How many times do you pin the deca and test a week?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Daily Log to 2019 Show Season
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@jJjburton I pin everything EOD.
Another big absence from Meso; sorry boys. Ready to close out this piece of shit year.
called my offseason off a few weeks ago. Head wasn’t right, insulin resistance had crept in (I appear to be hyper sensitive to that side effect of gH), BP slightly elevated, was time for a break. Not trying to be a diabetic with chronic health issues at 35.
went 4 weeks without a pin while trying to focus on health: stayed on my supps, fixed some gaps, added a little cardio, cut carbs down. BP is down to 120/70. Fasted glucose is down but I’m learning my meter is way too inaccurate so planning a glucose/a1c test here soon just to solidify where I am.
on a “bridge” now of 250 test, 150 deca; kept deca in to try and help make sure I didn’t lose muscle while I cut everything including food back to help with the insulin resistance. Seems to be working fine for now.
Will lay out my plan to “catch up” here soon. Just waiting on some nice fasted bg numbers.
Another big absence from Meso; sorry boys. Ready to close out this piece of shit year.
called my offseason off a few weeks ago. Head wasn’t right, insulin resistance had crept in (I appear to be hyper sensitive to that side effect of gH), BP slightly elevated, was time for a break. Not trying to be a diabetic with chronic health issues at 35.
went 4 weeks without a pin while trying to focus on health: stayed on my supps, fixed some gaps, added a little cardio, cut carbs down. BP is down to 120/70. Fasted glucose is down but I’m learning my meter is way too inaccurate so planning a glucose/a1c test here soon just to solidify where I am.
on a “bridge” now of 250 test, 150 deca; kept deca in to try and help make sure I didn’t lose muscle while I cut everything including food back to help with the insulin resistance. Seems to be working fine for now.
Will lay out my plan to “catch up” here soon. Just waiting on some nice fasted bg numbers.
Here’s my “plan” for getting back on track. Critique and comments welcome.
10 Week Catch-up
Food starts at 3500ish, ~450/250/100, add 50-75g of carbs a week unless I pack on fat
Bridge stays in:
250 test Cyp
150 deca
Weeks 1-4
TPP/NPP at 600/600
Novolog matched to preworkout carbs on training days only (3 on 1 off, max 5 a week)
gH at 2-4iu (open to protocols and timing here, either 2-3iu 3 on 1 off or the weekly dose (14-21) split into large doses 3-4x a week)
Weeks 5-6
TPP/NPP at 600/600
(May add 150 prop to get to 1000mg test)
Tren Ace at 350
No slin, gH at 2iu-4iu
Weeks 7-10
TPP/NPP at 600/600
(May add 150 prop to get to 1000mg test)
Tren Ace at 350
Oral (anadrol or inj sdrol) tapered up
Lantus at 30iu/day
Novo matched to preworkout carbs
gH like weeks 1-4
Supps:
Berberine
Curcumin
NAC
OT+Greens
Vit D3
Flax Oil
CoQ10
Astragalus
10 Week Catch-up
Food starts at 3500ish, ~450/250/100, add 50-75g of carbs a week unless I pack on fat
Bridge stays in:
250 test Cyp
150 deca
Weeks 1-4
TPP/NPP at 600/600
Novolog matched to preworkout carbs on training days only (3 on 1 off, max 5 a week)
gH at 2-4iu (open to protocols and timing here, either 2-3iu 3 on 1 off or the weekly dose (14-21) split into large doses 3-4x a week)
Weeks 5-6
TPP/NPP at 600/600
(May add 150 prop to get to 1000mg test)
Tren Ace at 350
No slin, gH at 2iu-4iu
Weeks 7-10
TPP/NPP at 600/600
(May add 150 prop to get to 1000mg test)
Tren Ace at 350
Oral (anadrol or inj sdrol) tapered up
Lantus at 30iu/day
Novo matched to preworkout carbs
gH like weeks 1-4
Supps:
Berberine
Curcumin
NAC
OT+Greens
Vit D3
Flax Oil
CoQ10
Astragalus
Jankauskas
Member
I take it that the reason for the short esters is the catching up, right?
Yes, I don’t want to schedule another 16-20 if I don’t have to. Also do want the short esters/cycle experience.
Body comp is gonna be nice to start this blast.
TheH0517
Well-known Member
Do you have a set date to blast off? Or are you just feeling it out and seeing how things progress? I’m looking forward to following again this year especially since it’s along the same timeline as me so just curious.
