Secret Sources, the SCOC and the Steroid Underground

@CensoredBoardsSuck I feel your pain here... why do people want to label it a source board? We do have sources here but that is not the intent. If a pedophile snatches a kid off a playground does that make the playground a pedophile shopping area? If someone shoots someone in the face on a street does that make it a murder only zone? No- I rather think it was misused according to the original intent. Sorry ogh- it ain't a fucking duck and your clambering to label it as such is disquieting to say the least.

I think the sourcing here makes this place a shithole- a black eye. It's like people selling drugs in a state park. EXACTLY LIKE PEOPLE SELLING DRUGS IN A STATE PARK. This forum is endangered in the respect there are no others like it... just because some cocksuckers set up shop here doesn't mean we should let them continue.

Yea cbs- tell astro. Tell that fucking faggot spetz, and gearline- and if they swing we will take care of them... and then I will rub my balls all over their toothless, bloody unconscious faces. Sends shivers up my spine in delicious anticipation.

But I digress. @Oregongearhead I habe heard you say you want sources here for one stop shopping. Ridiculous. If people stop sourcing here there is no heat- but even if you rent your basement to a meth dealer the feds will sieze your whole fucking house- think about it.

I went back and forth with @Millard Baker because that's what I do. You don't completely understand someones point of view until you spar- and I throw in a bit of irritating because I like the subtle notes it lends to conversation.

Stop thinking so fucking small guys. The banners? Jesus fucking Christ- if planned parenthood had a billboard on a highway would that mean people would stand on it fully expecting a consultation and be getting hit by trucks instead of getting abortions on "planned parenthood highway"? Or are people here so stupid they can't understand that advertisements don't define the purpose of they area in which they choose to advertise? I saw an ad for a urologist over a urinal the other day and marveled at the creative marketing technique. Now I'm wondering how many of you dumbasses would be yelling into the toilet trying to schedule an appointment.
 
As long as our board is uncensored, there will always be a salesman, if there is a salesman, there will always be a buyer.

No matter what we do about the source, we can never stop the buyer from buying.


Big Mike
 
Until it is banned, and enforced. Mesorx is and will always be a Source site. Again....

I understand your point of view Brutus with the playground or homicide scene examples. But the solution to those are simply enforcement against the act to begin with. Those that break the rules face the penalty.
 
As long as our board is uncensored, there will always be a salesman, if there is a salesman, there will always be a buyer.

No matter what we do about the source, we can never stop the buyer from buying.


Big Mike

Being an uncensored board doesn't warrant necessarily the right to sell. It only grants us the freedom of speech and it's ultimately up to Millard to decide how far to take that. It could only be the right to exchange information. Which I think would still make meso the superior board because it provides a feature none other do.
 
Until it is banned, and enforced. Mesorx is and will always be a Source site. Again....

I understand your point of view Brutus with the playground or homicide scene examples. But the solution to those are simply enforcement against the act to begin with. Those that break the rules face the penalty.

But who do you propose enforce these rules?

If its not the community, then we are essentially putting our trust in others to determine what we get to see and read. This would require dropping the administrations policy of impartiality and start taking sides when it comes to matters involving sources, and by extension they would be forcing their side onto the members.

It's really up to us to determine if we want to allow sources on here, no one else is going to do that for us. I'm surprised that the general consensus this far seems to be " its already a source board so who gives a fuck " .
 
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I honestly think they all need to hit the road. Astro is semi private anyway and those who continue to buy off spetz after all his bullshit are just going
To get fucked For their money in the end. Gear line new, just kick him out. If guys want to buy off these sources then fine. Leave honest reviews about their experience. If a sources contact info wants to be left by members so be it. But we would be so much better off without all the bullshit. Imagine meso without all the extra drama. No more astro I sent you a pm.( tho I haven't seen it in a while) but you get the point.
 
But who do you propose enforce these rules?

If its not the community, then we are essentially putting our trust in others to determine what we get to see and read. This would require dropping the administrations policy of impartiality and start taking sides when it comes to matters involving sources, and by extension they would be forcing their side onto the members.

It's really up to us to determine if we want to allow sources on here, no one else is going to do that for us. I'm surprised that the general consensus this far seems to be " its already a source board so who gives a fuck " .

I understand your point of view but that wasn't the topic I had into play. I agree with you. We as a community are the best guardians against the perpetrators. As long as the rules allow for sourcing. And as long as Millard allows us to voice our opinions.

But the rules are set by Millard whether to allow sourcing or not. And if he decides against that it's up to him to decide how to enforce such.
 
I honestly think they all need to hit the road. Astro is semi private anyway and those who continue to buy off spetz after all his bullshit are just going
To get fucked For their money in the end. Gear line new, just kick him out. If guys want to buy off these sources then fine. Leave honest reviews about their experience. If a sources contact info wants to be left by members so be it. But we would be so much better off without all the bullshit. Imagine meso without all the extra drama. No more astro I sent you a pm.( tho I haven't seen it in a while) but you get the point.

I think more then ever I agree we should keep all sourcing off meso. And only provide as much reviews about them as we can.

Maybe allow sources a verified account(maybe gold font ect) to have input on the topic that concerns them about they're labs if they wish to dispute claims.
 
