mchammertime
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not a fan of Var, reward is not high enough
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Poor responder myself. Doesn't do shit but fuck up my lipids.Not a fan. My face puffs up on var and I get mad heartburn. The gains dont seem very permanent either
Might aswell do superdrol instead, although those gains wont be very permanent either
Winstrol is a good alternative.not a fan of Var, reward is not high enough
I’ve never heard any complaints except that it’s not real. I very interested in trying it some day.@Bill Roberts: "Anavar has often been called a weak steroid. Part of the reason for this is that use of a Class I steroid alone never is maximally effective. The other cause is that bodybuilders and authors in the field sometimes make unfortunate and unreasonable comparisons when judging anabolic steroids." […]
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Any suggestions on how to minimize the impact on lipids? Lots of fish oil? ???Wow. That's a huge change!
There was major study that examined anavar as a weight loss treatment in hiv that is cited for oxandrolone's effects on lipoproteins. it observed decreases / increases in HDL / LDL in the 30-50% range:
20mg daily for 12 weeks
HDL decreased 30%
LDL increased 15%
40mg daily for 12 weeks
HDL decreased 33%
LDL increased 27%
80mg daily for 12 weeks
HDL decreased 50%
LDL increased 31%
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Grunfeld C, Kotler DP, Dobs A, Glesby M, Bhasin S. Oxandrolone in the treatment of HIV-associated weight loss in men: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr. 2006 Mar;41(3):304-14. doi: 10.1097/01.qai.0000197546.56131.40. PMID: 16540931.
Abstract
Objective: To evaluate the efficacy and safety of oxandrolone in promoting body weight and body cell mass (BCM) gain in HIV-associated weight loss.
Methods: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. Two hundred sixty-two HIV-infected men with documented 10% to 20% weight loss or body mass index < or =20 kg/m were randomized to placebo or to 20, 40, or 80 mg of oxandrolone daily. After 12 weeks, subjects were allowed to receive open-label oxandrolone at a dose of 20 mg for another 12 weeks.
Results: Body weight increased in all groups, including the group receiving placebo, during the double-blind phase (1.1 +/- 2.7, 1.8 +/- 3.9, 2.8 +/- 3.3, and 2.3 +/- 2.9 kg in placebo and 20-, 40-, and 80-mg oxandrolone groups, respectively; all P < 0.014 vs. baseline). BCM increased from baseline in all groups (0.45 +/- 1.7, 0.91 +/- 2.2, 1.5 +/- 2.5, and 1.8 +/- 1.8 kg in placebo and 20-, 40-, and 80-mg oxandrolone groups, respectively). At 12 weeks, only the gain in weight at the 40-mg dose of oxandrolone and the gain in BCM at the 40- and 80-mg doses of oxandrolone were greater than those in the placebo group, however. Oxandrolone treatment was associated with significant suppression of sex hormone-binding globulin, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and total and free testosterone levels. Treatment was generally well tolerated but accompanied by significant increases in transaminases and low-density lipoprotein as well as decreases in high-density lipoprotein.
Conclusion: Oxandrolone administration is effective in promoting dose-dependent gains in body weight and BCM in HIV-infected men with weight loss.
Fish oil, strict diet, cardioAny suggestions on how to minimize the impact on lipids? Lots of fish oil? ???
100mg of anavar is intense, can't imagine running that amount of stanozolol...My go to. Anavar and Winny. Run it at about 100 mg a day
I run the Winny at 50100mg of anavar is intense, can't imagine running that amount of stanozolol...
Ya pump was great don’t run much anymore. Just trt and winny and Anavar once a year or so. This was when I was running lots of gear. I’ve toned it down a lot. My days of high amounts are over. The last pic is now just on trtThe pumps on 40mg of anavar are intense and debilitating at times. Can’t imagine 75-100
Looking sick dude, I think on trt you look insanely shredded, but at the same time healthier and a bit more realistic. In the first pic you look total monster. Anyways insane work, respect.Ya pump was great don’t run much anymore. Just trt and winny and Anavar once a year or so. This was when I was running lots of gear. I’ve toned it down a lot. My days of high amounts are over. The last pic is now just on trt View attachment 264461View attachment 264462View attachment 264463
and reduce the dose of the aas too, if with this all things the ldl are always elevated ;-)Fish oil, strict diet, cardio
I think i have a heart attack with 100mg Winstrol daily lol100mg of anavar is intense, can't imagine running that amount of stanozolol...