Anyone else never use pre workout?

saying that TNE is placebo
Never said that. My comment was that injecting water based Test no ester and thinking it has PK profile that a supports PWO formula is false. Hence if you had injected test suspension and thought it kicked in 1 or 2 hours that would be placebo.

TNE is the same thing as test Prop

Water based Test suspension behaves very similar to Test Prop. Unsure why you are tripling down that TNE denotes oil based solution.

It seems like you lack actual experience with these compounds, you just parrot and paraphrase what you've read elsewhere

Sure. Tell yourself that.

No point in me arguing with some autistic dude that has the social awareness of an actual potato.

I thought you could do better than that. Disappointed.

Finally, for those wanting a testosterone pre-workout there are so many better ways to do this than loading up oil with additional excipients....

All of these have tmax under 1 hour and elimination half life of hour or less:

1. Test cream to anus (Rx)
2. Buccal troche (Rx) or TNE suspension/raw administered buccal (later would be hard to meter properly)
3. Nasal gel (Rx)

DMSO transdermal will be a little slower I would venture [skin acts like a reservoir in the less vascular spots (arm/shoulder)]

The trick is to apply the testosterone (stabilized in suitable delivery system) to very vascular region where the testosterone can quickly reach the bloodstream.

For those that want more info:

Buccal example:
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@readalot @Sector come on now, just as I was discussing with someone about quality people joining us on Meso getting better and better (which is very true). Now it's very strange to see you arguing about not so much relevant matter. We should move on from this.

Both of you have have some interesting insights (and I'm not talking about some tne...) in general I like reading your comments. Also you have good communication skills and IQ, let's not ruin the standards you set. Instead let's have a beer or any other drink and end this. Besides you seemed to agree before, so don't hold no grudges.
 
@readalot @Sector come on now, just as I was discussing with someone about quality people joining us on Meso getting better and better (which is very true). Now it's very strange to see you arguing about not so much relevant matter. We should move on from this.

Both of you have have some interesting insights (and I'm not talking about some tne...) in general I like reading your comments. Also you have good communication skills and IQ, let's not ruin the standards you set. Instead let's have a beer or any other drink and end this. Besides you seemed to agree before, so don't hold no grudges.

Hey no worries. 8 dislikes and calling me names, I'll live. Hold no grudges at all but do want folks to get the correct info. Cheers. Happily buy you the beverage of your choice if I could.

PS: only 1 more rep to 100 dislikes. That's gotta be some kind of plastic trophy !
 
Hey no worries. 8 dislikes and calling me names, I'll live. Hold no grudges at all but do want folks to get the correct info. Cheers. Happily buy you the beverage of your choice if I could.

PS: only 1 more rep to 100 dislikes. That's gotta be some kind of plastic trophy !
want me to be your 100th dislike? :D
 
Never said that. My comment was that injecting water based Test no ester and thinking it has PK profile that a supports PWO formula is false. Hence if you had injected test suspension and thought it kicked in 1 or 2 hours that would be placebo.



Water based Test suspension behaves very similar to Test Prop. Unsure why you are tripling down that TNE denotes oil based solution.



Sure. Tell yourself that.



I thought you could do better than that. Disappointed.

Finally, for those wanting a testosterone pre-workout there are so many better ways to do this than loading up oil with additional excipients....

All of these have tmax under 1 hour and elimination half life of hour or less:

1. Test cream to anus (Rx)
2. Buccal troche (Rx) or TNE suspension/raw administered buccal (later would be hard to meter properly)
3. Nasal gel (Rx)

DMSO transdermal will be a little slower I would venture [skin acts like a reservoir in the less vascular spots (arm/shoulder)]

The trick is to apply the testosterone (stabilized in suitable delivery system) to very vascular region where the testosterone can quickly reach the bloodstream.

For those that want more info:

Buccal example:
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Word but who is shoving test cream up they ass?
 
@readalot @Sector come on now, just as I was discussing with someone about quality people joining us on Meso getting better and better (which is very true). Now it's very strange to see you arguing about not so much relevant matter. We should move on from this.

Both of you have have some interesting insights (and I'm not talking about some tne...) in general I like reading your comments. Also you have good communication skills and IQ, let's not ruin the standards you set. Instead let's have a beer or any other drink and end this. Besides you seemed to agree before, so don't hold no grudges.
I would agree here jokes aside this is a dumb argument ahah to each their own this stuff is pretty subjective as is
 
Not up the ass. I said anus, not rectum (but that could work as well). You would rub on the anus. Very effective admin site for rapid tmax.View attachment 278869
I know what u meant mane I was just being a douche ahah it’s common in the drug scene where ppl boof stuff n instead of doing IV they just do a drug colonic, I always found that shit disgusting to even think bout (a gyal I fked would shove molly in her pussy n idek how she ain’t got chemical burns down there)
 
The trick is to apply the testosterone (stabilized in suitable delivery system) to very vascular region where the testosterone can quickly reach the bloodstream.

For example?

Your nut sack on a hot summer day? Armpits? Neck?

What is practical for preworkout considerations
 
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