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[Logan44551]

Ok so the one I did where the water just hit the GH so fast. It’s still good?

Yes

 

[138casanova]

Ok so the one I did where the water just hit the GH so fast. It’s still good?

Yup.

 

[Sdryx]

You can inject 1ML of air into the vial first to break that seal.

I hold the vial upside down and slowly inject bac water into it by letting the plunger slide through my fingers carefully.

 

[muscletrain]

Ok so the one I did where the water just hit the GH so fast. It’s still good?

the whole "don't inject directly on the puck" and how sensitive the GH is totally overblown. I believe @janoshik did tests where shook the shit out of the GH and I believe a "leave it out of the fridge after reconstituting it" test. If my memory serves me correctly only the leaving it out after reconstituting with bac water had any noticeable effect on potency.

 

[138casanova]

I hold the vial upside down and slowly inject bac water into it by letting the plunger slide through my fingers carefully.

Whatever works

 

[mands]

I never said it's wasting it. Any exogenous HGH that puts your level higher than normal is a plus. It's what is optimal. Just like eating protein followingly, a workout is better than waiting 3 hours does not mean the protein is a waste. Doing resistance training first while your muscles are full of glycogen, fresh, and strong rather than doing an hour of cardio first which will deplete your strength and energy is optimal but doesn't mean the resistance training was a waste.

You are suppressed from producing endogenous GH for around 24 hours. Although you do have some around that 20-24 hour mark. You are severely suppressed for about 6 to 18 hours.

If you are dosing in the morning I would suggest dosing before bed as well.

mands

 

[mtt]

You are suppressed from producing endogenous GH for around 24 hours. Although you do have some around that 20-24 hour mark. You are severely suppressed for about 6 to 18 hours.

If you are dosing in the morning I would suggest dosing before bed as well.

mands

No disrespect intended but do you happen to have any link or studies that show this suppression? I was once on 5 ius/day of GH and had to do an insulin sensitivity test. I got a new doctor for TRT who was an endocrinologist and does that test for his patients wanting to go on TRT. They inject you with insulin and judge your response and then inject you with Dextrose to bring you back to normal. They do this several times. What I did notice on the chart was the inverse relationship between blood sugar and HGH. I always thought that it was insulin and GH that opposed each other with insulin taking priority. When insulin in the system went up GH would go down. This was not the case. It was blood sugar. So as my glucose levels went down my GH levels shot up, way up, and when I would start to black out, they would inject me with dextrose and raised my blood sugar which caused my GH production to go down.

So regardless of the fact that I had taken GH that morning (7 am), it didn't affect my body from producing its own GH (the test was done at 11 am). There are other activities that stimulate GH such as high-intensity physical exertion. It's hard to believe that your own production just shuts off for almost a day being that it's comes in pulses. Same with thyroid. People think your thyroid shuts off when you take 25 mcg of t3. Even at 75 mcg/day my TSH was still active.

 

[138casanova]

No disrespect intended but do you happen to have any link or studies that show this suppression? I was once on 5 ius/day of GH and had to do an insulin sensitivity test. I got a new doctor for TRT who was an endocrinologist and does that test for his patients wanting to go on TRT. They inject you with insulin and judge your response and then inject you with Dextrose to bring you back to normal. They do this several times. What I did notice on the chart was the inverse relationship between blood sugar and HGH. I always thought that it was insulin and GH that opposed each other with insulin taking priority. When insulin in the system went up GH would go down. This was not the case. It was blood sugar. So as my glucose levels went down my GH levels shot up, way up, and when I would start to black out, they would inject me with dextrose and raised my blood sugar which caused my GH production to go down.

So regardless of the fact that I had taken GH that morning (7 am), it didn't affect my body from producing its own GH (the test was done at 11 am). There are other activities that stimulate GH such as high-intensity physical exertion. It's hard to believe that your own production just shuts off for almost a day being that it's comes in pulses. Same with thyroid. People think your thyroid shuts off when you take 25 mcg of t3. Even at 75 mcg/day my TSH was still active.

I remembered reading this study awhile ago:

Exogenous growth hormone inhibits growth hormone-releasing factor-induced growth hormone secretion in normal men.

Previous studies from this laboratory and by others in rats, monkeys, and humans support the concept that growth hormone (GH) can regulate its own secretion through an autofeedback mechanism. With the availability of human growth hormone-releasing factor ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[ForeverSmall]

I just found two kits in the fridge from like 2 years ago. They still good? Lol

 

[138casanova]

I just found two kits in the fridge from like 2 years ago. They still good? Lol

Probably fine. I'd run it.

 

[Myrongainesworth]

I just found two kits in the fridge from like 2 years ago. They still good? Lol

Nope. At this point not only are they no good but they're also hazardous waste. Ship them to me for safe disposal.

 

[John86]

Qingdao SIgma Chemical can provide HGH from USA Domestic

 

[TheDogSoldier]

I remembered reading this study awhile ago:

Exogenous growth hormone inhibits growth hormone-releasing factor-induced growth hormone secretion in normal men.

Previous studies from this laboratory and by others in rats, monkeys, and humans support the concept that growth hormone (GH) can regulate its own secretion through an autofeedback mechanism. With the availability of human growth hormone-releasing factor ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This does show 24 hour suppression

 

[Alphalfa]

Qingdao SIgma Chemical can provide HGH from USA Domestic

Guys, report this fake account impersonating a random member when he is a rep of Qingdao, spamming their business not only on their thread but in other UGL source thread.

 

[TheDogSoldier]

We have been talking about how endogenous GH can be suppressed by supplementation with exo GH, but what about the receptivity of musculoskeletal tissues? Do the tissues perhaps desensitize in the presence of supra physiological levels? I read recently in some post (lost it already sorry) that Dorian Yates used every other day dosing, based on his experimentation. Is that true and if so, could there be something to the idea of letting the tissues desensitize between doses?

 

[BigRed91]

Yall don't use a vent needle when adding bac water to ur hgh? Is this a bad practice to do? I do my hgh and mt2 this way

 

[Whopperflopper]

I mix 5 iu Ba and 2.8 cc water into vial. Vacuum sucks it right down. 20 cc = 1iu so I take 30 cc am,pm for a total of 3 iu.

 

[mtt]

I remembered reading this study awhile ago:

Exogenous growth hormone inhibits growth hormone-releasing factor-induced growth hormone secretion in normal men.

Previous studies from this laboratory and by others in rats, monkeys, and humans support the concept that growth hormone (GH) can regulate its own secretion through an autofeedback mechanism. With the availability of human growth hormone-releasing factor ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

TT

Thank you for linking this.

 

[mtt]

I mix 5 iu Ba and 2.8 cc water into vial. Vacuum sucks it right down. 20 cc = 1iu so I take 30 cc am,pm for a total of 3 iu.

An entire insulin syringe holds 1 cc or 1 ml. Using 20 full syringes of water to constitute 1 iu of GH seems a bit much.

 

[jackmeoff1]

What's the difference of effect between morning and evening?

I’ve never taken it in the evening. Endogenous hgh production pulses when you fast (over night) so I always felt like taking exogenous gh at that time wouldn’t make sense.