TideGear
Well-known Member
Those delts though.. I've never had shoulders anything like that
I’m hoping everything’s set to go for early Feb. I have a FL trip with my wife and son next week. Then a week to settle back in. Then hopefully go. Waiting on the last bits of stuff to come in as well.
TheH0517
Well-known Member
Awesome, lookin forward to it
Long absence again 
My TPP/NPP plans went to shit when the gear I bought legit ate me alive. 10days since my last pin and I just started being able to walk up the stairs without a straight leg or using my hip to compensate. Wasted a vial trying to see if I’d adjust but didn’t; ~2 weeks or so but NBD.
so it’s back to the slow and steady road;test cyp and deca.
Cycle is roughly as follows:
850 test cyp
600 deca
250 mast
for those that follow that’s 100mg test, 100mg deca, + 250 mast more than my last offseason. Mast is in there to cover the test/DHT/19-nor triangle; see how that feels.
Current cals are something like 4700 at 425/450/130.
My TPP/NPP plans went to shit when the gear I bought legit ate me alive. 10days since my last pin and I just started being able to walk up the stairs without a straight leg or using my hip to compensate. Wasted a vial trying to see if I’d adjust but didn’t; ~2 weeks or so but NBD.
so it’s back to the slow and steady road;test cyp and deca.
Cycle is roughly as follows:
850 test cyp
600 deca
250 mast
for those that follow that’s 100mg test, 100mg deca, + 250 mast more than my last offseason. Mast is in there to cover the test/DHT/19-nor triangle; see how that feels.
Current cals are something like 4700 at 425/450/130.
Oldschool
Member
Go get you some Big Mac. Glad to see you posting. Thinking you will like the addition of the mast. Best of luck to you.
Logan44551
Elite
Who's gear was it?Long absence again
My TPP/NPP plans went to shit when the gear I bought legit ate me alive. 10days since my last pin and I just started being able to walk up the stairs without a straight leg or using my hip to compensate. Wasted a vial trying to see if I’d adjust but didn’t; ~2 weeks or so but NBD.
so it’s back to the slow and steady road;test cyp and deca.
Cycle is roughly as follows:
850 test cyp
600 deca
250 mast
for those that follow that’s 100mg test, 100mg deca, + 250 mast more than my last offseason. Mast is in there to cover the test/DHT/19-nor triangle; see how that feels.
Current cals are something like 4700 at 425/450/130.
Misriah. Don’t take it as a knock against him just from my experience. I have always been sensitive to the recipe used for gear. About 1 pin every 1-2 months goes south. This just happened to be a truly incompatible recipe.
Allergic to the particular carrier maybe? In my case I am truly allergic to Mig840 as I get something akin to an infection with that carrier.
Believe it was benzyl salicylate used alongside BA/BB but possibly palm based MCT.
Yes that could cause it as well especially if there's too much of it added.
Following. Glad to see you back!
If you plan to use 2-4iu HGH ed and Insulin just give a try to a couple of simple protocols, that worked well for me:
-First thing am, shoot whole dose of HGH and Lantus. With Lantus start at 1iu/20g carbs and check fasted blood glucose ed, when under 85-90 you are ok.
Once a week plan a cheat meal, let's say on Sunday, you don't shoot anything just use 500mg metformin before bed. Stayed on that protocol for 6 months without seeing my hba1c moving.
If you need to resensitize to insulin, just reduce carbs in half, no HGH no insulin, before bed take 500-1g Metformin, all that just for 2 weeks.
-Ah last protocol I found working good too was, whole HGH dose postwo with 5-10iu HumalinR or Humalog, dose is dependent from how many carbs you eat postwo.
If this won't work with you because glucose stays too high then just send me a PM, I have another protocol that worked very good, but depends on how your day goes.
-First thing am, shoot whole dose of HGH and Lantus. With Lantus start at 1iu/20g carbs and check fasted blood glucose ed, when under 85-90 you are ok.
Once a week plan a cheat meal, let's say on Sunday, you don't shoot anything just use 500mg metformin before bed. Stayed on that protocol for 6 months without seeing my hba1c moving.
If you need to resensitize to insulin, just reduce carbs in half, no HGH no insulin, before bed take 500-1g Metformin, all that just for 2 weeks.
-Ah last protocol I found working good too was, whole HGH dose postwo with 5-10iu HumalinR or Humalog, dose is dependent from how many carbs you eat postwo.
If this won't work with you because glucose stays too high then just send me a PM, I have another protocol that worked very good, but depends on how your day goes.
Update photo. As soon as my leg is normal again legs are fully in this offseason vs no leg training last time. Like where I’m at proportionally.
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