@CensoredBoardsSuck I feel your pain here... why do people want to label it a source board? We do have sources here but that is not the intent. If a pedophile snatches a kid off a playground does that make the playground a pedophile shopping area? If someone shoots someone in the face on a street does that make it a murder only zone? No- I rather think it was misused according to the original intent. Sorry ogh- it ain't a fucking duck and your clambering to label it as such is disquieting to say the least.

I think the sourcing here makes this place a shithole- a black eye. It's like people selling drugs in a state park. EXACTLY LIKE PEOPLE SELLING DRUGS IN A STATE PARK. This forum is endangered in the respect there are no others like it... just because some cocksuckers set up shop here doesn't mean we should let them continue.

Yea cbs- tell astro. Tell that fucking faggot spetz, and gearline- and if they swing we will take care of them... and then I will rub my balls all over their toothless, bloody unconscious faces. Sends shivers up my spine in delicious anticipation.

But I digress. @Oregongearhead I habe heard you say you want sources here for one stop shopping. Ridiculous. If people stop sourcing here there is no heat- but even if you rent your basement to a meth dealer the feds will sieze your whole fucking house- think about it.

I went back and forth with @Millard Baker because that's what I do. You don't completely understand someones point of view until you spar- and I throw in a bit of irritating because I like the subtle notes it lends to conversation.

Stop thinking so fucking small guys. The banners? Jesus fucking Christ- if planned parenthood had a billboard on a highway would that mean people would stand on it fully expecting a consultation and be getting hit by trucks instead of getting abortions on "planned parenthood highway"? Or are people here so stupid they can't understand that advertisements don't define the purpose of they area in which they choose to advertise? I saw an ad for a urologist over a urinal the other day and marveled at the creative marketing technique. Now I'm wondering how many of you dumbasses would be yelling into the toilet trying to schedule an appointment.

Excellent post, Brutus. YOU get it. Some ARE thinking small and they're not seeing the big picture. Why is this so hard for some to figure this out? It seems some members refuse or are unable to think beyond there own little world and see that Meso is so much more than sources and gear.
 
But the rules are set by Millard whether to allow sourcing or not. And if he decides against that it's up to him to decide how to enforce such.

I think that is exactly what he is trying to avoid though. A hands off approach to moderation is currently what we have and the community is left to decide what we want to allow or disallow. This model is the most conducive to finding the truth in pretty much any matter.

If Millard started 'enforcing' a rule he made regarding sources, he is no longer taking a hands off approach to moderation. He would be actively directing the narrative you get to see and read, just like every other board out there.

This is going backwards imo and asking administration to make these decisions and enforce them for us is almost like we completely failed to make good use of what we have been given, a completely uncensored platform. That's how I see it anyway.
 
I think that is exactly what he is trying to avoid though. A hands off approach to moderation is currently what we have and the community is left to decide what we want to allow or disallow. This model is the most conducive to finding the truth in pretty much any matter.

If Millard started 'enforcing' a rule he made regarding sources, he is no longer taking a hands off approach to moderation. He would be actively directing the narrative you get to see and read, just like every other board out there.

This is going backwards imo and asking administration to make these decisions and enforce them for us is almost like we completely failed to make good use of what we have been given, a completely uncensored platform. That's how I see it anyway.

I don't think it's a difficult task to enforcing a ban of sourcing on meso publicly. It could be a handful I could agree especially for one guy. Privately is a whole different animal.

The system here works I can agree with you. But it could also be better.
 
So if millard doesn't enforce you guys really think anyone else will be able to officially enforce what's seen and what's not ?? I mean come on be realistic with that issue. On the other note I'm also for no sources coming on here and posting lists and prices and pretty much setting an open invitation for LE to sit around and twiddle there thumbs on each others asses while they note away !! But how will we do this without having someone create moderation ! That's the only way I see it . As long as everything is uncensored there's always gonna be that dumb ass that posts something then right after says " oops I didn't know I couldn't do that ". So how will we do this is real issue here .
 
Astro started a source thread on UGBB too. Their underground section has essentially the same rules as Meso's. But over there Astro failed to gain any traction. Why is that?

I don't think keeping sources from setting up shop here is a matter of enforcement. Maybe this is what Millard was trying to get across in the other thread. The established outspoken members here have been too willing to buy from these sources as a means of checking their products or whatever. If we refuse to buy from sources operating here and discourage others, they won't stay.
 
Astro started a source thread on UGBB too. Their underground section has essentially the same rules as Meso's. But over there Astro failed to gain any traction. Why is that?

I don't think keeping sources from setting up shop here is a matter of enforcement. Maybe this is what Millard was trying to get across in the other thread. The established outspoken members here have been too willing to buy from these sources as a means of checking their products or whatever. If we refuse to buy from sources operating here and discourage others, they won't stay.


Bingo. You hit the nail on the head, Flenser.
 
I encourage all of you to go check out a sponsored board if you have not been a part of one yet. This is not a source forum. They don't have to pay fees, don't have moderators with deleting powers. Bad reviews getting you banned. We know how meso differs from other forums. All Good sources will
Find themselves talked about here and will end up having a rep. Is that good or bad debatable. We are not a source board we all can speak our mind against all sources. Try that anywhere else than call this place a source board. We own this not the sources
 

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