Who is our biggest, most shredded member at Meso?

Yup, thats what makes BB a beauty contest. The best predetermined genetics win the show. Shape and symmetry of the quality of muscle bellies is what makes it what it is. No different than an ugly bitch like Rosie Odonnell vs Adriana Lima. Try as she might Rosie isnt ever touching Adriana. Its predetermined. Same goes for a guy like Shaq at over 7' vs Mark Wahlberg who is a shorty. Try as he might hell never catch Shaq. Its predetermined. These are all examples of genetics and the spectrum on which we all fall in various aspects. Muscle bellies and symmetry is just another example of genes at work

Ahhh, gasp!!!:eek::eek::eek:

Trukk, that is one of the most insensitive posts you have ever made. Imagine how many snowflakes you just melted, err, uh, crushed with that post.

Liberals EVERYWHERE are going to be appalled if they read this! So you are telling me that some people are just not capable of ever winning Mr. Olympia, or Ms. America, no matter how much they wish they could? Say it ain't so!!!

If modern day society has taught me anything, it has taught me that I can have anything I want in life - not by hard work and not by taking advantage of the things I was blessed with outta the womb - but just because it's not fair if I don't get to have whatever I want.

So you take back what you said, you big meanie.
 
Nick makes no excuses for his use of everything he could get his hands on. He's a great example of "no limits" and "at any cost" to achieve the desired result.

The guy put himself in the hospital for days to weeks more than a few times doing stupid shit. He even did some gay for pay shit at one point.

It doesn't matter if it was him or a coach's protocol that nearly killed him. Common sense and some attention to your own survival should kick in unless you're really messed up in the head.
 
Nick makes no excuses for his use of everything he could get his hands on. He's a great example of "no limits" and "at any cost" to achieve the desired result.

The guy put himself in the hospital for days to weeks more than a few times doing stupid shit. He even did some gay for pay shit at one point.

It doesn't matter if it was him or a coach's protocol that nearly killed him. Common sense and some attention to your own survival should kick in unless you're really messed up in the head.
I just remember him competing with some of the worst gyno ive ever seen.
 
dayum brother! just had a moment to look around at some threads for a change :) and you are KILLING IT!
you better not be fckin passing me up ;)
haha, good shit man -- looking SOLID!
Lol thanks @RThoads for the kind words my friend. Haven't been aroun much but ive been killin it in the gym. 2-3times a day....wish i cud do that forever lol but i jus got a new job so imma have to go back to training once a day until i feel comfortable enough to do two day sessions.
 
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Speaking of SEO calves




Lol yeh there is def a risk to synthol, i never claimed it was that safe:) And i'm stupid, cuz i'll still try a little trial run with the stuff, i guess if people are curious I can show how it all worked out after a couple months (if there is interest) ... side note I pinned for first time yesterday and it fuckign kills and really having trouble walking today... almost thinking of stopping already LOL
 
Nick makes no excuses for his use of everything he could get his hands on. He's a great example of "no limits" and "at any cost" to achieve the desired result.

The guy put himself in the hospital for days to weeks more than a few times doing stupid shit. He even did some gay for pay shit at one point.

It doesn't matter if it was him or a coach's protocol that nearly killed him. Common sense and some attention to your own survival should kick in unless you're really messed up in the head.

Agreed, and for a lot of those reasons you mentioned I really enjoy hearing his viewpoints and opinions about competing, training, peds, etc.

Maybe he rubs lots of people the wrong way but i like the dude. I respect he's self aware and also transparent, i think those are pretty good qualities! (Side note i wasnt saying you were hating on him, you were just describing him really)
 
Lol yeh there is def a risk to synthol, i never claimed it was that safe:) And i'm stupid, cuz i'll still try a little trial run with the stuff, i guess if people are curious I can show how it all worked out after a couple months (if there is interest) ... side note I pinned for first time yesterday and it fuckign kills and really having trouble walking today... almost thinking of stopping already LOL

Definitely interested in your experience. Starting a new thread and logging it would be perfect right now, since you're starting fresh with it.
 
