, and fucking research are fucking safe. At no fucking point did i say i liked censored fucking boards because then i couldnt fucking say what the fuck i want to say dammit. Got it?

This further proves that FUCK can be a person, place, or thing. Lol