Agreed, and for a lot of those reasons you mentioned I really enjoy hearing his viewpoints and opinions about competing, training, peds, etc.

Maybe he rubs lots of people the wrong way but i like the dude. I respect he's self aware and also transparent, i think those are pretty good qualities! (Side note i wasnt saying you were hating on him, you were just describing him really)

I don't dislike him either and I'm certainly not hating on the guy. I watched his stuff pretty regular when he first started his channel. He was totally open about all of his past good and bad. I appreciate him putting it out there to educate the younger crowd and let them know it's not the way to do it.

I just think his past approach is an example of what is wrong with bodybuilding at this point and time. Way too much reliance and abuse of PEDS and the willingness to literally risk your life to win a show that no one will care about in a month. He really did almost die twice after shows. There is a line between "use" and "abuse" and his approach was abuse imo. I've been to that line myself a few times but didn't cross it so I get it.

I've got a buddy that used him last year for coaching in 2 National shows. Just missed his pro card in both but neither miss was Nick's doing. He just got beat by better built guys. I'd consider his services myself if I was making a run at that level.
 
I don't dislike him either and I'm certainly not hating on the guy. I watched his stuff pretty regular when he first started his channel. He was totally open about all of his past good and bad. I appreciate him putting it out there to educate the younger crowd and let them know it's not the way to do it.

I just think his past approach is an example of what is wrong with bodybuilding at this point and time. Way too much reliance and abuse of PEDS and the willingness to literally risk your life to win a show that no one will care about in a month. He really did almost die twice after shows. There is a line between "use" and "abuse" and his approach was abuse imo. I've been to that line myself a few times but didn't cross it so I get it.

I've got a buddy that used him last year for coaching in 2 National shows. Just missed his pro card in both but neither miss was Nick's doing. He just got beat by better built guys. I'd consider his services myself if I was making a run at that level.
Personally I wouldn’t want the attention he brings. But I do think he’s capable.
 
Personally I wouldn’t want the attention he brings. But I do think he’s capable.
He wouldn't be my first choice for sure but I've seen the product of his process first hand and his cost was reasonable.

He was also at both shows for on-site changes/assessments leading up to stage time but he also had several competitors in both also so that wouldn't be expected every time but it was a great experience for my buddy.
 
Definitely interested in your experience. Starting a new thread and logging it would be perfect right now, since you're starting fresh with it.

im way too lazy to start a thread but i'll post i guess before and after pics and talk about it when im done... also it hurts so much just after one day on pinning... really making me reconsider lol
 
Rounding the corner on the show gear kicking in (we’re 4-5 weeks in on test/eq/slin with gh being in for 6mos now, no tricks or giant stack yet), my leanness making me appear more round, and waist shrinking.
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Before anyone asks the bump is from backsquats; one of my vertabrae lines up perfectly with where the bar sits nicely on my traps.
 
Rounding the corner on the show gear kicking in (we’re 4-5 weeks in on test/eq/slin with gh being in for 6mos now, no tricks or giant stack yet), my leanness making me appear more round, and waist shrinking.
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Before anyone asks the bump is from backsquats; one of my vertabrae lines up perfectly with where the bar sits nicely on my traps.

Got dayyum Mac11, brav-fucking-o!!!

Impressive brother, impressive.
 
Rounding the corner on the show gear kicking in (we’re 4-5 weeks in on test/eq/slin with gh being in for 6mos now, no tricks or giant stack yet), my leanness making me appear more round, and waist shrinking.
View attachment 108267
Before anyone asks the bump is from backsquats; one of my vertabrae lines up perfectly with where the bar sits nicely on my traps.

I like the progress. I'm very interested to see if you (and your coach) can hold the full, round, thick look you've got when you get down to show shape. That seems to be the dividing factor at the top. Being able to be peeled, dry and maintain a version of the look you have right now.

How about a rear double bi shot in the future? Your back is one of your best body parts. I'd like to see it in that pose also.
 
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